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[Frogster88]

We should start infodumping combos with zero context here

[TarkusLee]

I'm gonna just 66L that.

[Frogster88]

that's real though

[Frogster88]

Why does pact have clash level 7?? Did Avatar really need something more there?

[Frogster88]

Eustace 214H~U is technically -13 on hit and I find this fact kind of hilarious.

[Frogster88]

Wrote an article compiling the patch notes about Ranked into one page. It should explain some of the more stupid parts of the mode... probably...

https://www.dustloop.com/w/User:Frogster88/GBVSR/Ranked

[Frogster88]

After spending a week(?) staring at BBScript, trying to figure out how meter gain and cooldowns work, here are my findings:
As far as I can tell:

• Meter Gain is handled by four commands: "tensionGainOnConnect", "addTension", "addTensionUnscaled", and "tensionUsage"
• "tensionGainOnConnect"
  Translates to percentages as "tensionGainOnConnect" * 12 / 100
  This command is used for describing general meter gain
• "addTension"
  Translates to percentages as "addTension" * 5 / 100
  This command is used for describing meter gain on startup, such as a Skill activating
• "addTensionUnscaled"
  Translates to percentages as "addTensionUnscaled" / 100
  This command is used for describing Ultimate Skill meter gain
• "tensionUsage"
  Translates to percentages as "tensionUsage" / 100
  This command is used for describing general meter loss

 

• Cooldowns are handled differently for projectiles compared to non-projectiles
• All skills have a subroutine defined as "AbilityCoolDown_%s" where %s can be "N", "6", "4", or "2", to describe which cooldown it will take
  Projectiles have additional subroutines in "AbilityCoolDown_%s_DAMAGE" and "AbilityCoolDown_%s_ON_FINALIZE" to describe what should happen on contact and on despawn respectively
• Cooldowns always have a set delay of 3 frames, where they don't start counting until the third frame, e.g:
  ■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■■
  Where ■ is when the cooldown is available, ■ is the initial activation, and ■ is during the cooldown for a move with cooldown "2; 20"
• There are two commands cooldowns are set by: "storeValue: Mem(%s), Val(%s)" and "skillCooldown: %s, %s"
• "storeValue: Mem(%s), Val(%s)"
  First %s is the memory cell to call, second %s is the cooldown to set
  Used for projectiles to override the cooldowns which are set to 999 upon activation
• "skillCooldown: %s, %s"
  First %s is the ID of the cooldown (0 = 5S, 1 = 6S, 2 = 2S, 3 = 4S), second %s is the cooldown to set
  Used for all Skills. Simple cooldowns only use this, while complex (and especially projectiles) use it in addition to the former

[Frogster88]

And I immediately found a contradiction because someone decided to go put the cooldown scripts in an EF file for a projectile and now I have to account for that.

[Frogster88]

I now think meter gain scaling is on a per-hit basis, not a per move basis. Was testing with Eustace, [2]8H by itself is should be 2.0; 4.8, 1.2 meter, but in practice it comes out to 7% with 3F of walking (16 units of unknown scale per frame) to tick it to 8%.

 

Well, it's either that or it's that subsequent hits are scaled differently, in which case, Cygames, why?

[Frogster88]

This is the meter gain script for skills: BBS_CMNEF

beginSubroutine: s32'cmnSpecialAttackGauge'
    modifyVar: (ADD), Mem(423), Val(1)
    ifOperation: (IS_EQUAL), Mem(423), Val(1)
        modifyVar2: (MOD), Mem(418), Val(10000)
        ifOperation: (DIV), Mem(Tmp), Val(1000)
            tensionGainOnConnect: 40
        endIf: 
        else: 
            tensionGainOnConnect: 60
        endElse: 
    endIf: 
    ifOperation: (IS_GREATER_OR_EQUAL), Mem(423), Val(2)
        tensionGainOnConnect: 10
    endIf: 
    ifOperation: (IS_GREATER_OR_EQUAL), Mem(423), Val(6)
        tensionGainOnConnect: 5
    endIf: 
endSubroutine: 

 

From what I can tell, this reads:

def cmnSpecialAttackGauge:
  hitCount += 1
  if hitCount == 1:
    math.mod(var2, 10000)
    if attackType == "projectile":
      tensionGain = 40
    else:
      tensionGain = 60
  elif hitCount >= 2 and hitCount <= 5:
    tensionGain = 10
  elif hitCount >= 6:
    tensionGain = 5

 

Which kind of makes sense? But also mostly doesn't?

[Frogster88]

I no longer believe that is fully correct... Eustace Spreadshot did 2; 4, 0, 1 for its hits, so the last two were less than 1% each