Nini Heart Posted January 13, 2011 Posted January 13, 2011 Ok I'll try that. Trained to IB the move before the 6B, works well (at least in training, online... well...) Noticed that I can mash 720 before the 6b in blockstring, don't even need IB to do the 720, pretty ugly, but, hell, it works. Then you get screwed when she starts doing 5CC>214B/C and proceeds to make you eat a big fat combo. I played Omnisscythe. Look no further for why you lost >.>
Brice Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) is it just me or the only match up i can't get consistent wins is this one... (i don't play against lambda often, never play arakune and carl so...) oh and i might tell that i play solely against nini heart in offline mode, because i never play netplay. and nini is not bad at this game (with makoto at least :P) my problems are like this: 1) IAD j.B --> j.A xN , i don't know what to do against this jump in and IAD j.B is fast as hell and if you dare do 2C or AC and get baited you're dead.... 4 to 6k into corner into orb oki blablabla.... resets and fun :D 2) if i try to jump (which i should never do) it's a j.B, i get counter hit, i think i'm playing melty blood for the untechable time until the ground or so and repeat the 4 to 6k into corner..... 3) i get hit once and i'm pretty much dead, or have to guess thrice in a row to escape/place a knockdown. 4)can't poke with my normal things, can't do 5D, can't sparkbolt, 4D feels too unsafe..., i don't want to use 3C because nini has gdlk reaction and will punish me hard for whiffing it, same with 5B... 5) he never DP's, but when he do, he get me (but that's my own problem...) 6) i'm still trying to learn her mix ups, but when he's up front jabbing me, stopping half a frame, then either 2B (god this move is fast...), 6B, asteroid vision, jump to bait 360, rince and repeat, i feel defenseless. 7) when he's at that particular distance where i can't reach him with sledge, but he can comet canon, this makes me ;-; 8) rage bursting after her 3c or one of her drive is unforgiving, but i don't get trapped by it anymore, only when i rageburst. it's not totally hopeless, since i can get some wins in and lots of round, but last time i got curious and watched on his xbox the ranking and match up chart for his console (we only play against on his) and the match up tgaer makoto is 2.9 tager - 7.1 makoto D: if you have any strats that do not involve weird gimmicks, but consistent solid play (HAHAHAHA tager.....) that would be appreciated thx :D EDIT : i will play him tomorrow and will certainly record lots and lots of stuff. it will surely help me by seeing my problems and seeking advices from you fellow players : ) Edited March 24, 2011 by Brice
A.X.I.S. Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Solid play? I played Nini and Omni, you just have to patient and know when and where to poke. Parry and 6A beats jump in's easily and her 5B>6B gatling is air tight. If she does 3C you can use 5B/2B/3C and 4D to CH it. If she is Magnetized you can throw out a early 4D to stuff most her moves similar to Noel. Your main objective is to not be in the corner, keep the fight midscreen at all times. Her DP can be backdashed and crouched under and the best punish is usually gonna be a 2B/360 depending on the situation. Your best Friend is IB in this one, you can actually IB 720 2A>stuff. (I don't own Makoto but a Makoto player has mentioned getting IB 720'd off a IB'd 2A.) Play the match safe, you seriously can't afford a loss of momentum and if you get cornered then be patient and don't get hit. Normally Makoto+corner=Death so keep it mid screen. Best I can say.
Nini Heart Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 If she is Magnetized you can throw out a early 4D to stuff most her moves similar to Noel. No. Your main objective is to not be in the corner, keep the fight midscreen at all times. Your best Friend is IB in this one, Play the match safe, you seriously can't afford a loss of momentum Normally Makoto+corner=Death so keep it mid screen. Yes.
A.X.I.S. Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 Magnetized 4D works on Omni's Makoto it would work on everyone else's too.
Nini Heart Posted March 24, 2011 Posted March 24, 2011 (edited) Omni doesn't mash PF reversal or DP. Oh yeah and parrying random 4Ds is not hard. You just used a gimmick. Edited March 24, 2011 by Nini Heart
Astaroth136 Posted March 25, 2011 Posted March 25, 2011 LOL. Tager is so gimmicky, people don't know his options from his gimmicks. Seriously though, fuck this matchup.
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