Sol.Badguy Posted September 4, 2012 Posted September 4, 2012 OK, I looked around for quite a while and I didn't see any threads up talking about PSR whatsoever, so I'm making one here and now. Of course a Mod can move/close/delete this if it's in the wrong place, bad topic, etc. Basically, I was wondering if anyone has figured out anything about how PSR works. I talked with Bootowski over XBL about it, but maybe someone else here has something to contribute. His thoughts were that; From match 1 to 100, you gain between 5-9 PSR per win, then after that you only gain 1-2(maybe 3) if you beat someone of the same rank. You've got to beat lower ranks 1 - 3 times to gain +1 PSR though. Of course if you lose to anyone that's not above your PSR by at least about 200, then you'll always -1 every time you lose. My Gripes Holy shit, is it just me or is this PSR system BAD? Aside from the fact that it may be abusable by ranking yourself down with someone you don't play, so that you can gain more psr with someone you do, it just makes me not even want to play ranked. I started this game as most would, by playing my main(Yosuke). After I beat his challenges and felt comfortable with his play, I got online and did some ranked. Now of course I wasn't that great and ended up only winning probably 65% of my matches, but I didn't know my PSR would cut off so drastically. Long story short, I ended up playing until it started going up in 1's(at about 672). Then I picked up Labrys and did the same with her. Now that I was more familiar with the game and was having a generally easier time beating people with her, my PSR with her stopped at 727. In the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter that my main isn't my highest PSR; However it bothers me, because I feel now that my Yosuke should be higher, and only isn't because I was more of a scrub when I started out. More importantly though, now I don't even really feel like playing anyone who challenges me below my rank, because the balance of what I have to gain/lose is so negative. Does anybody feel this way, or should I just keep my mouth shut and stay in player match? (Sorry it was kind of long, I ended up having more to say than I thought) TL;DR: I dislike this PSR system and am confused upon how it even works. oh fun sidenote, if I go to the leaderboards and look for my spot in Labrys PSR, it doesn't even show up. Weird.
AeternumSomnium Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 Good thread op I had always been curious about PSR, but I just assumed everyone had already discussed it so I didn't want to be that guy and be the only one to bring it up again, glad someone else is curious too. I can't stand the ranking system to be honest, while it isn't that bad really--I find myself getting screwed every rank up match, brought to the end of the rope and barely holding on with a rank down match, and starting my shallow ascent back up the latter again only to repeat the vicious cycle. My percentage is about 70% so....that won't leave a lot of room to rank up when I get really high up--if I ever do.
Ciddypoo Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 I dunno, you can lose PSR to players well under you but not Rank. I think it's fine, but w/e. Have you played a ranked match recently? I noticed a sudden absence of a lot of players that should be on the list around the turn of the new month, so maybe it 'clears' the board every month until someone plays a game (to ensure that the player is active and not just squatting forever with their PSR). I was like 20-some Yukiko, then I found myself off the list at the new month, and I reappeared on the list at 10 after I played a single ranked match, and I'm steadily declining as most of the players that were originally higher PSR than me have been playing games. And of course, Grade/Ranking is a separate issue: http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/641802-persona-4-arena/63860567 If you're above C and you wanna make sure you don't rank down when you play new alts, just make sure you don't play someone within a grade of you, I guess. I don't like being able to select and decline all these ranked matches over anything other than lag, though. Seems like it beats the purpose.
Sol.Badguy Posted September 5, 2012 Author Posted September 5, 2012 http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/641802-persona-4-arena/63860567 That's a pretty helpful link, thanks for posting that.
Kyosuke Kagami Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 So, this shit resets its online stats every new month? Thought that was an Arcana Heart 3 only thing.
Ciddypoo Posted September 5, 2012 Posted September 5, 2012 It doesn't seem to reset, it just pulls 'inactive' people off of the list until they play a game. They don't like PSR/Grade/whatever, they just won't be on the list until they prove themselves active in ranking by at least playing a game (or what I make of the situation).
AeternumSomnium Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Huh, I kind of respect it a little bit more now Although it kind of sucks if you don't really have the time--or patience to be persistant Either way, interesting
Sol.Badguy Posted September 6, 2012 Author Posted September 6, 2012 That is strange, but so is this entire PSR system. I wonder, if I played just 1 ranked match against a noob and won with Labrys(gaining +0PSR), if I would be placed back on the leaderboard at 729 Labry at like 10th place lol.
Ciddypoo Posted September 6, 2012 Posted September 6, 2012 Huh, I kind of respect it a little bit more now Although it kind of sucks if you don't really have the time--or patience to be persistant Either way, interesting Well, time doesn't have anything to do with persistence. If you played only 3 / 5 games every day, only against people that would rank you up ... you'd rank up every day if you won all of the matches. Which isn't a lot of time.
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