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[P4AU] Yosuke Hanamura Combo Thread

Wed, 27 Aug 2014 21:51:11 +0000

Information

If you'd like to contribute, please feel free to do so! Just post the combos you created, but please write them properly. If you are unsure on how to write combos properly, then read the wiki page here. Make sure to read the Notation Used section in this post so that you understand the specific notations used for Yosuke. Also refrain from using move names and abbreviations.
Please refrain from going off topic in this thread. This thread is for posting of combos only.
Only the most optimal combos will be listed in this thread.

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Challenge Mode Combos

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Mission #01
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Mission #30

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luO4c4qqbnI&index=1&list=PL5rnHuBLVzfdFxDm8QlKukplRffFWOXcY

- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87MSoS-QfZ4&index=2&list=PL5rnHuBLVzfdFxDm8QlKukplRffFWOXcY

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Notes

About air special input options:
In P4U2 Yosuke is now allowed to preform 2 air specials with the inputs 6 or 4 A/B (Moonsault) and 6 or 4 C/D (V Slash). These inputs can only be used when they can be cancelled into.

Example: 6A~B is Air 236A~B or A Moonsault into B Crescent Slash.

Don't forget 236B side switches!

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Sukukaja Combos

Shadow Mode Combos

Mid-screen

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Normal Starters

-5A > 5AA > 5AAA > j2A [1048 DMG]

-5A > 5AA > 5B > 2AB > 236B > j2A [1076 DMG]

-5A > 5AA > 5AAA > 6C > j2C [1519 DMG/23%]

-5A > 5C > 2C > 236B > 4C > j2C [1890 DMG/15%]

-5A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236B > j4C > j2C [2030 DMG]

-5A > 5AA > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236B > 4C > j2C [2133 DMG/17%]

-5A > 5C > 2C > 236A > 6AB > 6A~B > 4D > dlj2C [2888 DMG]

-5A > 5C > 2C > 236AB > 6B~B > 4B~B > 6C > dlj2C [2921 DMG]

-5A > 5C > 2C > 236B > 4C > j2C > 214214C > 5AAAAA > 214214C [3552 DMG/26%][-50%]

-5A > 5AA > 5C > 2C > 236A > j236AB > 6A~B > 4D > 6B~B > j236236D [3845 DMG] [-75%]

-5A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236A > 6AB > 6A~B > 4D > 6B~B > 236236D [3877 DMG]

-Dash 5A > 5C > 2C > 236AB > 6D > 4B~B x3 > 236236D [3965 DMG]

-5A > 5B > 5C > 236AB > j236D > j2C > 214214C > 5AAAAA > j2C > 214214D [4184 DMG]

-5A > 5AA > 5B > 5C > 236B > 236269D > OMB > 5C > 214214C > (214214C [4314 DMG]) or (214214CD [5170 DMG])

-5A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236B > 4C > j2C > 214214D (Move towards corner) > OMB > 5C > 214214C > 2C > 214214CD [4506 DMG]

-Dash 5A > 5C > 2C > 236AB > 6D > dlj2C > 214214C > 5AAAAAA > 236B~B > 4D > 6B~B > 214214D [4642 DMG]

-5A > 5AA > 5C > 236AB > j.236D > j.2C > 214214C > 2C > 5AAAAA > j.236B~B > j.236D >j.236B~B > 214214D [4663 DMG]

-CH 5B > Dash 5A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 236B > 4C > j2C [2346 DMG]

-CH 5B > Dash 5A > 5C > 2C > 236A > 6AB > 6A~B > 4D > dlj2C [3196 DMG]

-CH 5B > Dash 5A > 5C > 2C > 236AB > 6B~B > 4B~B > 6C > dlj2C [3229 DMG]

-2A > 5B > 5C > 236B > j236C > j2C [1476 DMG/13%]

-2B > jc > jBB > jAB > jc > jB > j236C > j2C [1834 DMG]

-2B > jc > jB > jAB > jc > jB > jAB > j236AB > 6B~B > 4D > dlj2C [2879 DMG]

-Air CH jC > 2B > 2C > jc > jB > jAB > jc > jB > jAB > 236C > j2C [2320 DMG]

-jC > Dash 5A > 5C > 2C > 236AB > 6B~B > 4B~B > 6C > dlj2C [3161 DMG]

-FC 2C > 66 > 5C > 2C > 2AB > 236C > 4D > j.2C > 2A > 2C > 2B > j.BB > j.AB > j.B > 236C > j.2C [4500~ DMG]

-2C > 236B > 236236D > OMB > 214214C > 214214CD [6325 DMG]

-FC 2C > 236236C > OMB > TK j236D > dlj2C > 2A > 236B > 6D > dlj2C > 214214C > 236AB > 6D > 4B~B x4 > 214214CD [9150 DMG]

-5AAAAA > 236B~B > 4D > 214214C [3131 DMG]

-5AAAAA > 236B~B x 4 > 214214D [3387 DMG]

-5A > 5B > 5C > 236A or B > ACD (Shadow Burst) > AoA (no followup) > 236D > 236236AB > OMC Around hit 30 > J2C > 236AB > 6D > J2D > 214214C > 2C > 5AAAAA > 236B > 6D > 6B > 214214D [5500~ DMG]

Skill Starter

-FC j2C > 2C > dl236B > 6D > dlj2C > 2A > 2B > jc > jAB > 4D > 6A~A > 4B~B > 6D > dlj2C [4560 DMG]
-FC j2C > 5C > 236B > 4D > 6B~B x3 > 236236C [4716 DMG] [-50%]

-FC j2C > 214214C > TK j2C > 236B > 4D > 6B~B x3 > 214214D [5287 DMG]

-FC j.2C > 5B > 236B > 4D > j.2C > 2A > 2C > j.AB > j.236B~A > j.236B~B > j.236D > j.236B~B > 236236D [5486 DMG] [-50%]

-j2C > 214214C > 236236C > OMB > 214214CD [5355 DMG] [-125%]

-FC j2C > 2C > dl236B > 6D > dlj2C > 2A > 2B > jc > jAB > 4D > 6A~A > 4B~B > 6D > 4B~B > 236236D [5543 DMG]

-FC j2c > 5C > 236B > 6D > dlj2C > 2A > 2C > jc > jAB > 4A~A > 6B~B > 4D > 6B~B > 236236D [5568 DMG]

-236C/D/CD > 214214CD [3298 DMG]

-236C > 214214C > 236AB > 6D > 6B~B x4 > 214214CD [4764 DMG]

System Starter
-AB [AoA] > C Finisher [FC] > jBB > j236C > j2C [3122 DMG]

-AB [AoA] > D Finisher [FC] > 236A > 6A~B > 4B~B > 6D > dlj2c [3379 DMG]

-2AB [sweep] > 236B > 4C > j2C [1603 DMG]

-CD [Throw] > OMC > 236B > 4C > j2C [1634 DMG]

-CD [Throw] > OMC > 5C > 2C > 236B > 4C > j2C [2109 DMG]

-CD [Throw] > OMB > TK 236D > 6B~B x3 > 236236D [3667 DMG]

-CD [Throw] > OMC > 236C > 214214C > 5AAAAAA > 236B~B x4 (236B~B > 4B~B x3) > 214214D [3955 DMG]

SP Skill Starter
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Near-Corner

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Normal Starters
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Skill Starter
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System Starter
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SP Skill Starter
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Corner

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Normal Starters
-5A > 5B > 5C > 2C > 5B > 2C 236B > j6C > j2C [2398 DMG]

Skill Starter
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System Starter
-AB [AoA] > D Finisher [FC] > 236B > j2C > 2A > 2C > dl5C > 5AAA > 6C > 236236C [4426 DMG]

SP Skill Starter
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[P4U2 2.0] Yosuke Video Thread

Thu, 10 Dec 2015 00:51:27 +0000

Given that a lot of links of the past thread don't work when clicking them, I (we) decided to do another one.

The only problem is that I don't know where are the "thread images", so this is gonna be an ulgy and simple opening post.

You can still use the links in the old thread if you paste them in another tab.

[P4AU] Yosuke Gameplay Discussion

Wed, 27 Nov 2013 11:03:47 +0000

Talk about the Hero of Junes, Yosuke, here. P4U2 only!

Video thread is up!

If you wanna talk about P4A, go here: P4A Gameplay discussion

Changes to Yosuke in Suplex!

New move - Shuntenhishokiri (V Slasher or Ninja Slash): Air236 C or D. Ends in a knockdown, can combo into j2C, can end air combos with V Slasher (Drags opponent all the way to the ground)
New Awakening Super - Shippu Nagareboshi (Shooting Star): 214214 C or D (Sukukaja only), requires no meter but ends Sukukaja. "Whoo!"

Buffs
+ Health increased to 8500
+ jC is 2 hits
+ New autocombo while Sukukaja is active (His 5A changes into a teleport slash)
+ 236AB ground bounces non-CH
+ New 5AA and 5AAA
+ Moonsault no longer takes up air actions
+ B Kunai goes full screen and A Kunai goes P4A B Kunai distance
+ SB Kunai inflicts poison.
+ j2C causes FC (but travels a shorter distance), j2D passes through the opponent on block

Nerfs
- 3 Persona Cards
- 236B no longer ground bounces
- 2C no longer fatal counters
- Sukukaja is much shorter
- Kunais do less damage and force the opponent to the ground
- Garudyne and Tentarafoo are Fatal Counter Recovery

General Changes
+/- Tentarafoo launches opponent slightly
+/- 236A sends Yosuke slightly backwards now, 236B sends him forward.
+/- Kunai inputs changed to j2A and j2B (j2AB for SB)
+/- j2B is now jAB

+/- Glide input is now jAB > A+C

Sukukaja Changes
+ An air action can be performed after Kunai
+ Sukukaja 5A is extremely fast
+ 2C no longer causes knockback on hit.
+ 2C causes FC

General Information

C Garudyne has faster start up than D Garudyne
D Garudyne does more damage than C Garudyne
SB Garudyne is C's startup plus D's damage
SB Garudyne is extremely fast and autotracks

SB Sukukaja has the faster start up, followed by C then D
D Suku last 10 seconds, C last 6 seconds, SB last 4 seconds.

C and SB Shooting Star (Sukukaja Super) has the same start up, D version is slower.
SB does the most damage, followed by D than C.
SB and D has the longest range (almost corner to corner), C moves about the size of Yu's Cross Slash hitbox

More coming soon!

Frame Data changes

Yosuke P4U2 Frame data changes

*AL = After Landing

5B is 0 on block now
5B is dash cancelable
Sweep has a P1 of 0
jA start up increased to 7 frames (Sukukaja jA remains at 5)
Can backdash jB. (But loses that option and gains forward dash cancel in Suku)
Sukukaja jBB start up decreased to 8 frames
jAB (formerly j2B) recovery increased to 30 from 25

5D gains Backdash and dash cancel in Sukukaja
5D P1 increased to 300 from 0 and P2 increased to 200 from 100
5DD P1 increased to 300 from 0 and P2 increased to 200 from 100
5DD active frames changed to 3,3,4 (4,4,5 before)
jC damage changed to 400, 200 (2 hits now) (formerly 500)
jC attack level lowered to 3 from 4
jC P1 increased to 300 from 200
Sukukaja jC start up increased to 18 from 16

Ground throw P1 changed to 0, P2 is changed to 900, 100
Air throw P1 changed to 0, P2 is changed to 1200, 100

Dodge [Taunt] (DP) active frames increased to 49 from 47
Dodge [Trip] start up is now 1 frame (2), Active for 28 frames (22), recovery decreased to 6 (22), Invul frame 1-17
Dodge [Trip] P1 increased to 900 from 500

Dash Spring A start up changed to 11 frames?
Dash Spring A damage changed to 300, 150 from 500, 250
Dash Spring A P1 changed to 600 from 0
Dash Spring A P2 changed to 200 from 800
Dash Spring A recovery changed to 39 + 9 After Landing from 31 + 16 After Landing
Dash Spring A static diff (frame advantage) changed to -19 from -11
Dash Spring A invul changed to 4-19 Feet from 6-21 Feet

Dash Spring B start up changed to 14 frames?
Dash Spring B damage changed to 400,200 from 500, 250
Dash Spring B P1 changed to 600 from 0
Dash Spring B P2 changed to 200 from 800
Dash Spring B recovery changed to 33 + 9 After Landing from 31 + 16 After Landing
Dash Spring B static diff (frame advantage) changed to -13 from -21
Dash Spring B invul changed to 7-22 Feet from 13-31 Feet

SB Dash Spring start up changed to 17 frames from 19
SB Dash Spring damage changed to 500,250 from 600, 300
SB Dash Spring P1 changed to 600 from 300
SB Dash Spring P2 changed to 200 from 100
SB Dash Spring SMP changed to 800 from 50
SB Dash Spring static diff (frame advantage) changed to -35 from -14
SB Dash Spring invul changed to 10-29 Projectile from 13-31 Projectile

All Kunai damage changed to 70, 40x11 from 134, 67x19
All Kunai P1 changed to 200, 0 from 400
All Kunai P2 changed to 0,50 from 100
All Kunai SMP changed to 0 from 1000
A Kunai recovery changed to 19 After Landing from 23 AL
B Kunai recovery changed to 19 After Landing from 27 AL
SB Kunai damage changed to 70, 40x11 from 134, 67x19

A and B Moonsault recovery changed to 9 After Landing from 16 and 14 respectively
SB Moonsault damage changed to 1300 from 1500, P2 changed to 600 from 400, Start up changed to 25 from 28, recovery changed to 11 AL from 14 AL

A Crescent Slash damage change to 900 from 1400
B Crescent Slash damage change to 1100 from 1400
Both version P2 changed to 600 from 400, recovery changed to 14 AL from 21 AL. Sukukaja version now has 600 SMP

D Mirage Slash (j2D) active frames changed to 9 from 8

[P4AU] Yosuke Video Thread

Wed, 27 Nov 2013 21:24:53 +0000

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[P4AU] Yosuke Hanamura - Gliding

Sat, 20 Sep 2014 17:06:43 +0000

Like in P4U, Yosuke still has the ability to Glide or Fastfall in the air thanks to a kara cancel (cancelling the start up on 1 move into another) with jAB into Air Turn (A+C) during an airdash. Gliding will allow Yosuke to keep his air dash momentum and fall at steeper angle. It also helps to glide backwards (Jump > A+C to turn backwards > Airdash > Glide) to help get jD out safely or just to escape back to neutral. Gliding helps Yosuke play neutral because it can be used to move around the screen faster than any character (He's faster even without it). It allows him to block while air dashing with no delay, come in at angles that are hard for certain characters to 2B (Chie, Akihiko, Mitsuru, etc), and to navigate projectiles or Naoto's traps.

So the notation would be:
Jump > 66jAB~A+C

Thanks to the overall changes to Yosuke in P4U2, Gliding becomes an even bigger part of Yosuke's gameplan because he has a knockdown after V Slash > j2C. With the correct spacing after a knockdown, Yosuke can preform a glide into jA or jB for an overhead cross up which can also count as a safe jump to bait wake up reversals (He can block directly after preforming the glide). V Slash > j2C > Glide with no spacing will allow him to either go for a low or grab. This has been dubbed "The Glide Mixup"

5AA is jump cancelable on block which allows Yosuke to preform a block string ending in 5AA > jump > Glide for a possible mixup or to help him continue pressure (2B works too!).

Remember; Learning to glide is one thing, but learning how to use glide is another.

More to come soon!

I need some help finding good gliding setups after knockdown

Fri, 03 Jul 2015 22:23:59 +0000

Since i'm too lazy to actual read through the archives, I decided to see if any fellow Yosuke players could help me out and give me some gliding setups for dealing with those annoying Margaret or Yu players.

[P4AU] Yosuke Hanamura [1.1] Guide

Mon, 20 Apr 2015 18:11:26 +0000

A few months ago, I asked Brett for help regarding Seth in UNI, he linked me this 40 page doc with so much info that I was baffled and then I got super inspired to make one for Yosuke.

This guide / doc / thingy is just a draft, aka I wrote everything down I wanted to and I'm going back and updating it whenever I get new info or when I'm just sitting in the lab.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1eJ5x1SYvjtA3oMdXOKAEXe9thIAhhd_AVLORgC9lzs4/edit?usp=sharing

This is just me writing down things (I asked Greek for S Yosuke stuff and he went super in-depth with it), so if you have anything to add / any questions / any concerns, feel free to hit me up here and I'll address it best I can!

Fellow Brosukes: Down for a Skype chat? Is there one?

Mon, 09 Mar 2015 01:46:04 +0000

Skype is used frequently by millions, and displays messages instantly-- I'm sure many of you know of how nice and useful Skype is.

The chats are invite only too, which means that we get to share tech in relative secrecy, if we want too.

Skype seems to help characters level up faster-- I know Margaret has a chat that LordKnight seems to lead-- I think Yosuke should have the same!

Send me your skype tags wherever you want to, and I'll get one of these started, if there isn't one already.

[P4AU] Yosuke 2.0 Changes

Thu, 20 Nov 2014 13:26:57 +0000

Yosuke Hanamura - Official 2.0 Translations

Thanks Ohno and Xie for the translations!

Official changelog video from ASW

Standing AAA (Both Forms)

Reduced recovery, can now move while midair

During auto combo, now performs Garudyne after the kunai are thrown

Sukukaja Auto Combo

Added Fatal Recovery state

Sukukaja Standing A (5th Hit)

Now floats higher on hit, reduced untechable time and is now ground techable

Crouching A

Decreased attack active frames

Standing B

Increased recovery time

Standing C or Crouching C

Now counts as a separate move between normal and Sukukaja versions

Jumping A (And Jumping BB)

Increased startup time

Decreased hitbox area of bottom portion

Jumping A+B

Can no longer be canceled during the initial frames to cause a trajectory change

Jumping C

Decreased startup time, increased number of hits

Improved frame difference when blocked

Decreased untechable time

Persona now appears lower

Sweep

Decreased recovery time

All Out Attack

Increased total hitbox area of interior area, making it harder to whiff up close

Reduced recovery time

All Out Attack Finish D

Now blows the opponent farther away

Ground or Air Throw

Decreased total poison time

Increased hitstun on ground throw

Dodge

Decreased active frames

Can now ground teched on air hit

Dash Spring (All Versions)

Decreased recovery on hit for A and B versions

Increased blowback on air hit for A and SB versions, decreased blowback for B version

B Dash Spring

Decreased pushback and ground hit

SB Dash Spring

Decreased startup time

Increased untechable time

Increased blockstun when blocked

Tentarafoo (All Versions)

Decreased startup time

Removed Fatal Recovery state, now causes Fatal Counter on hit

Increased float on hit, floats even higher on counter hit

Can be dash canceled during Sukukaja

No longer pushes the opponent, won’t miss the opponents this way

Flying Kunai (All Versions)

Thrown kunai now spread out while flying

Reduced landing recovery, can be One More Canceled

Changed blowback on hit, can now be followed up in the corner

During Sukukaja, can be air dash canceled

A Flying Kunai

Now flies at a slower speed

Mirage Slash (All Versions)

Now becomes invincible sooner

Persona is invincible during the move

Persona now disappears slower

Changed properties of D and SB version, D version does not attack while SB version does

Moonsault

Invincibility window on the A and B versions is now later

A Moonsault

Changed trajectory, now moves more horizontally

SB Moonsault

Decreased startup time

Decreased landing recovery

Decreased horizontal movement speed, easier to hit the opponent with

Adjusted blowback, making it easier to combo into Crescent Slash

Crescent Slash (All Versions)

Adjusted blowback, making it easier to combo into Crescent Slash

Changed attack property, making it harder to accidentally perform Flying Kunai

A Crescent Slash

Decreased falling speed after attack

B Crescent Slash

Increased startup time

Flying Flash Cut (All Versions)

Adjusted blowback on hit, now easier to hit with the second hit

Reduced untechable time on C and D versions, increased untechable time on SB version

Decreased recovery on D and SB versions, can be canceled into other skills earlier

Can perform Moonsault in either direction after One More Cancel

Persona now disappears slower

SB Flying Flash Cut

Decreased startup time

Projectile invincibility now starts earlier, runs out in the later portion of the attack

Worsened frame difference when blocked

Air Attack/Movement Limitations

All aerial attack limitations are now counted separately

(Moonsault X 3 > Mirage Slash or Flying Kunai etc can be done)

Flying Kunai can be performed up to 3 times per jump

Flying Kunai can now be performed even while kunai are still on the screen

Mirage Slash can only be performed once while airborne

Sukukaja (All Versions)

Invincibility during the superflash now continues

D Sukukaja

Decreased effect time

Shippu Nagareboshi (All Versions)

Added Fatal Recovery state

Changed trajectory (C version is diagonal, D version is straight up, and SB version is horizontal)

Certain Persona Attacks

Persona is now invincible when appearing until active frames (Standing C, Crouching C, Jumping C)

(Japanese player Mokke also believes his combo rate was changed to 60% from 70%)

[Any post before Jan 8th, 2015 are from the loketests and no longer valid]

[P4A] Yosuke Combo Thread

Wed, 11 Jul 2012 15:03:39 +0000

Placeholder for now, will be filled up once the game comes out.

Contents

1.) Midscreen Combos (Normal Mode)

1A.) Normal Starter

1B.) Skill Starter

1C.) System Starter

1D.) SP Skill Starter

2.) Corner Combos (Normal Mode)

2A.) Normal Starter

2B.) Skill Starter

2C.) System Starter

2D.) SP Skill Starter

3.) Midscreen Combos (Sukukaja Mode)

3A.) Normal Starter

3B.) Skill Starter

3C.) System Starter

3D.) SP Skill Starter

4.) Corner Combos (Sukukaja Mode)

4A.) Normal Starter

4B.) Skill Starter

4C.) System Starter

4D.) SP Skill Starter

Abbrieviations

OMC= One more cancel

OMB= One more burst

JC= Jump-cancel

SJC= Super jump-cancel

AOA-C= All out attack C ender

AOA-D= All out attack D ender

CH= Counter-hit

FC= Fatal counter

SP gain

SP use

Damage