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Lastly, the secret to the Tager mirror is 5C. Just keep poking with it until you get a hit. Also don't jump, between 2C and AC you cant jump in on Tager with Tager safely. Seriously, I can beat all Tagers online save one by patiently poking away and hit confirming with 5C. The one I can't beat is the one who taught me the matchup.