Middle Tennessee Needs Gaming! Monthly Versus Tourneys - Antioch, TN

[Tophatmoffet]

I approve. Although if he signs up as tophatmoffet, he's gonna owe me an explanation of what a moffet is.

http://bussongs.com/songs/a_horse_is_a_horse_mr_ed_tv_show.php

A moffet's a moffet of course, of course.

3 stars my ass!

Kids these days...

[KOkingpin]

If I see a black dildo and some axe body spray I'm out.

Its ok Bro its gonna be Awesome.

Here's my mother, king, for those of you who wanted to see lulz.

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My hot mom radar went off. Its like a 6th sense.

Fighting game community relationships >>>> sitting in a dark room, pantsless in front of your computer typing to random people.

Are you spying on me? If so, I like it.

Also, Im officially not a fan of SFxT as it stands, but I will give it an actual chance sooner or later. Poison is just too freaking hot.

Edited March 14, 2012 by KOkingpin

[Jackie Chandler]

I need to start power leveling here in the next couple of weeks. I want my Ragna to be in his S-game by the 31st... But I want to start working on a new combo video too... :[

Also, who else is going to Powerup? Since Blazblue WON'T be happening on a school day and I have a friend in town (not including Papstr) that I know wants to go, my attendance is very likely. I'll still probably need to head out Friday afternoon, though. YOU GUYS HYPE?

[Milln]

I need to start power leveling here in the next couple of weeks. I want my Ragna to be in his S-game by the 31st... But I want to start working on a new combo video too... :[

Also, who else is going to Powerup? Since Blazblue WON'T be happening on a school day and I have a friend in town (not including Papstr) that I know wants to go, my attendance is very likely. I'll still probably need to head out Friday afternoon, though. YOU GUYS HYPE?

Practice playing, Getting matchup experience. Forget the combo video.

[Jackie Chandler]

Practice playing, Getting matchup experience. Forget the combo video.

I'm actually pretty comfortable with my match-up knowledge. All I need to do is develop that knowledge into habits and I'll be good. I'm more concerned about getting these Extend combos down pat. Depending on the starter, I've been having a bit of difficulty knowing if I can finish with the standard Dash Under -> 3C -> 22C. :/ I have plenty of time to figure it out though. You all better watch out in a couple of weeks~.

Oh, and something I've been meaning to ask for a little bit. Have you guys put anything into learning any other characters since Extend came out? In helping Tret to learn Lambda, I've grown pretty comfortable in playing her. And since Relius is interesting, I put some effort into learning him a bit, too. As for my past "subs," I'm interested in Hazama but can't do the j214B loop down at all, and Noel's combos have changed so much I haven't even really started to learn them.

[Papstr]

I have a friend in town (not including Papstr)

OH OKAY

[Milln]

I'm not fully understanding the concept of Milln's quick phone post because Milln is too concise on his phone posts.

What i'm saying is, practice and learning about the game and how you can out-think another player and playing against a person is better for your skill than sitting in training mode doing a combo video any time. There's always something else you can learn, whether it's about the character, or about how a particular player performs.

DON'T TALK BACK TO ME, I CAN GET TO THE THIRD LEVEL ON THE IRRITATING MAZE ARCADE GAME. Which the Game Galaxy has, now, and we're going to be going crazy on it all day.

You know what else Game Galaxy has that you might not be in the know about?

The Simpsons.

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I'll let that sink in for a sec and then repeat it.

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The Simpsons arcade game.

Yeah. They have it. Was there supposed to be a tournament on the 31st? I think we're all just gonna be crowding the Simpsons cabinet.

Papstr if you still have Nazi Madness, can you bring it with you on the 31st, please? I wanna play some Akatnazi Mania, especially with Kain coming to visit. Suguri has a high chance to be on deck, as well.

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[LastStarSaviour]

*Sighs*

[Milln]

*Sighs*

Star wanted to play SFXT and sighed when he saw I took it out of the lineup.

[LastStarSaviour]

*Shakes head*

[Seiki]

Woot no SFXT!

[Volpe-de-Glacio]

Just wondering. . . What is MTNG to everyone?

[Tophatmoffet]

Just wondering. . . What is MTNG to everyone?

Why do you ask?

The TN fighting game community is a group of people who get together and play video games. It is a fraction of the fighting game community that is based in Tennessee and as such it reflects a lot of the general opinions of the national community.

e.g. SFxT features a corrupt business practice.

[LastStarSaviour]

Just wondering. . . What is MTNG to everyone?

Hm, if I had to say what MTNG is to me, it would be a place where people play games. Of course, there are some things I want to expand on when it comes to this.

First, i'd say that MTNG doesn't necesarily have the depth required for me to grow as a player. I feel like I gain more from net-play when it comes to interaction with good players and characters in the games that I play. This is disheartening to me quite a bit, seeing as I usually hold almost most, if not every scene to an obligation to enhance the matches for themselves and everyone they sit down to fight since honestly off-line experience is supposed to be the best experience one can acquire. Most of the time I spend learning most of the characters I do in BB is usually so that I can have a good set against you guys and show you what a character is all about and to expect likewise from you all. But idk, just haven't really felt that lately.

Another thing I would add, is that MTN feels so closed-off when it comes to the players themselves. It's hard to say that a lot of my ideas are respected and are at least given a chance before being batted out the window or tossed like trash. I generally feel this is due to the fact that most of the people I encounter have their heads so high up it's hard for them to see how close to the ground they are. Feels like more time is spent on their half trying to crush an argument so deep into the ground that it can never really surface again. This isn't to say they aren't good people, just that they are so dead-set in their ways that it's hard for them to comprehend what being wrong is.

Third, i'd like to say I do feel pretty distant from most of the people at MTNG. I feel like I barely know anyone, not just as players, but as just normal people. It's hard for me to say that I can call anyone there more than aquaintances and only on the surface of that. From most of what i've seen or felt from other scenes, the players are definitely closer than that and knowing this makes me feel meh. I talked to a few people from other scenes and it's easy to say that they're cool friends with one another. I mean, a few of you have indeed known each other for quite a while, I get that. It just feels like as a new guy in trying to get to understand and accept it's hard to pretty much break down that wall that stops me from being just someone who shows up to play games to being friends with everyone there. Don't really like it too much but I guess i'll learn to get over it.

In conclusion, what I think MTNG SHOULD be to me is a place where my friends gather, play games, talk crap, and grow in our endeavors to be competitive fighting gamers. It's just a shame that it's not.

[Grimstar]

Hm, if I had to say what MTNG is to me, it would be a place where people play games. Of course, there are some things I want to expand on when it comes to this.

First, i'd say that MTNG doesn't necesarily have the depth required for me to grow as a player. I feel like I gain more from net-play when it comes to interaction with good players and characters in the games that I play. This is disheartening to me quite a bit, seeing as I usually hold almost most, if not every scene to an obligation to enhance the matches for themselves and everyone they sit down to fight since honestly off-line experience is supposed to be the best experience one can acquire. Most of the time I spend learning most of the characters I do in BB is usually so that I can have a good set against you guys and show you what a character is all about and to expect likewise from you all. But idk, just haven't really felt that lately.

Another thing I would add, is that MTN feels so closed-off when it comes to the players themselves. It's hard to say that a lot of my ideas are respected and are at least given a chance before being batted out the window or tossed like trash. I generally feel this is due to the fact that most of the people I encounter have their heads so high up it's hard for them to see how close to the ground they are. Feels like more time is spent on their half trying to crush an argument so deep into the ground that it can never really surface again. This isn't to say they aren't good people, just that they are so dead-set in their ways that it's hard for them to comprehend what being wrong is.

Third, i'd like to say I do feel pretty distant from most of the people at MTNG. I feel like I barely know anyone, not just as players, but as just normal people. It's hard for me to say that I can call anyone there more than aquaintances and only on the surface of that. From most of what i've seen or felt from other scenes, the players are definitely closer than that and knowing this makes me feel meh. I talked to a few people from other scenes and it's easy to say that they're cool friends with one another. I mean, a few of you have indeed known each other for quite a while, I get that. It just feels like as a new guy in trying to get to understand and accept it's hard to pretty much break down that wall that stops me from being just someone who shows up to play games to being friends with everyone there. Don't really like it too much but I guess i'll learn to get over it.

In conclusion, what I think MTNG SHOULD be to me is a place where my friends gather, play games, talk crap, and grow in our endeavors to be competitive fighting gamers. It's just a shame that it's not.

I can see that. I feel much closer to the SF guys than anyone that plays Blazblue.

But then again, you guys play Blazblue. trollface.jpg

[LastStarSaviour]

Could we please stop with the Street Fighter/Blazblue shit for god's sake? It wasn't funny the first fifteen times you said it and it definitely isn't that funny now.

[Seiki]

In conclusion, what I think MTNG SHOULD be to me is a place where my friends gather, play games, talk crap, and grow in our endeavors to be competitive fighting gamers. It's just a shame that it's not.

I don't like being called "fighting gamer" I prefer "cyber athlete" cause we are E-SPOOOORTSSSS!!!!! /trollloolololol

but in all seriousness I think we are all friends, at least i talk shit, and everyone has improved and helped each other become better players.

To be honest Star you put yourself in a corner and isolate yourself from us. You need to be the one that is more outgoing and engaging if you want to feel like you are part of the group. You don't really talk unless spoken to and you tend to be too serious at get togethers. Those types of behavior doesn't help in making friends.

I think everyone here respects each other's opinions. The fact that people are willing to respond with a thought out argument must mean they took some time to consider and think about what you said regardless of whether you agree or not or if you think he or she misunderstands you. When we respond it's only after we think thoroughly about what you say and i think that's a form of respect.

Everyone here has their opinions criticized to some degree so i don't think it's fair for you to feel like you are the only one.

You say we have our heads held high, but you say this "they are so dead-set in their ways that it's hard for them to comprehend what being wrong is" I don't think wrong is the right word to use here. That's implying we are claiming something a fact when, and i think we can all agree on this, all of our discussions are highly opinionated. And opinions are not right nor wrong. The irony is that you say we are so dead-set in our ways...but maybe you are so dead-set in thinking we are wrong?

But I get what you are saying, when we respond to your opinions and criticize it can come off as elitist or snobbish. But you aren't helping yourself when you overgeneralize, are not clear enough, or include remarks or statements that are just plain insults.

TLDR: You want to get to know someone on a level beyond just games? then just start talking to that person. You want your voice to be heard? Then say what you are thinking but in a respectful manner and accepting of criticism.

Oh and btw, the fact that you havent won a tournament yet and have been bodied by Astaroth, myself, Chandler, Midnight, etc. MTNG has enough skilled players to make you "grow". But one thing you need more than Blazblue skills is a change in perspective of what the community is to you and no amount of netplay is going to help you with that.

[Volpe-de-Glacio]

Interesting. . . My thoughts were just wandering, and that led to me pondering on where others' thoughts took them. I think what Star is getting at is that we don't have the feel of a progressive community. We shoot the shit well enough, but our discussions tend to lack depth, and they don't captivate anyone's attention for more than a few days at most. An issue is hotly debated, then dropped before it's been fully examined.

We've the "most active" scene thread, yet more often than not what we're active in has little to do with the games we play. We talk about what we want to play, what looks cool, etc., but mostly we just joke around. There's no sharing of information, no comparing play styles or discussing tactics, and seemingly no drive to improve as a group. We have that individual drive, but a lot of us have no means to truly put that motivation to good use. We're either too busy with school and/or work, and most of us are too far apart to meet up regularly, which is part of why we're so active online. I've noticed other scenes are posting so little because they're always at one of the members' houses getting games in, and when they do post it's about some tech they're trying to master or some match up they need more experience with in between the jokes and small talk.

Then there are scenes like ours in terms of having a spread out population, but even then their concern is with upping their game as a whole. There are members constantly ready to buff up someone's match-up experience or give a tip on how to deal with this or that. I'm not trying to rag on anyone, but on the whole the few bits of advice I've received have been vague and unhelpful, or otherwise basic tips that I'd find out through experience/ have found out, but haven't gotten around to implementing yet.

We're limited by various factors beyond our control, but I can't help but feel frustrated when it seems like I'm one of the few people who isn't content with our set up. I know I can't expect someone to come up with answers I can't even think of, but at least we can try to compensate somehow.

As for the social thing, I get that feeling too. Sometimes it feels like we're divided into impenetrable cliques. I try to talk to people more, but I'm a paranoid, socially retarded introvert. I don't expect everyone else to make up for my deficiencies, but that's just how I am.

Even so, this is our scene, and I think we can make something more out of it. League of cyber athletes gogogo.

Edited March 16, 2012 by Volpe-de-Glacio

[Milln]

Because we don't talk about it on the forum for weeks doesn't mean it isn't there.

Tennessee thread on SRK all we/they do right now is argue about how stupid/cool SFxT is. Before that, we were talking about SSX. Before that we were talking about Soul Calibur and KOF and Casa Fiesta restaraunt. And then Patrick gets 13th in STreet Fighter, 17th in KOF, Shin Blade gets 5th, Lil Majin gets some other high placing at Final Round. Mekkanic wins some other (out of state I believe) street fighter tournament. Astaroth had that victory in UMvC3 that we all saw on event hubs.

I don't agree with the notion that "if you're not talking about it on the forum, you aren't progressing"

Edited March 16, 2012 by Milln

[Volpe-de-Glacio]

The experience and skill they used to take those places didn't materialize from the aether. . . Some people are naturally talented, and there are various factors at play. They could have experienced other scenes, had frequent sessions with a reliably knowledgeable training partner, or even had someone mentor them. Even then, this avoids the point. Individual progress is not scene progress. Also, note that the only person regularly from our scene that you mentioned is Astaroth.

Edited March 16, 2012 by Volpe-de-Glacio

[Seiki]

Volpe we naturally get better by just playing each other. I think some communities become a little too competitive and it kind of taints the air with an aura of hostility.

I like what we have. We play together seriously and we mess around and do silly stuff.

Like I said to Star, if you find an issue with how we do things you need to act and change it. So spark up discussions ask questions etc. to get people to be as engaged as you want them to be in getting better. Don't wait for others to act on what you tell them is the problem. If you want anything done you have to enact it yourself.

[Milln]

I'm comparing similar situations because that's the material I have. I'm not saying they didn't place for no reason. I'm the biggest advocate of "playing against someone = getting better". Also the entire Nashville crew is pretty good at the games they play because they are practicing with each other. They don't really talk about match ups past a "hey what is this" for a day or two something you just said you are against. I'm -only- refuting the point that "talking about the game on the forum = progress "

[LastStarSaviour]

Naimat, i'm not understanding what you mean when you say I isolate myself from everyone. When in fact, at MTNs i'm always talking to Papstr, Jackie, Middy, Volpe, and anyone else who is playing BB or near me for that matter. Even at Milln's open-house, I talked to Trent, Jackie, Milln, and Tad about a bunch of stuff in regards to GG, BB, and SC5. I try talking to you at times but you put on this "elitist" act that draws me away. You say that I act seriously at gatherings but really if you actually saw me i'm actually interacting quite a bit trying to get to know people.

Next, you say that everyone's opinions are respected and to some degree that may be the case but rarely do I feel like i've walked away feeling this. The reason this is though, goes back to my mentioning of how people have their heads up in the air. When I was posting how I felt a bit about Kof, pretty much I just got told, I didn't know enough, or I haven't practiced the game at all, which was kind of insulting but I learned to deal with it. You say that i'm vague when I posted that problem but in reality it was a simple concept to grasp, luckily I got somewhat of a decent answer that I was half-way satisfied.

As for getting to know people, you say that if I want to know people I should talk to them. This didn't make any sense seeing as I try to do a fairly good job in doing this however, trying to get to know someone shouldn't be a one-way street. If i'm trying to open someone up to get to know them they should be trying to do the same to get a better understanding and level the "playing field" so-to-speak.

I want to talk more on my concept of "growing" as a player. First, i'd like to say that the only person who beats me regularly is Astaroth, and I honestly feel he's the only person I learn from aside from Tad when i'm playing. I'm surprised you'd say I get "bodied" by you, Jackie, and Middy when in fact i've lost very few of the 60 or so matches i've had against you. I haven't even played Midnight in a tournament, and when I fight Jackie or you for that matter in a tournament I have beaten you both, get your facts straight please.

You say that playing each other is what solely makes us better, to this I have to say you are wrong. Any player i've seen making progress in any of the games they play have been on their own time that they put into the lab and their match-ups, never from the actual off-line community (Which makes me feel like we're falling short as a community). I've seen Volpe make a surprising amount of progress in BB and when he was playing Kof. This didn't come from him playing us, but rather learning and understanding things on his own through lab-work (The same applies for me myself). While this is good, it definitely could be progressed at a quicker rate if we all did and understood more. I'd like to say that you talk about if people have a problem with something that they should change it, but that's exactly what Volpe was intending to happen with the comment. At least, it gave me the incentive to speak my mind and get a few things I felt out there.

Now for Milln's argument. For the most part, I have to say that "talking about the game on the forum = progress" is true. However, on this forum, no one actually talks about BB, any of the technology they've discovered, personal match-up experience they've gained or need help with, or overall player strategies. I can't completely pin this on MTN itself when I could be saying more on it myself but you guys have taught be that if it isn't necesarily a character that you liked or played, then it tends to be a bit irrelevant in your eyes. I remember posting a big old collection of data on Noel and how I felt she was as a character but it quickly became nothing but an after-thought very quickly. Yes, we do joke around, and sometimes (very few times) play each other seriously. But I feel though as a player, that if i'm having a problem with something, this isn't the thread or the community to bring it to. The knowledge and willingless to collaborate just doesn't appear to be there in my eyes.

In conclusion, I feel MTN has a lot of things to work out as a whole and trying to bring it to light is a frustrationg process but it needs to happen.

[Volpe-de-Glacio]

I'm comparing similar situations because that's the material I have. I'm not saying they didn't place for no reason. I'm the biggest advocate of "playing against someone = getting better". Also the entire Nashville crew is pretty good at the games they play because they are practicing with each other. They don't really talk about match ups past a "hey what is this" for a day or two something you just said you are against. I'm -only- refuting the point that "talking about the game on the forum = progress "

The problem being that a lot of us don't have that option as I stated before. We're too spread out to meet regularly, so naturally one would assume the meat of community input for improving one's game would then come as a result of net play or forum discussion. The situation is only similar in that they joke around, which any group of friends naturally would. They have less need of the forums than a scene that really only meets once a month. I never said I was against talking about things for only a day or two, I was talking about leaving a discussion half finished. When it's one of the only options we have as a scene, forum discussion beats stagnation.

[Vocal Sabre]

Well, If you don't get on this thread to learn and progress what's the point? This might as well be facebook.