Faust in Accent Core : Matchups

[Akira]

Bridget is highly unfun. :s

I know your pain... and thanks to him I know how to block mix ups =p

[dice]

If may is on top of you don't even think about attacking unless you're instant blocking. Just be patient, she can't stay on top of you forever. But for the most part it is your job to prevent her from getting near you in the first place. Remember jHS owns all (unless she's close to you then you'll eat a CH jHS from her for free). And items items items items. I know this is limited info but I'm serious. May has too much priority against Faust upclose. Especially air to air. However Faust's 6P if done early enough can beat out an airborne May. Keep that in mind as well.

I get caught with those damn 5k into grab, wats the recovery time on that becuase even when i try to use 5p the grab still beats me

[Zinac]

I get caught with those damn 5k into grab, wats the recovery time on that becuase even when i try to use 5p the grab still beats me

Its called a frame trap. just jump, or backdash out of it.

[dice]

Its called a frame trap. just jump, or backdash out of it.

yea Im aware its just very hard to see and if anticipated wrong faust is gonna eat a combo hard core.

I was playing once again against the may players and discovered that 5k is fukin gold. Its like when the dolphin dash that she does is about 1/2 of the way through and u connect the 5k, it will beat it out bad and of course combo after it.

when the dolphine is roughly about 1/2 to the actual attack connecting with u, 5k will still work, not 100% of the time, but it will either connect and beat it out or trade. The risky thing about this is that you got be good with your reflex and reaction if the dolphin was way over on top of u and u notice that 5k wont be safe just block.

Usually when I did alot of dashing and random 5k, it did catch the may player of gaurd and made them eat that 5k, because may is a charge partition character the player usually charges and waits for you to get closer. as a result from tryin this out it forces may to play a bit more defensive and u can basically dash command grab or waever u want. Obviously that should be ur execution evertime u dash cuz may 2d or any low attacks will go under the 5k. But none the less still a good way to execute.

I got the idea from watching this clip http://youtube.com/watch?v=8y9i6pgT_MM at 1:20 to about 1:27 basically the whole concept of this

ne ways i just got me excited becuase noe at least theres a better way to deal and counter mays pressure :v:

[dragonrunner400]

Hey I was wondering if anyone has any tips on fighting against Robo-ky. I know what to do on some stuff, but I just want to get better.

[NerdJosh]

Can we get a faust matchup forum to organize alot of this? Also on the robo ky matchup.. find me a roboky player and I'll help you out! ;D

[Zinac]

Can we get a faust matchup forum to organize alot of this?

I don't think theres enough discussion to warrant a new forum. When people start talking more I'll think about it :P

[dragonrunner400]

Also on the robo ky matchup.. find me a roboky player and I'll help you out! ;D

k. do you want me to find a robo-ky player fighting against a faust or just fighting against other characters as well?

[DJ Xero]

Robo owns the air, but you control the ground. Drill Cancel j.H, and keep him out of the air. Don't throw bags, cause he'll use his knee rocket and knock you out of the air. the zone control usually goes something like: Him=x, you=o xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxxxxxxxx xxxxoooooo xxoooooooo xooooooooo That means, get out the meteors and you stomp his air, but if you drop a chocolate, nothing for you.

[dice]

alot of robo kys like jump and throw missle, get under them as quick as u can and punish, theres alot of mix upps faust can do, and jump ib if the missle do get in contact with u, those robo ky command grabs own hard core Even in the air u can bait outthat stupid misle thing he does and air dash FB right away, it has worked alot for me but i only face local robo kys here

[dragonrunner400]

Thanks for the tips guys. This should help me out a bit.

[Anakron]

I'm having plenty of trouble against Venom but I think that's just me being sucky. Is it generally a good idea to bait Venom's teleport? I was thinking I could do that and air b&B. Is there more that I should know when fighting Venom, or should I just avoid getting locked down?

[dice]

I'm having plenty of trouble against Venom but I think that's just me being sucky. Is it generally a good idea to bait Venom's teleport? I was thinking I could do that and air b&B.

Is there more that I should know when fighting Venom, or should I just avoid getting locked down?

post 67 on page 7, my interpretation on the match up

[dice]

Does anyone know any real solid pointers against chip ? Normally I don't really have trouble blocking his attack strings its just that right after an attack string chip always comes back with an IAD or sumthing to start oressure all over again or always constantly jumping poke and jump away. The teleports is another issue, if I see the teleport commig is 2k a good reaction response at all, is it safe.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6_g7eZ-By1A , roughly at 2:17 the faust player grabs chip out of that jump in hs, does anyone ever get this right what it the timing for this?

[jux]

Does anyone know any real solid pointers against chip ? Normally I don't really have trouble blocking his attack strings its just that right after an attack string chip always comes back with an IAD or sumthing to start oressure all over again or always constantly jumping poke and jump away. The teleports is another issue, if I see the teleport commig is 2k a good reaction response at all, is it safe.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=6_g7eZ-By1A , roughly at 2:17 the faust player grabs chip out of that jump in hs, does anyone ever get this right what it the timing for this?

It looks like he IBed the 2nd hit of J.hs then grabbed.

[DOAIsBetter]

I don't think theres enough discussion to warrant a new forum. When people start talking more I'll think about it :P

Not to 2nd guess you but I think a new forum would be nice that way all questions and comments about a match up will be easier to find. On another note I was wondering how Faust should play againest Sol and Ky. Pozerwolf tried to show me how to play againest his Ky but no matter what he plays he decimates me reguardless so I am not to sure what to do.

[Akira]

I think no one has enough love for Faust around the world... or he's too strange to have a particular way to beat the other people. Against Sol: don't be throwed or get hit by BB/GF/GV, bacause you'll lost half of your life by each hit you get(sidewinder FTW =p) Keep him around midscreen, where all of your pokes can hit. If he uses GF jump/highjump. Against Ky: the same way, except that his rushdown is better. The problem is that both Ky and Faust are zonners =p And keep track of all of his projectiles, mainly j.D and Stun Raise(air FB) Although you can pass below the projectiles, don't do this.

[Zinac]

I'll add to Akira's comments. Yeah Ky is a zoner, but your zone game is better. Ky can't do any damage if he doesn't come to you. You have full advantage if you just stay back and throw items. Make him whiff his projectiles be crouching under them at full screen, or jumping over. Everything works. He won't get any damage unless he comes in. Thats when you got him! You have amazing anti-airs and ground normals. On the ground 2HS,5S are your best tools here, and in the air j.HS. Ofcourse they are most safe at their max ranges.

[Anakron]

I'll be playing the legendary XAQshinor (one of the best East Coast players and best Dizzys in the nation) this Saturday. He likes to cross up alot. He'll throw out bubbles or fish and cross up. Most of the time it'll be fish. What can I do to punish the cross up? Or specifically, the crazy mixups?

[Zinac]

2S is a good anti-air against crossups. You just don't let him close in on your, which should be your usual game plan with Faust. Dizzy needs to summon her fish and bubble to put any kind of pressure on Faust. Use this opportunity to close in on her, kill her fish, and punish her for summoning. (Sorry I accidently edited your post, didn't make any changes, just clicked on the wrong thing)

[dice]

Agaisnt ky and sol I would say be careful of when you throw items because they jump alot and as soon as u throw a bad item (candy, chocolate) they like to dash in HS into combo, so try not be predicatable

[Senkei]

Sol is actually not to bad 5-5.

His air game is really good so trying to fuck with him air to air is not good.

1.Anti-airing

this can be tricky at times since his air dash is pretty fast, so time the AntiAir's correctly

Suggested AA's : 2k,5k,6p

this next part is very important and will take a lot of options away from sol...when i was at Final Round i beat 2 very strong sol players(yooyoung,Robot) because of this tactic

2.Ducking/dodging

a.Dodging

on the very last hit of grand viper (if mashed accordingly by the sol player) you can dust the very last hit. (also a lot of sol player's like to RC the last hit to make it safe on block,this will completely own it.)

b.Ducking: you can duck under and punish his...:Bandit Bringer, Bandit Revolver, and Riot Stomp.

you can also avoid some of his air moves esp. if he wants to start his wakeup pressure from the air. if he's too high in the air (which he might be because he's expecting you to block high) you can duck under that shit and grab or punish the hell outta him.

3.Zoning

if i ever get the chance to do this i will post a vid of RF vs PC in accent core and he will give you an amazing outlook on how to defend against sol's rush in from the ground

Items: every float item is your friend(L.Faust,L.Robo) they lock down the air so he's either going to stay there or come in from the ground

Poison's are okay but watch yourself he can grand viper under them

Potemkin: he's always the shit but can sometimes be easily avoided if thrown in a bad area...STAY BY HIM!!

Bombs: good also but sol can easily get the hell away from them so pay attention to were he is going. If he super jumps straight up -214s- if he jumps and dashes at you superjump back and 236p(BombBag)

Hammer/Tarai: good item to stop his surface to air progression

Meteor's:be careful with these cause he might try and get cocky and ether throw,wild throw, or viper.

Physical zoning:Rush from the Ground: 2p then do 2hs...this is great, you will get a great amount of counter hit's from this method and it will def slow his rush in for sure so you can relax and get more items out and try to move in

i'd do more but i'm at class right now...sorry if it's sloppy

[DarthTrey]

EDIT:

lol nvm was a slash vid

this vid Alex?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6IUzDmMIhI

[Senkei]

No the vid im talkin about is a AC 2v2 vid with RF beating PC(so) & Efute(Ma)

[DarthTrey]

No the vid im talkin about is a AC 2v2 vid with RF beating PC(so) & Efute(Ma)

find the vid ya slacker :P