Ginseng Posted February 23, 2010 Posted February 23, 2010 Discuss the Tsubaki vs Noel matchup here. Personal thoughts: Things to look out for: Noel's drives that lead to high damage.6B or 3C into high damage combos5D full invincibility gimmicksHer air vs air options will beat Tsubaki clean on the most part.Her corner combos hurt, so you may want to burst or get out of corner pressure. Things you can use: 22B can guardpoint her drives and C attacks.
The Katz Posted July 29, 2010 Posted July 29, 2010 The drive shenanigans on Noel's part hurt, and ended up making most of my attempts at mix-up wiff for a free CH. 22B seems somewhat reliable when a Noel gets C or D happy, but don't bother charging it during D luls, since the last Noel I played d6B'd me when I tried to get greedy with it. Also not sure if Spring Raid has projectile prop's or not, but iirc it doesn't sooo... watch out for the Noels that think it's still BBCT. Her 2a seems to stuff... many, many things. I'm not sure if her air throw is as good as it used to be, but it can CH you out of anything you try to do in the air for AA, besides retreating j.bb (second part for falling, not sure if that's practical).
Ginseng Posted July 29, 2010 Author Posted July 29, 2010 Noels don't do spring raid on wakeup or whatever, it's a part of their drive enders, so it's not really a threat compared to 5D and 2D fishing/mashing. Never go against Noel in air vs air, she'll probably win with superior jabs or throws.
blueyesdevil Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 How do you punish her sliding shooting move, that one that usually comes after a failed overhead attempt? 5B just whiffs over it lol. and sometimes she's to far away to do anything else.
Shaffler Posted August 18, 2010 Posted August 18, 2010 Jump. Either that or punish it with a move that hits low like 2B.
Kiba Posted November 25, 2010 Posted November 25, 2010 How do you punish her sliding shooting move, that one that usually comes after a failed overhead attempt? 5B just whiffs over it lol. and sometimes she's to far away to do anything else. Quick dash 2a and start bnb combo. Noel's should really stop using that move on block. That, and flying around using air DD. If they do that, please do not block the incoming attack. Rushdown on them and throw them, or use 623C or something. Just watch out she doesn't have 50% meter afterwards. They may go for the Fenrir, but in that case you could bait it out. Just remember if they start the mashing with the drives -22B
CrescentSaber Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 You can punish her 3C with yours too if I'm not mistaken. I've done it a few times and it worked but I can't be sure if it was really a punish or if they just failed to block the low hit. Tsubaki's 623A is also good for knocking Noel out of drive strings. A well timed grab or 2A and 5A work fine too.
Kiba Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 Tsubaki's 623A is also good for knocking Noel out of drive strings. It can be. Unfortunately sometimes it trades with her drives. In this case you need to get used to IB-22B. None of Noel's drives are safe. And please, please, please. If she does air DD, run up to her, don't stand there and take the hit (unless you use 22B, but I'd rather be on the offensive). Air grab her. Attack her with an air unblockable. Something!
CrescentSaber Posted February 4, 2011 Posted February 4, 2011 I do that. If I have 3 or more charges at the time I run up and do 236236D.
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