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[BBCF] Amane Nishiki Gameplay Discussion

Mon, 12 Sep 2016 01:35:21 +0000

This thread will be used for any discussion of Amane himself. Keep it on topic (preferably gameplay but story is also relevant to some extent as long as it doesn't stray into general story/wishlist/etc.) so it doesn't become chaos in here.

General Information

Normals

A Moves

5A- High slap/punch attack, whiffs on crouching
6A- Anti air move with upper body invincibility. Jump cancelable
2A- Crouching jab (not a low), surprisingly low reach
j.A- Jumping jab, can chain in itself in whiff and is the only overhead Amane has. Good for air to air to convert into a combo or bring the opponent in blockstun with you as you land and start pressure.

B Moves

5B- Good move that covers a lot of area in front of Amane. Hits 3 times.
6B- Sends Amane diagonally upwards and back after using this move. Causes Fatal on CH. Lower body invincible on frame five. Throw invincible on frame 1 to 4. Allows air dash options afterwards, even on whiff.
2B- Hits low and a good starter
j.B- Scarf whip attack. Hits three times and has good range to hit down below. Not an overhead. Pretty long startup.
j.2B- Downwards spike. Amane interrupts his current air movement and goes straight down. He bounces back on hit or block unless done low enough to the ground. If used that way, lots of frame advantage. Not an overhead. Will not remain active until you land.

C Moves

Long range multi-hit pokes with slow startup. Hit 2 times from about 5 character lengths away (the knot at the end of the scarf). Second hit pulls opponents in. Will whiff at close range since there's no hitbox in between the knot and Amane. No hurtbox as well.
5C- Scarf extends forward at about head level. Whiffs on crouching
4C- Shorter but faster version of 4C. Not good for neutral or pressure but extremely good for combo routes.
2C- Long range attack along the ground. First hit is low. Forces stand on hit.
1C- Shorter but faster version of 2C. Only one low hit and doesn't force stand, but still pulls the opponent closer. 5B > 1C is a true combo and is also great for block strings.
6C- Diagonally upwards reach. Causes fatal on CH. Pretty unreliable as an anti-air due to it's slow startup. Very useful in combos.
3C- Sweep attack that slightly moves Amane forward. Only C attack that only hits once and isn't a long range attack like the rest. It's a regular normal.
j.C- Diagonally downwards striking scarf attack. Has good utility at neutral. Not an overhead.
j.6C- Scarf extends horizontally from Amane in the air. Mostly used for combos.
j.2C- Downward/down-forward striking attack. Not an overhead.

Drive: Spiral

3 levels of drill gauge. Gauge increases upon using D attacks and decreases over time. Drill attacks last longer and do more damage with higher level. A drill stays active for a maximum of 16 frames. Drill meter builds on whiffed D attacks solely when you have level 3.
Drill can overheat if charged for too long. When overheated, D moves and D specials cannot be used for around 2-3 seconds. After the overheat, you will return to level 1.
Each attack will deal more hits if button is held down, with each hit contributing to the drill gauge. Can stop holding moves at any time by releasing the button.
Level 3 D moves do a very high amount of chip damage on block. They also have increased frame advantage
On hit, they'll do significantly more damage due to increase of both damage and proration.
On drill level 3, your gauge will actually raise faster making it easier to maintain it as well as overheating it.
As of Extend, all drills can be special canceled on block! This is for useful for for pressure when combined with Zettou and Hariken.
Overdrive: Drill gauge is fixed at level 3 and rapidly builds up to it if lower. Note that you can still overheat if you push the drill too much, but that should be pretty hard since it'll try to maintain your drill at level 3 the whole time.

Drive Moves

5D- Lunges forward with drill arm. Long startup and existing hurtbox makes it risky to use it as a poke. Causes fatal on CH.
2D- Thrusts drill upward. Can be used as anti-air, but the head invulnerability comes pretty late making it less reliable. Works great during combo.
6D- Drill dropped from above about 3-4 characters away. Isn't an overhead. Easiest way to charge drill meter. Can be held indefinitely until overheat on block or hit, goes immediately into recovery on whiff now.
j.D- Downwards drill leg attack. Least damaging drill in Amane's drive attacks. Very strong pressure tool when combined with Zettou special cancel on block.
j.6D- Horizontal drill arm attack. Similar to 5D. Most damaging drive normal and should solely be used as a combo tool

Specials:

Hariken (236D)-
Drill charge stance. Pressing A/B/C will summon a drill a set distance away from Amane (A being closest and C being farthest). Pressing D cancels the stance. Summoning a drill now has a hit of its own, allowing it to combo the opponent in air juggles. Summoned drills will last longer on higher drill levels. Drills can be hit to be nullified as they have a hurtbox. Any summoned drill will maintain the drill level from going down during active frames. Maximum active frames of 15 despite active time.
Gekiren (623C)-
Summons cloth fist from underground. On hit it grabs the opponent and slams them to the ground. It's an unblockable strike that only hits airborne opponent. In BBCF, it's now possible to combo after on CH without having to Rapid Cancel. Will come out at a fixed distance from Amane unless used in the corner. Will be on screen next to the corner if the fixed distance would be off screen.
Raibu (236C)-
A charging attack. Multi-hitting and with great knockback. Causes wallstick on corner hit. Unsafe on block so should be used in combos or to end them.
Ginga (214C)-
Amane swipes a fan and summons a slow moving tornado. By far Amane's strongest special, this is great for extending corner combos, safely ending block strings and using meaty to stop roll techs and quick rise.
Gosei (j236C)-
Air charging attack, like Raibu. Amane first goes diagonally downward then continues with one more hit on the ground. On last hit, Amane will autocorrect to face the opponent of ot applies. Unsafe on block at -7, but with 50 meter, you can make it safe or convert into a combo by using a Rapid Cancel into 2C.
Zettou (214A/B and 236A/B)-
Command IAD-like hop move. The hop changes depending on the button used, A version is a smaller hop while B goes slightly higher and further. 236X hops forward while 214X hops backward. Can followup with normals after a little cooldown. You cannot cancel into anything besides movement and blocking options before a certain time. On ground Zettou, this is about 14-16 frames depending on the version. On air Zettou, this is 7 frames. Excellent pressure tool and useful in combos.
Seijuu (236236D)-
Charging super. Damage is inflicted after the dash is complete on hit and is based on drill level. Has invuln and Amane will be a medium distance behind the opponent after the move has completed. Can followup into a combo with level 2 or 3 drill meter. Level 2 followup is 3C, level 3 is 6C. This super will cause overheat on hit of your drill level unless it's rapid canceled correctly.
Goukai (632146D)-
Super that summons many drills that travel across the screen. No invuln frames. Pushes the opponent to the edge of the screen. Causes drill overheat. This super does really good damage even on level 1 and can be used to make combos burstsafe. You can increase damage by using Rapid cancel and by using Zettou into forward airdashes. That way the opponent eats more drills.

Misc:

Ground throw causes wall stick in the corner. Can be special canceled. Very versatile combo routes offered afterwards with good damage.
Amane uses his scarf as a bow and himself as an arrow for his air throw. Followup will vary depending on the height at which you throw. Basic one should be 6A jump canceled into air combo.
Taunt- Amane takes out a fan and fans himself.
Counter Assault uses 5B animation.

Astral info:

Wiki links (contribute if you can)

Amane Color Palettes

1-6
7-16

Amane CPEX > CF changelog

Thu, 03 Nov 2016 03:15:19 +0000

I've been using the diff tool on dantarion's hitbox site http://boxdox-bb.dantarion.com/#/diff to try and list changes. here they are.

health 10500 combo rate 60
5A recovery increased by 3F
5B damage 280 gatlings 4C, 1C
5C damage 780*2 p1 80 gatling 1C
4C damage 700 lv3 startup 17 active 2 (4) 2 recovery 15
2B damage 540 startup faster by 1F
2C damage 720 p180 air normal blockable gatling 4C
1C damage 650 lv3 p1 90 startup 17 active 2 (4) 2 recovery 23
3C damage 800 p2 82
j.A recovery increased by 1F. Whiff cancel into j.A replaced with regular gatling to j.A
j.B damage 280*2
j.2B startup 16 active 9 recovery 21
j.C damage 700
j.6C damage 780
j.4C damage 700
6A damage 600
6B damage 800 p1 80
6C damage 980 p1 80 startup 4f faster
fthrow damage 1500 p2 50
bthrow damage 1500 p2 50
athrow damage 750 p2 50
hariken kick damage 700 guardP 1-11
hariken drill damage 1000 lv3/4/5 startup 11 after kick active 61
gekiren damage 0, 2700
ginga damage 800 p1 90 p2 79 startup 14 active ?? total 50
raibu damage 200*6, 750 p2 75 startup 12 recovery 21, frame adv -5
Gosei damage 200*N, 900 p1 80 p2 89
SuperRush p1 80 p2 82
SuperRushOD p1 80 p2 82
SuperDrill inv 9-??
EA startup 20 active 3 recovery 20
EAfast startup 10 active 3 recovery 20

5D damage 120 no minimum damage lv1 11hits lv2 16hits lv3 30 hits
startup 15 active 24 recovery 26
2D damage 140
j.D damage 100
j.6D damage 150
6D damage 250
crush trigger uncharged p2 60 guard crush 32F
crush trigger charged p2 100 guard crush 60F
hariken stance guardP 5F~

caveats: i can't read all the stuff in the diff, especially stuff that involves charging like crush triggers and D moves, so i'm definitely missing stuff there (primarily timing info)

[BBCF] Amane Nishiki Combo Thread

Sun, 11 Sep 2016 21:15:24 +0000

Information

If you'd like to contribute, please feel free to do so! Just post the combos you created, but please write them properly. If you are unsure on how to write combos properly, then read the wiki page here. Make sure to read the Notation Used section in this post so that you understand the specific notations used for CHARACTER. Also refrain from using move names and abbreviations.
Please refrain from going off topic in this thread. This thread is for posting of combos only.
Only the most optimal combos will be listed in this thread.

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Midscreen

Normal Starters

- 2A > 2B > 5B > 1C > 5D > 236C (1952)

- 2A air hit > 5B > 5C [2] > 6C [1] > 236D~A or B > 5B > 5C [2] > 6C [2] > 236A > jC [2] > j6C [2] > j2B > j236A > j2C [2] > j236C (3547)

- 6B Fatal CH > jC [2] > j236A > jB > land > 2B > 6B > jC [2] > j236A > jB > 2B > 6B > jC [2] > j236A > j2C [1] > j236C (3512)

Throw Starters

- B+C > 236DD > dash 5C [1] > 6C [2] > 236D~A or B > dash 5B > 5C [2] > 6C [2] > 236A > jC [2] > j6C [2] > j2B > j236A > j2C [2] > j236C (3502)

- B+C > 236D~C > dash 2C > 6C[2] > 214A > j2B > j236A > jB > 5B > 4C > 6C [1] > 236D~B (3018)

- Air B+C > land > 5B > 5C [2] > 6C [2] > 236A > jC [2] > j6C [2] > j2B > j214A > j2C [2] > j236C (3129)

Special Starters
- 214C CH > 6C [2] > 236D~A or B > 5B > 5C [2] > 6C [2] > 236A > jC [2] > j6C [2] > j2B > j236A > j2C [2] > j236C (3712)

Overdrive Starters
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Near-Corner

Normal Starters
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Corner

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[BBCF] Amane Nishiki Q&A Thread

Mon, 12 Sep 2016 01:50:20 +0000

New version means a new thread! Questions regarding Amane belong here, everything from gameplay to story mode. If you are asking a question, please put it in BOLD font to more easily distinguish it. For people answering questions, make sure to quote the original post so everyone knows which questions have been addressed!

[BBCF] Amane Nishiki Video Thread

Mon, 12 Sep 2016 01:42:32 +0000

Finding match-up footage is a huge pain for Amane, but in BBCF he's much stronger so we'll see if this leads to more JP players using him and uploading matches.
If you'd like to contribute, please feel free to do so! Just link the video along with the time that Amane appears in the video, and I'll update this post with that video. If a suitable title for the video is available please list with it.
Please refrain from going off topic in this thread. This thread is for posting and discussion of videos only.

Notable Players

Sendatsu

Inagi

Jirou

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Amane Discord Chatroom

Wed, 13 Apr 2016 17:55:56 +0000

Discord is a way for users to instant message group chat, it's easy and fast to register. It's basically a super convenient version of IRC/Teamspeak/Skype, etc. Discord has a Desktop, Browser and Mobile App and has text channels and voice channels.

Feel free to come in to talk about upcoming Amane stuff, ask for advice, ask for games, etc.

To Join the Discord Group Click The Following Link:
https://discord.gg/0ucmacCcYqz9OH0E

[CPEX] Amane Nishiki Q&A Thread

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 16:58:06 +0000

All questions regarding Amane belong in this thread, from anything to gameplay to story mode. If you are asking a question, please put it in BOLD font to more easily distinguish it. For people answering questions, make sure to quote the original post so everyone knows which questions have been addressed!

[CPEX] Amane Nishiki Video Thread

Thu, 23 Apr 2015 16:47:36 +0000

This thread will only be for 1.10 videos. Visit the previous thread for original BBCP 1.1 and older ones!
If you'd like to contribute, please feel free to do so! Just link the video along with the time that Amane appears in the video, and I'll update this post with that video. If a suitable title for the video is available please list with it.
Please refrain from going off topic in this thread. This thread is for posting and discussion of videos only.

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Moves that Amane can use Hariken against

Tue, 01 Jul 2014 06:11:03 +0000

In 1.1, Amane's Hariken stance got a nice buff that gives it Projectile Armor. With this new tool, he can use Hariken on reaction to certain projectiles to "parry" them and gain free drill meter at the same time. The benefit to using Hariken in this manner is that he can avoid the hit stun of any projectile giving him the ability to punish or escape from certain situations. Here is a list of all the Normals/Specials/Supers/Astrals that Amane can use Hariken against.

*Disclaimer: Just because Hariken can be used against something doesn't mean it's the answer to beating it. It is ill advised to use Hariken against certain moves. (Example: Carl/Relius 236236D)*

General:

-Burst

Character Specific:

Amane:

- 5D
- 2D
- 6D
- j.D
- j.6D
- 236D~A/B/C
- 632146D
- 222D

Arakune:

- 5D*
- 2D*
- 6D*
- j.D*
- 22A/B/C*
- j.214214D*
- 632146D
*No Curse meter gained

Azrael:

- 2C
- 236B
- 214C

Bang:

- j.236A/B/C/D
- A+B

Bullet:

- 5C
- 5[C]
- 236A
- 236[A]
- A+B

Carl:

- 4D
- 6D
- 2D
- 3D
- 421D
- 4136D
- 623D
- 632146C
- 236236D
- 214214D
- OD 632146D
- 64641236D

Hakumen:

- j.214A
- 62146C

Hazama:

- 6C
- 5D
- j.6D
- j.4D
- 236D
- 632146C
- 1632143D

Izayoi:

- 236A*
- j.236A*

- 236D

- j.236D

- 632146D
*Gains only one stock

Jin:

- 5D
- 2D
- 236A
- 236D
- j.236A
- j.236D
- 632146C
- 632146D
- j.632146D
- 28D

Kagura:

- [4]6A
- [4]6B
- [4]1236C

Kokonoe:

- 5C
- j.C
- 214A/B/C
- 22A/B
- 236C*
- j.214A/B/C
- 214214A/B/C
- 632146D*
- j.214214A/B/C
*Hariken doesn't last long enough to beat

**Note on OD Black Hole: Hariken cannot beat it if done meaty due to start up

Litchi:

- 5D[e]

- 2D[e]

- 623D[m]

- 41236D[e]
- 41236D~A/B/C

- 6428C

- 632146D*

- A+B

*Hariken doesnt last long enough to beat horizontal version

Makoto:

- 236A

- 236A~D

- 632146D

Mu-12:

- 6C

- 5D

- 4D

- 6D

- j.D

- j.2D

- j.4D

- j.6D

- j.8D

- 236D

- 214D

- 632146D

- A+B

Noel:

- 5C

- 2C

- 3C

- 6C*

- 5D

- 4D

- 2D

- d.5A

- d.6A

- d.5B*

- d.5C

- d.4/6C

- d.236C*

- j.D

- j.2D

- j.4D

- 236A/B

- 236C

- j.236D

- 632146D*

- j.236236D

*Move is both Physical and Projectile. If too close, Hariken will lose.

Nu-13:

- 5C

- 5DD

- 2DD

- 4DD

- 6DD

- j.2DD

- 236D

- 236D~C

- 214D

- 214[D]

- j.214D

- 236236D

- [Luna] 632146D

- [Luna] j.632146D

Platinum:

- Neko Missiles

- Neko Bombs

- Presents

- Treasure Chests

- Super Hammer j.D

- 214A/B/C

- 236236C

Rachel:

- 5B

- 2B

- 236A/B/C

- 214A

- 214B

- 214C

- j.236A/B/C

- j.214C

- 632146B

- 62146C

Ragna:

- 236D

Relius:

- 2D

- 6D

- j.2D

- j.4/6D

- 214A

- 214B

- 214C

- 22A/B/C

- 236D

- 214D

- 23663214C

- 632146D

- 236236D

- 214214D

Tager:

- 623D

- 41236D

Taokaka:

- 63214A/B/C

Terumi:

- 5D
- j.D
- 236236D

Tsubaki:

- j.236A

- j.236D

- 632146B

Valkenhayn:

[CP] Amane Critique thread - Show me your dance moves

Mon, 04 Nov 2013 03:48:00 +0000

Figured we could use one of these. Post your replays from local recordings, tournaments, online matches and discuss it.

I'll be the first and post a match from last week's local tournament. Get at me http://www.twitch.tv/bibiquadium/c/3182243?t=39m48s