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Can someone help me with this combo? I'll highlight the parts I screw up.

2A > 5B > 6B > 623C > 22D > 5C > input 2]D[ > jump forward j.B > j.C > (2D hits) > 236B > j.2C allecan > sj.B > j.2C > j.B > dj.B > j.C > 8D > j.2C > allegretto > 8D

The timing right after Cantabile is so strict it's unbelievable (For me...anyway) And I can do the full set about 1 try out of 10. I do the teleport either to late or I screw up the actual input in time to land the 5C + 2D. It's driving me nuts as I really want to get this combo down. Could someone give me any tips/tricks/advice on how to 22D > 5C > 2D?

At the minute I'm sacrificing all this glorious meter gain and damage and simply going into CON, Which I don't want every single time. I JUST WANT TO BE SWAG.

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try to get the 623c 22d part as early as possible. l would recommend doing just the two attacks as a way of practice.

once you can do that a good few times, after 22d, continue to hold d, input 5c, j.b. immediately after j.b, press 2 and release d quickly and then j.c.

the second bit. you want to press and hold d as you do j.2c, j.b, dj.b. like the 2d combo above, you want to press 8d immediately after the dj.b, and j.c normally after.

l haven't gotten j.2c 8d allegretto part yet either. after the first 8d l just go for oki as the foe hits the ground.

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i am so so SO salty right now because i have ryuusei's gamertag but it's a 0 bar connection

the matches would have been really good for the video thread

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Ryuusei on netplay? That would've been interesting to watch. What's his PSN/XBL?

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The Hakumen matchup it damn frustrating. Since picking up Carl I never noticed his sheer lack of health due to the fact I never got hit...But...Raw Zansetsu in the corner. It was like 70% of my health after the combo.

DAMN

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Yes...feel our pain lol.

I just tried stepping back into BB after a couple of months of just Tales of Graces and Skullgirls and I'm definitely out of practice. Feel like I have to start from the basics, it's pretty frustrating.

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The Hakumen matchup it damn frustrating. Since picking up Carl I never noticed his sheer lack of health due to the fact I never got hit...But...Raw Zansetsu in the corner. It was like 70% of my health after the combo.

DAMN

Dude i know that feeling, now in BBSEX that matchup is really tiresome. At least in Cs2 you could kill him with one hit, but in Sex the only safe UB that we have, is the one that consume at least 50% heat. I hate randoms counter....

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I find Anima surprisingly useful against Hakumen if not slightly gimmicky. One Anima setup that you could try is to do the standard DP-safe UB setup but instead of j.AA, jB+3D, just do j.AA, Anima for a D counter bait. Granted, I haven't tried this out in an actual match yet but I'm sure it'll get a lot of people.

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I have 13 friends who I play BB with every day more or less. 7 of them Main Hakumen. ;_;

On another note. I use Anima now and then in the Tager Matchup, other than that I never really touch it. I just abuse Fuoco Oki because Netplay is free to it.

5B JC'd into j.2C Allecan is monstrous haha, the damage / mixup you get off something that good is tarded'

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anima in a tager match up is asking for ada to get killed

as for haku, he is annoying in CON which is why i try to avoid it as much as possible, running away seems like the best option for this match up for me

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l really like anima and honestly dont see why it dosent get used often, in terms of conditioning the foe a certain way (like to jump at a particular time... and eat a brio). it reminds me of elizabeth's command grab from p4u

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I can't get any random stranger to get hit by anima but my friends will get hit by it if I'm in CNO. They'll literally run into it when they think they've caught me offguard. Otherwise I can sometimes get a hit in with it if my opponent in the corner in NCO. You can do it while you try to mixup for a bit and Ada's walking behind you. Once she's about to reach her max distance you can jump out and if you're lucky, you can either get a throw counter, or a pink throw where even if it doesn't hit, you have an easy out to restart some pressure.

Admittedly, this has only worked twice, so it's not really a good strategy to use lol.

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>.> Soo am i the only one who burst specific moves so we can Anima into 6k corner combos.... IE Vs Jin Burst before his gale hits & Anima during animation. It puts them in the corner for 6k combos

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>.> Soo am i the only one who burst specific moves so we can Anima into 6k corner combos.... IE Vs Jin Burst before his gale hits & Anima during animation. It puts them in the corner for 6k combos

Not at all. I do that all the time.

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Not at all. I do that all the time.

XP U should have told temp that,, but tbh =< iv found no use for it besides that, its like i mean he yella ANIMA!!!!!!! like a fucking tard so its kinda hard to to grab someone... & it takes alot of her HP just for it to be guard broken..... i say it needs to be un-techable for it to be useful & just make it cost 3000hp instead but hey.... i dont make the rules

wow i said guard broken..... i ment balanced

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can you imagine carl if he didnt shout any of his move names?

#hellaop

it would also seem funny

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XP U should have told temp that,, but tbh =< iv found no use for it besides that, its like i mean he yella ANIMA!!!!!!! like a fucking tard so its kinda hard to to grab someone... & it takes alot of her HP just for it to be guard broken..... i say it needs to be un-techable for it to be useful & just make it cost 3000hp instead but hey.... i dont make the rules

wow i said guard broken..... i ment balanced

If you do it during certain combo segments (ie. Jin's DP loop, Hazama's 623D), they can't tech it since they'll get throw countered. Even then, anima's not your only option as brio and fuoco (careful with that one...) can also work.

IMO, the most balanced way to buff Anima is to give it real superarmor but I'll also happily take an untechable anima.

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I find Anima surprisingly useful against Hakumen if not slightly gimmicky. One Anima setup that you could try is to do the standard DP-safe UB setup but instead of j.AA, jB+3D, just do j.AA, Anima for a D counter bait. Granted, I haven't tried this out in an actual match yet but I'm sure it'll get a lot of people.

I also try to do that but, if Hakumen jump or spam one of his special moves with TK a motion it will beat Anima and is very probable that you will eat at least 3K dmg.

What i also do is: that instead of doing 2]D[ + 6B, i do 623C (Cantabile) + 2]D[. If he tries to do a D counter move or jump it will eat the cantabile.

anima in a tager match up is asking for ada to get killed

as for haku, he is annoying in CON which is why i try to avoid it as much as possible, running away seems like the best option for this match up for me

Why would you use Anima in a matchup that isn´t against Hakumen or Relius. Against Tager just use the other options.

Against Hakumen i prefer to wait patiently and trying to get him in CoN. After that, instead of doing reset i just take the dmg amd try to play safe.

can you imagine carl if he didnt shout any of his move names?

#hellaop

it would also seem funny

Well... i always use muted Volante. Hell, when you learn how to do it properly it so damn funny. Very usefull if you mix it with Alledashing xD.

Is like:

Opponent: Nice! now Nirvana is in the corner, away from Carl! i will body him until i kill that motherfucker.

Carl: Input a muted Volante

Opponent: Eat this attack and die fuc$%$# Carl!!!!...... WTF!!! WTF!!!!!! i got hit by Volante!!! I DIDN'T HEART IT!!!

Carl: Take at least 3k or more dmg and laugh inside xD

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If you do it during certain combo segments (ie. Jin's DP loop, Hazama's 623D), they can't tech it since they'll get throw countered. Even then, anima's not your only option as brio and fuoco (careful with that one...) can also work.

IMO, the most balanced way to buff Anima is to give it real superarmor but I'll also happily take an untechable anima.

This is wat i ment when i said earlyer that i burst & Anima

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ok it's time to update the match up thread, so if anybody wants any specific matchups to be updated first please put them down because ik want those to be done first to help everybody

so far it looks like

Hakuman

Tager

Tao

Noel

are the ones that need the most analysis

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