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Yeah, you have to be fast, but the payoff is worth it. :P TK is mostly for tsubaki. The difference is just enough for me to whiff a combo, so I have to hop it. TK hotaru is fine, though. Hey, speaking about timing, how do you do j.D -> hotaru? I've never been able to do that. Also, when you mentioned countering Bang's nails, was it 5d or 6d? I need to get better at countering stuff, and you're way better than me at that. :P