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http://www.dustloop.com/forums/index.php?/topic/10534-p4au-list-of-issues-with-the-wikis-frame-data/

Basically, I'm making this thread to set aside things to contribute/edit in an easily-read format.

1. Better descriptions on how her moves actually work.  

We probably have the least information and these descriptions do not work. So we skate by because no one (including me) bothered to set up our frame data speculations or how our normals actually work. [Probably 80% done on this]

There's frame data that still needs to be added (we have supposed proration values, but things like active frames/advantage/recovery need to be tested)

2. Screencaps (Urichinan actually provided these awhile ago) [DONE - by PK]

3. Combos

• Easy, but we need to simply show common things like enders/extenders since there's a billion ways to go about them.
• Inahk(z) made a pastebin some time ago for basically most confirms with excellent explanations, and we have more experience from tournaments/JP video to know which are optimal.

More to comment on soon.

[info=Information]

• If you'd like to contribute, please feel free to do so! Just post the combos you created, but please write them properly. If you are unsure on how to write combos properly, then read the wiki page here. Make sure to read the Notation Used section in this post so that you understand the specific notations used for Margaret. Also refrain from using move names and abbreviations.
• Please refrain from going off topic in this thread. This thread is for posting of combos only.
• Only the most optimal combos will be listed in this thread.

[collapse=General Notations Used][table]
[tr][td]>[/td][td]Gatling/cancel the previous move into the following move.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td],[/td][td]Link the previous move into the following move.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]|>[/td][td]After landing.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]j[/td][td]Jump[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]sj[/td][td]Super Jump[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]h[/td][td]Hop[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]hc[/td][td]Hop Cancel[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]ad[/td][td]Air Dash[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]iad[/td][td]Instant Air Dash[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]jc[/td][td]Jump Cancel[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]sjc[/td][td]Super Jump Cancel[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]dc[/td][td]Dash Cancel[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]OMC[/td][td]One More! Cancel[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AoA~C[/td][td]All Out Attack into C ender[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]AoA~D[/td][td]All Out Attack into D ender[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]CH[/td][td]Counter Hit[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]FC[/td][td]Fatal Counter[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][ ][/td][td]Hold Input[/td][/tr]
[tr][td](N)[/td][td]Attack must deal N amount of hits.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][???] xN[/td][td]Repeat ??? N amount of times.[/td][/tr][/table][/collapse][collapse=Guide Specific Notations Used]

• Notations in red are for prefixes only. Notations in blue are for suffixes only.

[table]
[tr][td]c.[/td][td]The attack must be used as close to the opponent as possible.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td]f.[/td][td]The attack must be used as far away from the opponent as possible.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][SS][/td][td]Side Swap combo[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][CO][/td][td]Crouching Opponent[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][AA][/td][td]Anti-air or Air-to-Air[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][RP][/td][td]Roll Punish[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][SD][/td][td]Shadow Only Combo[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][N%][/td][td]Player SP % required before combo start.[/td][/tr]
[tr][td][N/N%][/td][td]Damage/SP Gain %[/td][/tr][/table][/collapse][/info]

[info=Challenge Mode Combos][collapse]
Mission #01
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Combo Theory

• Margaret's primary goal is to convert hits into a knockdown from any situation where she can enforce her strong pressure game and maintain control of the match until she defeats an opponent outright with counterhit punishes or expending meter.
• Usually these meterless confirms will end with either 214A or j.214B to force knockdown.
• 214A commonly leads to safejumps involving IAD j.C to bait the opponent into retaliating.
• j.214B often leads into ranged okizeme situations that safely force the opponent into blockstun.
• In the corner, j.214B also especially leads into backdash j.22C okizeme situations that can repeat themselves when applied properly.
• If Margaret cannot maintain a proper knockdown with either of these moves due to proration or positioning, the combo can also be ended with j.2B or God's Hand (214C/D) when applicable.
• To punish reversals or mash out for counterhits, her goal is to confirm the counterhit into 2C > 2D whenever possible to greatly increase her damage potential.

Hassou Tobi:

• Hassou Tobi gives fixed damage based on the number of hits landed before connecting with the super.
• No matter what, it will add hits until it finally reaches a multiple of 8.
• For maximum damage, the combo count must already be a multiple of 8 before the super connects. The move will then automatically add hits to the next multiple.
• It is in Margaret's best interest to attempt to kill with this combo with minimal resources as possible while still keeping acceptable damage. Certain combos listed will show possible followups with Hassou Tobi when applicable.
• The damage of Hassou Tobi can be further boosted if inputted during the 4 frame superflash startup of Power Slash.
• It is important to consider the starting number of hits during a confirm as it determines access to Hassou Tobi damage.
• For instance, many confirms start with 2A 5C 5B - j.C can usually be added to allow 4 hits for an optimal combo in addition to being a superior starter.

For added guidance, these are the following multi-hit moves:

• 2B - 1 to 4 Hits
• 5AAAAA - 5 Hits
• AOA - 18 Hits
• 2D - 3 Hits
• 236D - 15 hits
• (j)214B - 2 hits,
• (j)214A+B - 3 Hits
• j236C - 6 Hits
• (j)236CD - 17 Hits, the grounded version hits 16 on "short" hitboxes against the corner
• 236236C or D - 10 Hits
• 236236CD - 15 Hits

Midscreen
Normal Starters

- 2A > 5C > 5B > 5AAAAA > 214A [1605]

- 5D > 2B(4) > j.2C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.214B

- [AA] 2B(4) > j.2C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.D > j.214B

- [AA] 5B > 5A > 5B > 5C > j.2C > j.B > j.C > j.D > j.214B

- [CO] 2A > 5C > 5B > 236D > 66 5C > j.2C > jc j.2C > j.214B 

• 236D will combo from either 5C or 5B on crouching, be aware of the persona's positioning if you choose to combo from 5C

- [CO] 2A > 5C > 5B > 236D > OMC > 66 2C > 2D > j.22C > 66 214C > 2B(4) > j.2C > jc > j.9C > j.2B

• 4 hits before 236D makes it possible to link 214214AB ender

- 2A > 5C > 5B > 236236CD > 66 2C > 2D > j.22C > 66 214C > 2B(4) > j.2C > jc > j.9C > j.2B [3547 75 meter]

• 4 hits before SB Panta Rhei makes it possible to link 214214AB ender

- 2A > 5C > 5B > 236236CD > 66 2C > 2D > j.22C > 214A > 214214A

- CH 5D > 2C > 2D > j.22C > 214A > 214214A

- CH j.C > 5A > 5C > j.2C > j.B > j.C > delay j.D > j.236CD > 2D > j.22C > 214D

• Air-to-air punish, the opponent must be close to the ground in order for this sequence to connect properly

- 5C > j.2C > j.B > j.C > delay j.D > j.236CD > 2D > j.22C > 214C > 2B(4) > j.2C > jc > j.9C > j.2B

• Burst punish variant

- CH 5C > 2C > 2D > j.22C > 214C > 5B > 5C > j.2C > jc > j.B > j.C > j.D > j.214B (> 214A > 214214A)

• 5B can be substituted with 2B to have a larger range to OTG from 214C at the cost of ~200 damage

 - CH 5C > 2C > 2D > j.22C > 214C > 5B > 5C > j.C > j.2C > jc > j.C > j.2C > j.214A > j.236236CD > 214D [5664 / 75 meter]

• Burst safe modification, match ender without Hassou Tobi

- FC 5C > 2C > hop j.22C > 66 214D > 5B > 5C > 214CD > 2B(4) > j.2C > j.22D > 214C > 2A > 5C > j.B > j.C > j.214B

• 2A 5C can be substituted for 5B 5C and ended with 2B(4)>j.214B for easier timing for links

Skill Starter
- 214A > 236236C > 2C > 2D > j.22C > 66 214C > 2B(4) > j.2C > jc j.C > j.2B (214214AB) [4039/5839 50-125 meter]

System Starter
- B+D > j.2C > TK j.214B

- Air C+D > falling j.C > 2B(4) > j.C > j.2C > j,214B

- AOA~C > j.B > j.C > j.2D > 5B > 5C > 214A > 214214A

• All 18 hits of AOA are required to end in Hassou Tobi

SP Skill Starter

[100% Required] - 236236A > OMC > 2C > 2D > j.22C > 214C > 2B(4) > j.2C > j.9C > j.2B

[125% Required] - 236236CD > 2C > 214214A

[150% Required] - 236236A > OMC > 2C > 2D > j.22C > 214A > 214214A

One More! Burst

- 2 Hits > OMB > 2C > 2D > j.22C > (236236AB) > 214214A [Burst - 50-125% Required] 

- 2A > 5C > 5B > OMB > 66 214C > 2B(4) > j.2C > jc > j.C > j.2B > j.236CD > 2C > 2D > j.22C > 2C > 214B(1) > 236236B [Burst - 75% Required] 

Near Corner
Normal Starters
- 2A > 5C > 5B > 214B > 2B(4) > j.C > j.2C > j.214B

• To properly connect to 2B link, time it as the sprite is in the falling animation when the 214B launch is finished.

- [AA] 2B(4) > j.2C > jc> j.B > j.C > j.D > j.214B > 2A > 5C > j.C > dj.C > j.2B

- 5D > 2B(4) > j.C > j.2C > j.214B 

- CH j.2D > 66 j.C > 2A > 5C > 5B > 214B > 2B(4) > j.2C > j.214B

- [CO] 2A > 5C > 5B > 236D > 66 2B(4) > j.C > j.2C > j.214B

Skill Starter
- CH 214C/D > 2B(4) > j.C > j.2C > j.214B

System Starter
- C+D > 2A > 2B(4) > j.C > j.2C > j.214B
 

Corner

Normal Starters

- 2A > 5C > 5B > 5AAAAA > 236D > 214A (>214214A)

• 236D can only combo from the 5th hit of autocombo
• For a visual cue, notice the enlarged "sparkle" effect from the 5th hit in comparison to the first 4.

- CH 5C > 2C > 2D > 5D > 5A > 5C > j.C > j.2C > dj.C > j.2C > j.214AB > 214214A

- 2A > 5C > 5B > 236CD > 2C > 2D > j.22C > 66 214C > 2B(4) > j.2C > dj.C > j.2B >214214AB

       (Works on                       )

• 2C will link universally if spaced far enough from the corner to allow all 17 hits of 236CD to connect

[125% Required] - 5D > 5A > 5C > j.2C > dj.C > j.2C > j.214A > j.236236CD > 2C > 214214A 

• Space the 5A far enough in order for SB Panta Rhei to hit all 15 times in the corner.

System Starter

CH B+D > j.2C > jc > j.C > j.214AB > 214A > 214214A

One More! Burst 

[75% Required] - 2A > 5C > 5B > OMB > 214D > 2B(4) > j.2C > dj.C > j.2B > late j.236CD > 2C > 2D > j.22C > 2C > 214B > 214214A

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5A

• Cannot be canceled back into the move it was canceled from

Auto Combo

• Increased the hitstun of the 5th hit
• Divine Vacuum can no longer come out if holding directional inputs during Auto Combo

 

5C

• Decreased upper area hitbox size

 

j.2C

• Reduced lower area hitbox size

 

j.2D

• Slightly decreased startup time

 

Sweep

• Can delay the timing of the attack by holding the button down

 

All Out Attack

• Decreased recovery time
• Invincibility now runs out before the attack’s active frames

 

Air Throw

• Decreased untechable time

 

Ultra Suplex

• Decreased untechable time on Counter Hit 

 

C Divine Vacuum

• Spear appears from a slightly closer distance

 

God Hand (All Versions)

• Persona is invincible until the active frames of the attack

 

SB God Hand

• Reduced recovery time, same frame difference when instant blocked
• Shortened the time period where a Persona move cannot be used afterward

 

Power Slash (All Versions)

• Decreased time length before superflash, no change to total startup time
• Increased attack power multiplier when performed quickly in succession

 

Panta Rhei (All Versions)

• For C and SB Versions, Cuchulainn will attack from where the most recent Persona attack was

 

SB Panta Rhei

• Decreased startup time
• Removed strike invincibility from the ground version, is now only projectile invincible

 

Hassou Tobi (All Versions)

• Decreased time length before superflash, no change to total startup time aside from B version

 

B Hassou Tobi

• Decreased startup time
• Decreased recovery after hit, now easier to follow up

 

Mediarahan (All Versions)

• Is now Armor Invincible to all attacks other than throws starting part-way through the move
• During the invincibility frames, recovery damage dealt by an opponent and is fully invincible
• Reduced total recovery time
• Decreased HP healed to self
• Recover both player’s Persona cards

 

Morning Star

• Can no longer be pushed by opponents during the animation

Hurtbox

• Sliding hurtbox has been made larger

 

Persona Gauge

• Persona Gauge recovers slower during Persona Break

 

Certain Persona Attacks

• Persona is now invincible when appearing until active frames for all C Attacks except Jumping 22C, all versions of Divine Vacuum, all aerial versions of Gale Slash.