Starlight777 Posted August 27, 2012 Posted August 27, 2012 If it comes down to the worst scenario, I guess Relius will be moved down to sub with Platinum and I'll prance to the land of Fab with the Amane players.
Nokita Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) A little bit of clarification and a couple of additional notes. Bel rafino does not track fullscreen. The max range is like, about as long as his 5B. Give or take a few. Sorry,should've been more clear. Lugia is emergency techable on normal hit. Relius does not get that much additional time on counter hit either. rc>dash 5B is about all he gets on CH for the A and B version. Can't do shit about the C version without Ignis. Other then that Ignis needs to be close enough to pick them up with 6D/4D/2D or whatever. Doing 4D>Lugia instead of 4D>3C doesn't even give you a knock down of some sorts. 4D>3C>Lugia doesn't work either.Too slow. Not that good. Ignis consumes about 1000 units in 5 seconds for doing nothing. That's almost 3 or 4 times as much as in csex. Sounds fucking crazy. A throw can only be followed up with 236C in the corner. They don't bounce high enough for anything else. 236C and j.236C launches less or the gravity is stronger. Getting stuff like j.236C>j.214B>5C/3C to work is tough. It not impossible,but Relius does not have easy access to it anymore. Only the hitbox in front of Relius/to the side of Relius has been changed. For all that it's worth,the hitbox on the lower part of his j.B is unchanged. Air throw>2C>6C>Gad Leis>j.B>j.C blue beats between the j.B and j.C Edited August 28, 2012 by Nokita
TD Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 l guess arcsys bashed relius repeatedly in his good knee. seems like there needs to be a joke character every game.
Starlight777 Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 l guess arcsys bashed relius repeatedly in his good knee. seems like there needs to be a joke character every game. They didn't just hit him in the good knee repeatedly, they also uploaded a virus onto Ignis too. If these changes stay, I'm off to the wonderful land of FAB.
Toasty Posted August 28, 2012 Author Posted August 28, 2012 It seems like he got more buffs than nerfs with the first loketest, so I'm assuming they're just testing out what severe nerfs would do to him. Also if they want to change the entire flow of the game, it would make sense to take away some combo tools from everyone anyway. At the worst, I'd say he would just end up having to be played differently. In the end, I think he'll be fine, though I know I'm being very optimistic. If these changes stay, I'm off to the wonderful land of FAB. Relius AND Amane? I can tell you have good taste in characters. :3
.:TM:. Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Oh so Lafino is still useless, wonderful. Well his 6A is faster it seems so that's good. Geara Nose has a different animation I noticed, seems like the trajectory was changed so it would hit an opponent even when you were right in the corner, so as much as that move got buttfucked by getting slower I guess the new angle is a buff.
Chazmobile Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 Bah, I was actually getting excited for the tracking Lafino being able to counter zoning. Whelp. Hooray for one of my only wishes for Relius being granted with a faster 6a!
.:TM:. Posted August 28, 2012 Posted August 28, 2012 This was posted in the Tsubaki forum but I'll repost it here since it's somewhat of a change. When Relius astrals Tsubaki he traps her in a new way, there is a drawing of what it looks like here: https://twitter.com/sshalss/status/239732159408111617/photo/1
someonewhodied Posted November 1, 2012 Posted November 1, 2012 Combo idea (Character specific): If you get a 6C(FC) and want to go with the standard combo, swap out the middle 6C with 2C>3C or 2B>3C 6C(FC)>236C~214A>66(2C/2B)>3C>214A>5C(2)>j.5C>j.9D>dj.5C>j.236C~214A>5C(2)>2C>4D>5C(2)>4D>6C>632146C Now you don't lose damage from 6C reps
FR05tB1t3 BOB Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 so is there no new info for relius from the recent loketest?
Starlight777 Posted November 9, 2012 Posted November 9, 2012 Nope not yet. Hope this round of changes isn't godawful.
Errol Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 I'm afraid all you guys are going to get is more info about female characters getting AH'd. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7PAwQCCAAA3V36.jpg
Starlight777 Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 I'm afraid all you guys are going to get is more info about female characters getting AH'd. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7PAwQCCAAA3V36.jpg I consider that a buff.
FR05tB1t3 BOB Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 I'm afraid all you guys are going to get is more info about female characters getting AH'd. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A7PAwQCCAAA3V36.jpg why is relius so godlike?
.:TM:. Posted November 10, 2012 Posted November 10, 2012 We really appreciate the hard work you put into finding out changes, loke testers :U (and no that wasn't serious)
FR05tB1t3 BOB Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 so relius didnt get any changes AT ALL this loketest??
Kurushii Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 For the final loketest we didn't get any news of him. So it'll be a treat to see him next week.
Nokita Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 so relius didnt get any changes AT ALL this loketest?? *5B>6D>6A>6D The last 6D does not hit.Ignis apparently steps further forward during 6D. 6D slower start up? *Val Tus: Tracks the opponent.(no explanations were given,said to be strong) *Val Lanto: Faster start up?Better hitbox? *Geara act: still slow as fuck. *6C>Val tus connects. useful for OD cancel. *6C>Gad Leis connects. j.B>j.C>(dash) 5B>6B>5C1>2C>6C>Gad Leis BnB combo part for relius without ignis. *OD: -4D launches really high.does not wall bounce/wall stick apparently. -Val lanto is faster,causes slide down. -Duo Bios:"Is it unlimited?" (Don't know what he's referring to.Similiar to unlimited Relius maybe?) -Val Tus:causes wall stick. *5B>3C>ODc>5B works. *Corner: 4D>geara nose>val lanto>5C>2C>6C>Val tus supposedly works. (might be OD only,assuming the part about the different properties during OD is actually true.) Somewhat questionable,but better then nothing.
.:TM:. Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Not sure what they mean by unlimited Dul Bios because Relius' Dul Bios remains the same when he is unlimited. What it probably means that, like Carl, Relius gets a new end to Dul Bios that does a bit more damage. These changes are pretty awesome, I died when I saw you can combo INTO Geara Nose and Val Tus. Val Tus tracking sounds REALLY good btw.
Starlight777 Posted November 15, 2012 Posted November 15, 2012 Does Relius OD change some properties on Ignis' attacks? If so his OD doesn't sound useless anymore. These buffs are actually making the time I spent playing his BBEX version sound worth it.
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