Also, headlining this thread with Rychtors beautiful Bang guide here: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1UBO8rO3NFUsBE5SOkQTw90Kf-OEc9nVp7Yjny_MYJM8/edit?tab=t.0

I am currently having problems with the controls of FRKZ (Fu-Rin-Ka-Zan, will type it like FRKZ from now on). While I do know it replaces all movement to high speed dashes in a direction, I find it impossible to input special moves during combos because the dash overrides the inputs, at least for me. What I tried to do is this combo (for now, ignore match conditions, this is just to make a point)

2D > FRKZ cancel > 8j.C > 6j.C > 4j.C > 9j.C > j.623B (assume that all 4 seals during this combo are active and I began the combo from the left side).

When I am about to input j.623B, instead of doing the move at the end of the input, Bang will simply do a dash forwards (I input SRK/DP motions as 626, it also works) instead of the fire punch, thus dropping the combo. Same thing on the ground, when I wanna do 5B > 2B > 6C in OD, he will teleport instead of doing the 6C. Any workarounds?

Also, is his 6C > j.D > web nail combos gone? Because I find it quite hard to connect during a combo, due to the lower nail throwing angle, same thing with j.C > j.D routes.

http://www.famitsu.com/cominy/?m=pc&a=page_fh_diary&target_c_diary_id=95346

I translated the listed changes we have so far:

 

I might be missing somethings but the gist is this:

-5A>2A revolver action gone

-2A>2A revolver action returned

-B nail feels faster/nicer to use

-2B>5D doesn't combo on crouching

-Mussasabi no jutsu (scarf fly/hover) is doable twice in a row now, doable after airdash/itself/etc (my interpretation is that it does not consume air options now and rather just has a flat 2 usage rate), things like J2C>J22A>J2C>J22A>J2C  are possible

-C-nail webs you even if you block it (of course this means huge blockstun will ensure when that happens)

edit: more stuff from article:

Pressing D after guard point (the explosion) is extremely fast and almost always hit . They mentioned not every case has been tested out though

If the D move hits, the followup is guaranteed to hit also

If the D move is blocked you can/and should still do it because its safe on block (in this case if just the explosion hits you dont get a seal)

 

You can move after the explosion when your clothes come back, if you're mid air you keep your air options too

 

2C > ABCD (hold) connects, so is OD Daifunka > RC > Exceed Accel and it does huge damage during Active Flow

 

They also mentioned you can cross up 3 times for doing J4B > 22A > J4B > 22A > J4B (but I dont see how that works in a real match)

Thanks to ryu-bi!

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Please help me compile all of the changes in this thread.

From Dora (not a direct quote):

New Super is GOD!

Similiar to Chipp's Maximum Spider super except it is an air command grab that hits the whole screen. Does 2700 damage.

FRKZ is REALLY STRONG.

j22A is similiar to Platinum's Swallow Moon

Steel Rain costs 4 nails, unsure how to use.

Guard Crush is bad.

CP Bang >>>> EX Bang

Crush Triggers don't seem balanced between the cast.

Hitstop is decreased and Combos are short, so the game feels much faster.

new combo route -> 6C>J22a>J4C>6C～

FRKZ deactivates in the middle of a combo

SuperCrash is bad

DORA BANG COLOR (PURPLE) is GONE

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• Crush Trigger, 1000, P2 100
• j.623B, 1300, P2 92
• 3C, 880, P2 94
• j.4B, 840, P2 94
• 6B, 780, P2 92
• 5C, 760, P2 92
• j.C, 600, P2 92
• (w/4seal) 2D or 6D, 1065, P2 87
• j.2C, 650, P2 89
• 5B, 640, P2 89
• 2B, 620, P2 89
• 6A, 540, P2 89
• 2D or 6D, 710, P2 87
• (w/4seal) j.D, 945, P2 84
• (w/4seal) 5D, 840, P2 84
• 6C, 820, P2 84
• 623B, 1300, P2 72
• j.B, 560, P2 85
• j.236A or j.236B or j.236D, 300, P2 90
• 2C, 750, P2 79
• 5A or j.A, 300, P2 77
• 2A, 300, P2 75
• j.236C, 300. P2 75

This list doesn't need to be taken too seriously, but it can help when deciding which move to prioritize over another. For example when you have the choice between 5B or 2B or both in a combo, it can help in making that decision.

How it works:
When you have the choice between two moves, always use the one higher on the list. The earlier and more often you use moves from the top of the list, the better and more optimal your combo will be.

Example:
You can see from the list that 2C is a horrible move that sucks the very life out of your combo. Naturally if you can fit more higher-up moves fin BEFORE the 2C in your combo, you can tack on some nice additional damage.

Consider the combo: 5C > 2C > 623B > etc..
Many moves are higher-up on the list compared to 2C. If we can fit any of them in before the 2C, we can add damage to the combo.
That means that: 5C > 6A > 2C > 623B will always get you more damage.

This might seem useless to a lot of people because most of us tend to just learn a combo that we are told is good or that Japanese players use and we're done with it. For anyone trying to experiment this list will probably be really useful (and I know many of us are in the lab experimenting with the weird stuff).

Notes:

• Crush Trigger is the ultimate combo damage tool. It has a P2 of 100 and adds 1000 damage. Finding a way to use crush trigger as early as possible in a combo is definitely worthwhile.
• 2C is really bad... REALLY bad. Using 3C Rapid Cancel in a combo that will kill and you have meter to burn is an option.
• The list is not 100% perfect because there are times when the raw damage of a move outweighs the poor P2, like ground super crash. I've tried to rank these moves appropriately.
• Poison nail is low on the list only because of it's effect on the entire combo. It does 800 damage and that does need to be taken into account. Speaking of raw potential only, though, whether you poison at the beginning or at the end doesn't change that 800 damage.
• This list has absolutely nothing to do with choosing a good starter for your combo. That is something else entirely.
• I do not expect this list to be a revelation to anyone, it's just something i do every game and I am sharing it this time around to see if it's worthwhile.

Feel free to discuss !

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