Top_Cat Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 He's the shadow of the dude named Milln who used to have my respect. Offended.
Grimstar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Could've sworn BB requires you to learn twice as much when it comes to spacing. With the barrier-block system you really need to understand your characters normals and how they are used in any given situation. As for having learning how to manage meter, Kof has BB beat by a long shot. Also, Kof is the fastest game out there currently, even though matches are fairly long. That's true, but I feel like whiffing or push blocking in BB is a lot safer than trying to get out of pressure in KoF. Except KoF does have blowback, but it does require meter. There's also Barrier Burst in BB. Idk, it's whatever. My point is that they're different games, and if you approach KoF like it's BB it won't end well for ya. Not saying that's what you're doing, but it's a theory.
LastStarSaviour Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Yeah, I can understand what you mean. @Middy- He doesn't play BB. A man like that has no true form yet in my eyes, just a hat.
Top_Cat Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 One can not deny the powerful presence of the hat, that is true. then Midnight must play Tsubaki. I really will do this, lol. VERY offended.
Milln Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 Mill is a shadow of a blah blah used to have my respect @Middy- He doesn't play BB. A man like that has no true form yet in my eyes, just a hat. My hat is amazing and composes a lot of my image, I think. People may not know the face, but they'll know the hat. I'm about to not play -anything- after Final Round. You'll hear about it on Monday. I smile whenever I remember this: "Or we could play Suguri!" "Suguri? No, Suguri is just Milln telling you why you're losing while he's doing it and you just feel hopeless. We're not playing that game."
Alphakami Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Read all the drama. I actually think Star's point is being missed. Yep, I just came to a nigga's defence. TrooooL? Everyone had good points. I'm going to attempt to explain mine. Star is salty cuz he dislikes finding himself in the position of a crossup, (amount of ambiguity not relevant) and he can't block it. Well, certainly when he thought he had the tech to actually block it. I think we all know when someone gets salty mid match, they get semi-free quick. No wonder he ain't feeling the game. Really tho, this may be an old man story, about walking up hill both ways in the snow to school and shit, but I do offer a different perspective. The internet has made your technology free. It really has. Try to argue this, and I will crush you. Play the people, play the moment in front of you. You will never reach the finals of a major event if your focus is on the technology, because the player you a facing, that unique moment, it's at least 50% of the equation. Lemme try to back that statement up. At Niamat's Thanksgiving, I raped all your faces in KoF. I'd never touched the game, everyone else had been playing a little, learning those combos.... I played the basics. I never once worried about what I could possibly do, and just did what I could. Epic rape, basically. Nothing personal. That is the part of the game that I swear most of you miss out on much of the time, the playing your opponent side. It exists in the disputed KoF crossup situation. If you are playing your opponent, then you know the first time you eat your meal of 60% damage (possibly seasoned with ambiguity), that one of two things just happened. The knew it was going to be a 50/50 crossup, or they didn't. Simple as that. If they did know, next time you don't ever consider blocking it, you either counter roll out (KoF) or start finding an answer. Can you low profile it? Cant you trade with it? What can be done to this player next time they try that shit? I think those are the questions that will make you better players, instead of just arguing tech. When I played Lee for the first time, it was in CT. I had just gotten back from Chicago's Frost Faustings, where I placed I think 4th? I dunno, it was when I was sharp. I was competitive at that time. I was also a specialist at the Noel/Tager matchup. It was supposedly really bad for Noel. I loved it. I had lost to Mike Z's Tager at the SBO qualifiers months back, and I was still salty. I lost to him because I'd dropped a combo (3 times) that I though I'd understood the tech for, but I didn't. Anyway, I was better than Mike Z at that time in my mind, and I made a few stupid decisions that cost me the match. We can go over the video where I fucked myself if you'd like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aU25KNcj2-8 Anyway, Lee and I had one hell of a fight. He won, and I mean just barely won. I was creating new personal tech on the fly because I knew the game so well, and he was keeping up because his defense and reactions were amazing. It's actually the fight that I 'closed out my competitive career' with, in a way. Really great memories there... What I'm trying to say is that there is an entire other side of the equation to look at, and it should be considered too. I guess it makes me so supremely salty that most fighters are constantly discussed like they are cut and dry simplistic decisions. It's like theory is discussed like application, or vice versa. I'm possibly senile too.... Milln raped my face off in Psychic Force 2012. Most fun I've had in months. CHANDLER! Are you going to Final Round with me?!? Plz respond, I luv U, hearts and dead spikes.
Alphakami Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 "Or we could play Suguri!" "Suguri? No, Suguri is just Milln telling you why you're losing while he's doing it and you just feel hopeless. We're not playing that game." I want me some Suguri of Xcelleration X.
Grimstar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) God damn tad you hipster... ... But srsly. You right. I actually prefer to try to play without dissecting everything about the game... It's always easier to just learn and react from experience than reading frame data and shit. Edited March 1, 2012 by Grimstar
Milln Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 This I say it every time a new game pops up to everyone I tangle with. Experience is something you can't teach, and it's the thing that will win you games.
Seiki Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Good luck to those going to Final Round! Regardless of how you do, I'm proud of ya for going! May you random dp and super to victory!~
Volpe-de-Glacio Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Aw shit, Tad droppin wisdom on some niggas. "It's actually the fight that I 'closed out my competitive career' with, in a way." This saddens me. Do you just not feel that hunger anymore or what?
Jackie Chandler Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 ... You guys are never going to believe this. Guess who has a nasty sinus infection? :/ I've been getting random nosebleeds since Saturday (I had one on my way to pick everyone up in Cookeville for Milln's), and I wasn't sure of the cause. My parents/friends assured me it was just the drastic changes in climate. Well, this morning, I have the most gigantic headache I've ever had, and I'm jacked up on antibiotics. Don't get me wrong- I'm not salty that I didn't sign up for Final Round now- I'm expecting to be bed ridden (besides the trip to the doctor) until some time next week, depending on how serious it is. But damn, it's just the whole idea of it that bothers me. :[
Milln Posted March 1, 2012 Author Posted March 1, 2012 Aw shit, Tad droppin wisdom on some niggas. "It's actually the fight that I 'closed out my competitive career' with, in a way." This saddens me. Do you just not feel that hunger anymore or what? Dude he.... He still competes, man. Why are you asking like he's never going to play again starting tomorrow when he has been since this happened? XD he just does it for fun, now, instead of for the dollah signs. Closed out his career as in like.... Like a cool ending to a movie, where the dude just barely loses in his thing and is so thrilled about the fight that he just lets it go.
Volpe-de-Glacio Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I get that, it just seemed to me that part of the whole fun of it was that constant goal of self improvement and testing your new skills on as many people as possible. Personally, barring an uninteresting selection of fighters in the future, I plan on sharpening my skills and competing until I'm gray and withered. Reaching a level where I can compete in a major is something I really want, and once I get there I don't think I'll ever give it up. Just a difference of values, experience, and perspective I suppose. Who knows how I'd feel by the time I got there. Dollar signs are nice, but if you experience a battle on a level that awesome, wouldn't you be eager for more? Edited March 1, 2012 by Volpe-de-Glacio
Alphakami Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 I'm only non-competitive right now because my life isn't letting me train seriously. I don't have a daily training partner (or even twice a week would be great) who can push me. I'm no longer hungry enough to travel to KY or OH ever other wekeend to clock in 40 hours of gaming in 3 days, and such. It what I feed on when I'm stepping my game up. Now is simply a time to enjoy the games, and it's great. Yes, Volpe, I'm eager for more, but I've had many of those matches. I'm just nibbling right now to keep the cravings manageable. If I can work my way back into a place where I could train as I know I need to, then I'm quite willing to 'get competitive' again. Chandler, get well soon. Naimat, why the fuck don't you go with me to FR late? You just gotta get in the car and ride, pretty much. 420 down I24. It's all a matter of perspective, like you said. It's also fun for me because I get to see parts of myself in most of you guys. Milln is pretty much just like me, just with far fewer unhealthy habits.
Grimstar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 The problem with trying to compete at majors becomes an issue of money and time really... It's harder to get out there and do shit like that with jobs like Milln's :\ LIVE VICARIOUSLY THROUGH US TAD!! I say us, but I haven't been going to shit. So them. USE THEM!
Papstr Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 This shit's gettin' emotional. I might cry. Tad you're so cool dude. Seeing, uh, someone your age I guess (not saying you're old. Don't shoot me lol) is such an interesting breath of fresh air to me, considering video games are always considered a children's form of entertainment or some kinda time waster or whatever. Slowly inching into and experiencing fighting games and its community has certainly changed that view to me. Lot's of older people play this shit, and seeing you chilling with us, mashin' some buttons and doing whatever the hell, having all of us be on an EQUAL level, just feels cool. When I first started up playing Smash Bros (ewww) and shit, I felt kinda weird because I'm so much younger than everyone else. After a while that kinda changed, be it the whole "age gaps get smaller when you get older" or simply because I felt more of an equal to everyone, younger or not. I think I spoke too much. I'll go back to being quiet and saying barely anything lol.
Volpe-de-Glacio Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) I patiently await the day when fighters are on the level of professional sports. Then people who deserve to strut their stuff in a major won't have to deal with shit like this. Also, dear god CT Tager. Edited March 1, 2012 by Volpe-de-Glacio
LastStarSaviour Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Just got home and saw some Persona 4 vids: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XBF1Nws2D4E I'll probably pick this game up since I know I want to main Mitsuru.
Papstr Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Persona Fighter looks pretty slick. Buying it day 1, regardless of if people even play it competitively. It's Persona damnit, and I love those characters. Probably the first and only time I'd buy a fighting game pretty much only for the story lol.
Grimstar Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Eh... it looks cool. I'll try it but I probably won't try to play it competitively. I doubt there will be much going for it in terms of popularity either, so it'll probably die off pretty quick. :/
Papstr Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Grimstar: my thoughts exactly pretty much. Being a fan of Persona 4 and 3 though, I feel like I must purchase it. :D
LastStarSaviour Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 I'm not really focussing on any of that, just going to play it because it looks fun.
Volpe-de-Glacio Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 (edited) Fencer chick looks godlike. Is it just me or does that look exactly like BB with Persona characters and slightly different meter? I prob won't get it myself, but I know Vocal definitely will, so I'll probably end up playing Yosuke. Edited March 1, 2012 by Volpe-de-Glacio
Seiki Posted March 1, 2012 Posted March 1, 2012 Tad what time are you going to leave Saturday...cause I have work till 3... Definitely going to pick up Persona cause it's BB but with Persona Chars. Akihiko is a boss, AND HE HAS A BANG SKIN!!!
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