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I agree with everything you have said soujiro because it's so very true. But while I know that it's more likely that she'll still suck even after this patch, there's this part of me that kind of hopes that at least she won't be worse OTL

Yea, as far as I know there was no patching of Platinum but to be fair no one would really be able to know what was patched and what wasn't with her haha. This. I'm still gonna main Tsubaki even if it kills me which it probably will... and I'm okay with that.

... So it's just another sad day in the Tsubaki threads ]:

I was wondering if there was any new info on Tsubaki from the 4th loketest. I didn't see anything.... though that may be a good/bad thing depending on how you look at it.

I was able to get it on normal difficulty (not sure if difficulty affects story mode though) relatively easy the other day when I tried. After I got a health lead, I just kept dashing back and forth and won that way. Hope that helps as well and good luck to you!

Oh okay I see, that makes sense. Thank you for explaining it to me and yes, it appears my understanding/thoughts on oki were wrong making my other posts' points invalid. I'm sorry for giving misinformation.

Really? Because the way it was described to me when I asked was that if you were the one who knocked your opponent down and you try to keep up pressure by going into the air, they can use their air unblockable moves so you only have certain ground attacks to use, if you have them, in an oki game. Like I can understand why they're good to have but I am still just a bit confused. I'm will admit that I'm still learning though, so it's nice to be corrected and see other points of views.

Sorry, I should have chosen my words more carefully. That was my completely my fault, and I apologize OTL. I ment most moves can be easily tech’d out of (how I thought this was “jumping out of” is beyond me >___>) if you’re just saying that any move such as 2a (since we’ve used this before) is oki. I will admit that there are moves that can be considered oki but they’re not as effective as they could be for an oki game. Jin’s ice sword is good because you have to either tech or roll out of it. If you tech out of it you’re okay but if you roll then it’s a reset. BB has oki but there’s so little of it. I also ment that the loketests aren’t helping because they’re not improving it. They’re making certain moves air-unblockable (unless you barrier) so you have less ways to pressure your opponent as they’re waking-up. This can change of course since it’s only a loketest.

Yes, the time-up is absolutely necessary. There is no other way to get the ending except that way unfortunately. I usually just tried to get a good lead and then played keep away and blocked the rest of the time, but even then it's still hard. It's better than some of the other ending requirements though *looks at Johnny's ending requirements*

Oki isn't just about making your opponent block though, like Slayer Alucard said it's about keeping up pressure towards your opponent. You don't HAVE to block and you can easily jump out of most moves or even beat them and be completely safe in BB as you wake-up, effectively removing pressure even if they have a mix-up game. BB may have a little bit of oki but even then it isn't strong except for a few characters, and the recent loketest changes aren't helping.

Well this is the definition I found on okizeme because I'm too stupid to word it myself lol. I honestly don't know how to describe it myself but I can see it when it happens In general, Okizeme begins when a player knocks their opponent off of their feet. While on the ground, the opponent has several possible options (depending upon the game) including just getting up, rolling away/towards before getting up, rising with an attack, or a combination (i.e. rolling away/towards and rising with an attack). The player still standing will attempt to attack the opponent usually by countering their rising attack, allowing them to combo their opponent or, preferrably, knock them over again, thus keeping their advantage. In addition, the opponent does not react in time, the standing player can attack their opponent with a pounce attack, or certain types of low attacks for additional damage. In most 2D Fighting Games, because the grounded opponent cannot be attacked, and/or can immediate counter or block any attempted attacks, Okizeme is more often used to make the opponent block or behave in a certain way. For example, the standing player throws a fireball so the opponent will get up into it, forcing them to either block it or get hit, which is guaranteed damage either way. Watch this Millia match video (there's a Slayer mirror in the middle then it's Millia vs. Slayer) and what she does when Sol and Slayer are knocked down. THAT is okizeme. Sorry about the off-topicness ;____; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=casIuor98UE

Awww that's cute :D

Ahhh, okay thanks. Yea Litchi was the only one I could think of off the top of my head. @killatrooper: From the way I learned it, oki means a wake-up game so it's the mix-up options you have when an opponent is getting up after you knock them down and try to keep them down. Like, if your opponent is on the ground and they guess right what you're going to do then they won't get damaged but if they guess wrong they take damage and may be on the ground again. Obviously, there's more to it than just that but that's the basic idea. Punishing tech rolls/quick getups are a bit different. If I'm wrong in anything I've said please feel free to correct me that's just what I always thought it was considering I mained Millia in GG so yeaaaaa...

Does anybody have oki in BB? Like, real oki? I know there's probably a few characters who kinda have oki and I'm not trying to argue anything, I'm just curious.

I lol'd ZONG.

Yes. Ama drew her haha.

You know, I used to have an avatar that made fun of her last name. Maybe I'll start using it again after this one.

Oh~ho~ indeed. My bad haha.

Nice :D It was awesome of her to dub it haha!

I like it :3 And it fits you too well haha.

I like how she's suddenly an it.... and lol Batousai. I thought everyone did that already? Or at least that's what me and my friends do. We should probably add the taunt though.

I don't mind. She still looks good

You're exactly right. It's not entirely GG tee-hee.

It looks like it's one of those fill-in-the-blank comics that you'd send them and they may feature it in the show.