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the way I look at the match up I think this: he is going to buffer 360/720 in my pressure so I jump. he is holding 1 so its a 360 for me. he is jumping over my head and 2C and 623C won't work...-rages- it feels like you don't have to think too hard on the match up or you eat a 720. I normally win because I think simple and as long as I have 50 heat I can usually put fear in him. only bad thing about this is gadget, just got to pick your pacing, if your gonna be aggressive then make it count, get your health lead and ease up a bit. thanks to lost soul he taught me that if the opposing tager goes on the defensive and he's afraid to push buttons then he lost.