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wow. the exact reasons I was thinking about. Carl definitely felt like the least mobile character(not counting Tager) and Carl's "hop" is incredibly unsafe meaning he would have to air dash at the opponent. since Carl lacks good jump-in moves, he is screwed without Nirvana helping him. having to rely on Nirvana to get near the opponent means he really needs to pack on the damage once he touches them. I'm not sure about how good Hakumen's damage is but it is a shame what they did to Tager. He should be easily breaking 5K since he is the supposed to be the powerhouse grappler. And it is KnightofNosni. How did you guess?