The Philippines Thread #9 - Genesis Beyond the Beginning

[Twilight child]

Tama, kung gusto may paraan, kung ayaw, maraming dahilan. Primarily, nasa tao na yung problema, pero tignan din naten yung sarili naten as a community. Kung titignan nyong mabuti, iba yung atmosphere ng community dati nung first few months pa lang. Napaka accomodating naten, sinisigurado naten na lahat tayo, nakakausap, nakaka one on one lahat ng tao. Isa rin yun sa dahilan kung bakit nag stick ako sa community (bukod sa gutom na gutom ako sa laro at sawang sawa na sa AI at

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XD ) Ngayon kasi, magkaka kilala na tayo sa komportable na tayo sa isat isa, nangyayare, kung may bagong dumadating, di naten masyado nakakausap, nakaka one-on-one, tapos usap usap ng kamustahan na di BB related. Kaya ok rin nung bootcamp kase andun yung one on one teaching part, kelangan din siguro naten ng "familiarizing with everyone" event para naman maka blend in yung mga di masyado pumupunta.

Gaya nga ng sinasabi naten, kung gusto may paraan, kung ayaw may dahilan. Ang solusyon lang dyan eh, bigyan natin sila ng dahilan para gustohin na pumunta, hindi dahil naka all caps rage yung posts naten na pumunta yung mga tao, parang forceful din kase at nagmamakaawang magka audience. Bigyan natin sila ng dahilan para maexperience yung hype :D

Pangalawa, Aesthetics palang din kase ng BB, ang maa-attract na eh yung tinatawag ng karamihan na Weaboo audience. Parte na ako sa audience na yun. malamang di ko nilaro yung BB kung puro maskuladong mga Manong tong game na to. Anime-ish designs, paniguradong hatak nyan eh anime fan. Si Mori na mismo nagsabi nyan. Wala namang problema dun, ang problema lang eh yung tipikal na mindset ng anime fan sa pilipinas. Usually (not generalizing, I love weaboos) mahiyain, sa internet lang may angas, shut in lang, elitist, unsociable unless animu topics. again, hindi lahat ah, stating this because these guys can have the potential to be great players, given that they develop passion for this game. not saying that we should go and babycare this particular audience, let's just not be hostile towards them. :3 Sana nga lang eh di puro theory fighting ang gawin, at sumugod sa casuals mismo.

woo, ang haba na pala neto, kaya parang gusto ko talaga gumawa ng article about community related shits / why stick towards playing this game and stuff xD

Anyway, patuloy lang tayo ng pag hype! Marami pang pagkakataon para maka diskubre ng mga dedicated players. Sana lang eh bukas o mamaya 10 mins later eh magpakita na sila )

[McArthur]

weird phenomenon nga lng eh noh, ung BB d trip ng iba pero skullgirls trip, aesthetics wise ah XD, may Litchi, Makoto naman sa BB to fill their... "round" needs HAHA may starbucks combo din ung 2 na un HAHA

[calendula]

May bounce daw kasi,

pero ewan ko , dami naman din tumatalbog na bewbs sa AH3,

then again di nga pala sineseryoso yun AH3,

[Twilight child]

May "Indie Love" kase na advantage ang Skullgirls. + MVC2 Style na trip ng karamihan + Mike Z from a community of fighting gamers ang nag develop, malamang may leverage yan sa niche game such as AH3. Granted, I love skullgirls not because of "Indie Love", it's because its a solid game that is being cared for by developers.

Pero mas matimbang parin si Clarice, Scharlachrot, Nazuna para saken xD

but yeah, BB

[lolokoa]

ika nga sabi nila pag gutom lahat ng pakaen masarap

lalo na pag galing SFxT

well solid naman talaga ang skullgirls

para yun nalaro ko yun Persona 3

eh kakagaling ko lang sa FF12...........

so ayun

Edited May 8, 2012 by lolokoa

[D i X]

Haha! Narinig ko sa iba, nahihirapan daw sila sa BB kumpara sa ibang FGs. Mga dahilan nila,bibliya pa daw kelangan basahin, mga ganun haha!

Mga gamers ngayon, kung nasaan ang hype doon din kasi sila sasakay....eh daming lumalabas na laro dyan, ayun nakakalimutan nila tuloy paglalaro nila ng BB or ng ibang FGs. Masaya nga ako at kahit papaano may mga 20+ tayong peeps na nag-stick pa rin sa BB.

Edited May 8, 2012 by D i X

[lolokoa]

nakita na ba nila ang top tier video ko

masuwerte nga ngayon nakalabas na agad yun frame data or kung anu info nakalabas

dati rati wala ganun

plus ganun naman sa karamihan ng FGs

may babasahin ka talaga

Edited May 8, 2012 by lolokoa

[D i X]

Mga iba lang din tamad pag-aralan ng matindi ang BB hahahaha!

Edited May 8, 2012 by D i X

[calendula]

Awwwwts

Kaw kaya maging tamad BEEEEEEEEEEEN,

Hirap din kaya,

[Michi]

Ah, I guess I didn't explain some things properly, will do.

What I meant about the 1:1 session about people, we can make it as a group. I don't think the people would suddenly pick all 20 characters in one go and most people usually stick with the basic characters such as Jin, Ragna or maybe Tager idk. More people went to the bootcamp thinking, oh hey maybe I can ask some tips about how things go! Yes, I do understand that people won't want to go because they're shy and all that shit but the main point of that is for us to actually do something about it and let them leave their safety zone. Boot camp is one of the best ideas I can think about for things like this.

If we have casuals/tourney without offering any kind of in-game tutorial, people would think, ay ano ba yan hindi ko naman naiintindihan ano nangyayari. Parang ang hirap naman tong game na to, next time nalang ako maglalaro. Etc. Trust me; we were all like that but that's exactly why the regulars are still around, we've leveled up altogether to the point that we even know what their kinks are while playing. 1:1 may sound a bit too strict but yeah, if you guys observed, the new players actually watched the other 1:1 so it's basically 1:3 or 1:group. The new players are still looking for a character that they can be comfortable with so it's our part to guide them. It sounds like some cheesy shit but that's how it is; it's our responsibility as people who know that game to help them. Once they jump into the game, bam, we get regular players. That's how it really goes guys. Don't get me wrong.

If you hear other people's opinions on BB, they say that it's harder compared to some other games because BB is a combo-heavy kind of FG. I'm not 100% familiar with other FGs so I'm not one to say it but BB is that kind of game where 'if you know a combo, you're okay. if you don't then gtfo'. I mean seriously, have you guys seen a video where a character doesn't have any combos? Even though you know footsies or some shit like that, combos still play a large role in BB. This is why we're offering tutorials for them, it's to motivate them. Motivation is what gets you started, habit gets you going.

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Okay, so final na ung sa Nisemonogatari? Mini-tourney? Y/N? Game din ako sa F2P but it's up to you guys for that. We can keep it as funds for future stuff (booths and whatnot) but yeah, up to you.

[atdsutm]

Tournament

I think theres nothing really wrong about the frequency of tournaments being held by BBPH. I think the amount of tournaments we are having are normal. The problem stems from people having more priorities than BB, in which we cant blame them for having other IRL things. We should not forget that some of our members are coming from Soul Calibur, Touhou, NARUTO and etc..... Thus making them spend their money primarily on something else and not just for BB. I have nothing against peeps who spend on something else. The cost of the tournament though is pretty cheap already (pero mahal para sa akin lol). If I had enough money I would have participated in every tournament possible.

Some people don't cum primarily because of the fear of losing (including me) and lose hope in competing and seeing that the same batch players win in those tournaments. The only thing we could probably do is encourage them to cum.

Or the reason of the cost of transportation and etc. Add the cost of the even ast well. Some people I heard would even go if its sponsored or just maybe if BBPH will grow very big and famous (which annoys me ultimately). The only solution I could think of is to widen the price bracket and increase the top 1-3 price, at the same time to decrease to cost of participation. So people might go just to reach top 5 for a small price.

Boot camp and Casuals

I would suggest holding more boot camps to encourage players to learn and get better, but we also need to do this systematically and not decide on the spot. Firstly we should also know who are cumming to the event that we could teach. Corresponding people who has the same main character as the dude/girl obviously should facilitate them, but we should have other people along help too. In terms of what to teach, it should be something like: basic stuff, combos and some character matchup. We also let them play first and see what they lack in these 3 aspects. And if we fight casuals versus them we should talk to them and help them improve.

This might help us manage the time much better as well and give some room/time for casuals. And also we should converse with them, ive noticed that there are few people who actually talked to them from time to time.

About Casuals, Im more concerned about the people who only go to BBPH at certain events. Maybe we should offer some food etc... to entice members to come LOL

New members from other FG

We could explain that it is just a different game and just say it is easy to play it (even if its not) and create similar analogies as other FGs. Although its harder for us to gather new members that will play the game at a hardcore level, because most of them are just otaku and play BB because of anime etc. Not to mention it is also hard for us to acquire new members from established fighting game because of they are already good in that game with a bigger community. The best solution at the moment is to keep our new members and turn them into hardcore players and welcome other players from different FGs by teaching them the game etc.

Im getting the feeling that we are losing new members because of the skill level of our best players and we usually beat them by a large margin at casuals and thus scaring them off.

[D i X]

Sa Natsumono, ang boto ko dun kahit hindi na tourney. Baka matakot mga tao sa tourney...BWHAHAHAAHH! I'd go for P2P na booth. Maganda kung makakuha tayo funds para makatulong tayo sa isang mabuting hobo. :P

Teka, yung sa Ozine ba na P2P, musta nangyari?

[Michi]

Im getting the feeling that we are losing new members because of the skill level of our best players and we usually beat them by a large margin at casuals and thus scaring them off.

I've been trying my best to avoid saying this but it's true. Our skill level as a whole has improved especially comparing it back to CS1 making the level barrier higher for new people. Instead of getting them to idolize the game, they get scared seeing that they don't stand a chance at all. And yeah it's true, BB's audience is different. I mean look at me, I like BlazBlue not entirely because of the game. :v

As for Natsumonogatari, I'm game with the P2P system. The entrance ticket is 150 and I'm sure people would love to try out the games. How many stations are confirmed again? I didn't read anything about it yet or I'm just being blind. :v

Is the event this Sat, confirmed? Feel free to use the poster Ry made. c: Also ugh, trying to post on P2D, dunno what exactly but will try to.

[McArthur]

i salute the new players na naamaze and naawaken ang inner BB juices for improvement nila upon seeing our "top players play" hehe though i know that's not the case, majority really are scared, anyway nkikita nyo naman sa FB may nagrerequest uli ng training hehe so dating gawi uli sa sabado! game ba?

sino nga pala may PSD ng salty saturdays? pagawa for this sat! HEHE =)

[lolokoa]

can't stop humming this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLlJD7EAsYg

[lolokoa]

btw inde na tuloy yun casual sa Dtier sa sunday

[calendula]

Teka, yung sa Ozine ba na P2P, musta nangyari?

Sa ibang group yun, at wag mo na alamin dahil baka maging issue pa.

Kaya nga pala free to play ang naisip namin ni allan kasi,

Parang free taste lang yan ng delicius feeds sa mall. mas gugustuhin mo subukan dahil libre,

pag may patong kasi may chance na mag dalaang isip, plus konti lang units.

totoo na kelangan naten ng funds para sa future events, pero pass kami sa p2p sa natsumono.

pero kung majority gusto ng p2p eh your call.

[D i X]

Wat happen? Why canceld sa sunday?

[McArthur]

kng knti lng units i think hindi optimal mag P2P, ako boto ko Free play sa Natsumon

[lolokoa]

opens the site

no new pending drafts

well ganun talaga.......

so anu balita maliban sa sankatutak na wall of text

at nawala yun wall of text ni hakase last page

Edited May 10, 2012 by lolokoa

[lolokoa]

Noon ako ay anim na taon gulang Nakita ko ang isang maningning na larawan sa isang libro, na tinatawag na Totoo Kuwento mula sa Kalikasan, tungkol sa kauna-unahan kagubatan. May nakita ako isang larawan ng sawa na nilalamon isang hayop.

Sa libro ito sinabi: "mga sawa pagka-lunok ang kanilang biktima ng buong, pagkatapos nun hinde sila makakagalaw at kelangan nila matulog ng anim na buwan para matunaw ang kanila kinain.

Ako ay nag-isip ng malalim , pagkatapos ng ilang paglakbay sa gubat at sa pamamagitan ng may kulay ng lapis ako naka-guhit ng akin unang obra-meastra.

Pinakita ko to sa mga nakakatanda at tinanong ko sila kung natatakot sila

Subalit sila ay sumagot: "takot? Sino naman ang matatakot sa isang sumbrero?"

Akin drawing ay hindi isang sumbrero kundi isang saw na nakakain ng isang elephante.Dahil hindi na-intindihan ng mga matatanda gumawa ako bago na naka-guhit sa loob ng sawa ang elephante para malinaw na makita.

Ang sagot naman ng mga matatanda ay isang pangtabi ko na pag guhit ng looob or labas ng isang sawa at gamitin ko na lang oras na yun para sa Heograpiya, Kasaysayan, aritmetika at bararila.Ito ang dahilan sa noon ako ay anim na taon ako ay sumukot maging pintor. Nawalan ako ng gana dahil sa kabiguan ng mga unang dalawang drawing. Ang mga matatanda ay hinde maintindihan ang anumang bagay sa kanilang sarili, at nakakapagod sa isang bata habang buhay ipagliwanag mga bagay sa kanila.

Pagkatapos noon ako pumili ng ibang propesyon at natutunan ko pumiloto ng isang eroplano. Ako ay nakalipad na sa iba't ibang parte ng mundo at sa totoo lang nakatulong ang geograpiya sa akin. Sa isang sulyap ko lang makilala ko ang China mula sa Arizona. Kung ang isa ay maligaw sa gabi, tulad ng kaalaman ay mahalaga.

Sa kurso ng buhay ko ako ay nakakilala ng marami magagaling na tao. Nakisama na ako sa mga nakakatanda. Kilalang-kilala ko na sila at hindi pa rin napabuti ang aking opinyon sa kanila.

Tuwing ko makikilala ng Taong sigurado malinaw ang mata, sinusubukan ko ang eksperimento ng nagpapakita sa kanya ang aking unang drawing, kung saan laging ko tinatago. Gusto kong subukan upang malaman ang pag-unawa ng tao na yun. Subalit, kahit sino pa siya palaging sinasabi:

"Isang sumbrero. Yan"

Pagkatapos hindi ko pag-uusapan sa kanya ang tungkol sa mga sawa,gubat, o mga bituin. Pinapababa ko lang aking sarili sa kanyang antas.Makipag-usap na lang ako sa kanya tungkol sa Eroplano,sa golf, sa pulitika, at sa mga salu-salo. At ang matatanda ay lubos na matutuwa makilala makatwirang na tao.

inde simple ang pag translate noh?

Edited May 10, 2012 by lolokoa

[calendula]

Isa sa mga paborito kong libro :v

Akalain mo na nag babasa ka din pala ,

[Cokesakto]

Gotta be fair...

Boa constrictors are hard to draw man.

[Cokesakto]

Also yes, The Little Prince is the best book.

[McArthur]

dba isang korean girl star si BOA? =)