[CSE] Arakune Q&A/FAQ Thread

[AdmiralKorngold]

I apologize if I'm not being clear. Well, I've checked most of the threads, I know how to combo, I know how to pressure, I know his neutral.... I suppose what I'm trying to get at exactly is this; whats the best way to actually approach when you get them in curse? You know so, that the enemy is locked down and I can actually get them into a pressure situation. Like, I just don't get it. Every time I get curse I just kinda hit all the buttons and attempt to move this character across the screen, but he controls so... bleh. lol

If you are having trouble closing in during curse, put them in insect blockstun and you can start a mixup. On a side note, add my psn if you wanna hang out in a Kune lab. Really for anyone who wants to swap recipes, etc. I am searching for >ness in situational curse setups.

[Herbal Grey]

idk if there's a challenge mode thread, but i have a problem with challenge 15. i'm fine with 6d rc 2c release b c d but then the c bug comes out during j.6c when it doesn't come out in the demonstration (it's supposed to come out in the j.236c i assume). is there a way to cancel a bug from coming out? or am i doing something wrong and the c-bug shouldn't be coming out

[kousaka]

im not familiar with the trial mode, but does it go into something like j6c>236c? if so it's probably not a j6c and is actually j6a

[Herbal Grey]

i thought maybe it was just an a before, but it's j.6c and yea j.6c j.6c j.236c release cd etc

[kousaka]

okay just tried it out myself.. i see what you mean~

the key is to not let the D bug do all the hits.. if you wait for all the D bug hits before continuing onto j6c the C bug will get released during the j6c>j6c part. So as soon as the D bug starts to hit continue with j6c>j6c.

make sure you do the 6c set close enough and after the D bug pops them up

the A dive/C dive loop you have to time such that A bug hits first

5c>super>d bug>5c super

-make sure the D bug comes at the very end of the first super.. and the second 5c comes just before d bug pops them back up

Edited March 13, 2012 by kousaka

[takadanobaba]

Hi, long time reader but first post here

Well I've picked up arakune .. firstly I'm trying to get used to the basics so I started the challenges .. and have some specific trouble, may be someone can help me understand where I'm doing things wrong

• I cleared the trial 10 but still have trouble doing it consistenly, my biggest trouble are j2C, 2B , D .. I can't connect D that often, is there a trick ? usually I just mash D as soon as the 2B is done upon landing.
  Second problem, after D, jAA, j ACD .. in the second jump, I can't connect the C, it whiffs very often. any tips ?
  
  
  
• Next is trial 13 .. just the beginning, jC, release CAD, 2C to dive .. eventhough I can combo this, it never register because I can't clear the "no command" after it .. it seems I don't sumon my bugs in the right timing/order ?
  
  
  
• Trial 14, overhead, D, then iad B .. is it just super fast ? or is there a specific method ? .. during D I hold 8 then immediatly tap 66, hold 4B.. I can combo this part only 1 time out of 10 tries.
  
  
  
• About the last trial, I have the same problem as Herbal ..
  C bug is coming too early .. and after the spin it'll not come again ..
  Kousouka, I tried your way .. it doesn't work because if you do j6C during the down part of the D bug, you don't register the "no command". When I look at the demonstration they start j6C after all the up hit of the D bug .. I think we have to sumon C bug really late so we can j6C,6C without the bug to come out .. I tried to do this but I'm not good enough for now haha ..
  
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Thanks for your help.

[Skye]

I've never touched Challenge mode in CSE, but I can help you with some things.

Your challenge 10 hurdle seems like a simple issue with Dive Cancelling, for all the details of DCing correctly, check the OP. The next Challenge 10 issue is range with connecting with j.c.

Try a super jump, or if that doesn't work, do j.a > j.b (1 or 2 hits) > j.c > j.d.

Trial 14 is yes, fast, the j.b link is pretty tight, but doable if you can't manage the j.a link because you're doing it too fast. Do it this way, don't worry, Challenge mode should register it as correct anyway.

6a > 5d > IAD j.a > j.4b

[huey253]

how do you preform the rising jB into combo like here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZdMzq_2aIkY#t=148s

[Skye]

5a j.b > double jump > IAD > j.4b

The double jump and the IAD must be done very quickly. Very technical.

[kotokot]

what about char specific combos? 100% curse combos from 2A 2C rc 5D seems like does not works on all chars. And i lost in last tournament because tager eats too much hits from 236236C(in that match was other strange things, like collider magnet on wall teleport) =(

[Skye]

What exactly is your question?

You posted so much stuff I don't know the specifics of what your problem is.

[kotokot]

all char specific stuff:<

noticed that on some chars sometimes does not works sj.A>j.C>dc 5D and works j.A>j.C>dc 5D. Something like this :<

[Skye]

It's in general in good practice (at least for me) to always super jump. It stabilizes on all characters except Rachel, which may need a j.b (2) in between the combo.

As for the distortion on Tager, you do at times need to change your combo up. If all the hits get in, you can end with 6b > j.6d.

Since CSE character specifics have been more or less out the window. Usually if something went wrong then it's a spacing specific matter rather than the character.

[DemiiPoet]

Shouldn't it be noted somewhere that Arakune's IAD isn't an actual IAD, but instead a quickly imputed air dash? The faq explains how to do the latter, but doesn't clarify that it isn't an actual IAD.

Edited April 20, 2012 by DemiiPoet

[Skye]

Shouldn't it be noted somewhere that Arakune's IAD isn't an actual IAD, but instead a quickly imputed air dash? The faq explains how to do the latter, but doesn't clarify that it isn't an actual IAD.

It's the closest thing to an IAD that he has, and it's the best term to use.

It gets old and tiring on the fingers to always type (especially in combo notations) low air dash/lowest air dash/whatever.

[DemiiPoet]

True.

Another question/observation (sorry for all the nitpicky-ness):The FAQ suggests holding the 5c of Arakune's rekka (6C>5C(hold)>3C(release C + tap 5D) ) while the Technical thread doesn't (6c > 5c > 3c > tap 6d > 6c bug > 6d bug). I'm just learning these, but both seem to work because it's actually the 5c bug that's hitting in the 6c > 5c > 3c > tap 6d > 6c bug > 6d bug combo, not the 6d bug.

Of course, I could be missing something.

[kousaka]

the first one is the correct one~ (in corner tap 6D)

the second one is what a lot of people thought the input was (including me) but it's not correct.. although it will work sometimes (especially in corner)

[DemiiPoet]

Thanks

And another question: What exactly is it about an IAD that makes this this combo work? 5a > 6b > (lowest possible) j.6d > 6b > IAD j.d > 5d

[kousaka]

5a>6b>iad jD>6b>iad jD>5d

the key is you need to jump cancel 6b into air dash, and air dash cancel usually with barrier then jD... it's easier this way since if you air dash cancel with jD it's easy to get j4d by accident

the other key is you can't have too many A hits before it otherwise too much proration and they will tech at 5d usually

[DemiiPoet]

I suppose what I meant was, why wouldn't a normal jump cancel work instead of an IAD?

[kousaka]

you need that falling momentum from the airdash cancel, normally if you do JD on the way up you kind of float up a bit~ if you do it that way you'll prolly still hit with 6b but they wont' be as high for the next part

[Skye]

True.

Another question/observation (sorry for all the nitpicky-ness):The FAQ suggests holding the 5c of Arakune's rekka (6C>5C(hold)>3C(release C + tap 5D) ) while the Technical thread doesn't (6c > 5c > 3c > tap 6d > 6c bug > 6d bug). I'm just learning these, but both seem to work because it's actually the 5c bug that's hitting in the 6c > 5c > 3c > tap 6d > 6c bug > 6d bug combo, not the 6d bug.

Of course, I could be missing something.

After we discovered the new notations, I sort of forgot to replace that in the Technical thread.

My bad.

[DemiiPoet]

5a>6b>iad jD>6b>iad jD>5d

the key is you need to jump cancel 6b into air dash, and air dash cancel usually with barrier then jD... it's easier this way since if you air dash cancel with jD it's easy to get j4d by accident

the other key is you can't have too many A hits before it otherwise too much proration and they will tech at 5d usually

I guess I'll practise this combo too/instead, though honestly I don't see how it's easier, especially with the extra IAD.

Why would I dash cancel with barrier?

Edited May 6, 2012 by DemiiPoet

[Skye]

Why would I dash cancel with barrier?

DC stands for Dive Cancelling.

[DemiiPoet]

DC stands for Dive Cancelling.

I know, but Kousaka said ". . .and air dash cancel usually with barrier then jD."

DC/dive canceling was never mentioned. So I'm wondering why would I dash cancel (I'm assuming IAD) with barrier.