[P4A] News & Gameplay Discussion

[Chazmobile]

The page on the arc sys site mention changes to yosuke, but I have no idea what it's saying. Maybe they're sill updating the changelog?

I noticed that too, seems to be changes to his 5a/2a and his 'payment leg' attack (google translate lol, i'm assuming it's his moonsault dash or transform ripper) as well as a few tweaks to Sukuraja.

Hopefully nothing too drastic.

I dont know much about Yosuke, but my gameplan in arsys games is to have decent mobility, get knockdowns, set something or throw something and then go for mixups (like Millia or setups like carl) and then repeat. So idk, I asked in a stream yesterday and they said Naoto =/

Well Yosuke is like Chipp on crack for mobility, and he does have the ability to control space with his well-above average normals and speed. Unfortunately he doesn't get straight knockdowns too often but his persona 'D' attack where Jiraiya rushes forward sets up for mixups and helps him get in even easier.

I suppose if you want the whole knockdown>setup>oki then Naoto is probably the best choice.

[Starlight777]

There's still more changes? I hope Yosuke retains his pressure game. He's actually quite fun to watch.

[Chazmobile]

There's still more changes? I hope Yosuke retains his pressure game. He's actually quite fun to watch.

From what google has badly revealed to be it seems that he will be effectively the same. There seemed to be no changes to his godlike 5b or persona normals so his pressure should be just as awesome, providing the 5a/2a changes aren't drastic. If the 'payment leg' nerf I saw was to do with transform ripper startup/recovery I would be fine with it, the move is kinda silly anyway

Also, from what I managed to glean from the Sukuraja changes, it seems as though he got more jump-cancellable normals during it. Even more pressure and mix-up tools!

[Dakanya]

The page on the arc sys site mention changes to yosuke, but I have no idea what it's saying. Maybe they're sill updating the changelog?

oh yo there are changes. it's even in my mirror. sorry about the misinformation guys, i haven't slept in forever and probably gonna end up staying like 36 hours at this rate. i'm over my headache now though, i'll go fix the yousuke changes.

[Zeik56]

I don't know how to feel about those Akihiko changes. I mean, the thunder fist buff is nice but the fact that it still goes away when you get touched keeps at being barely useful. I don't see why he warranted any nerfs at all tbh, especially to his persona attacks (of which he has two, and only one is useful).

If that recovery nerf to j.C means he can't combo off CH anymore then he's pretty much boned. That was one of his best tools and I can't see the few buffs he got making up for it. :/

[Chazmobile]

If that recovery nerf to j.C means he can't combo off CH anymore then he's pretty much boned. That was one of his best tools and I can't see the few buffs he got making up for it. :/

True dat!

Edited April 26, 2012 by Chazmobile

[Starlight777]

So Akihiko got Makoto-fied? Dammit Arcsys, why do you hate boxing characters so much?

[Dakanya]

ok i'm gonna call it here and not going to touch the translation anymore. i didn't really look at naoto cause i don't know that char but i'm sure it's already up elsewhere and i think my misinformation/mistranslations should be fixed for the most part... need to do some other stuff and maybe take a nap. late

[Yukikaze]

Why does ASW always buff the better characters

Im guessing theres gonna be more patchs in future anyway....

[Chazmobile]

ok i'm gonna call it here and not going to touch the translation anymore. i didn't really look at naoto cause i don't know that char but i'm sure it's already up elsewhere and i think my misinformation/mistranslations should be fixed for the most part... need to do some other stuff and maybe take a nap. late

Thank you so much for the translations dude!

[Kiba]

I do not think I can comment on Mitsuru and Chie much. We're only seeing them at face value, and it's not like we have the opportunity to actually play and experiment. Chie 5B FC was bound to go anyway, and I'm quite unsure of why they would buff the counter but hopefully we'll find out soon enough. Mitsuru's 2D buff is good, and I think it's deserved tbh. I figured it was somewhat situational to get 2D to combo because of the angle, but that should definately be happening less often now. The changes do seem like a change in the right direction, well, most of them anyway. I cannot comment for Akihiko since I do not know him that well but the JC nerf seems pretty hard. I think they're lucky though, because Mitsuru/Chie could've actually been hit much worse.

I must say I am quite pleased with the change to Elizabeth because that's all I wanted. Now C/D versions of Agidyne are viable, making all of her moves useful in some way. I cannot complain, and I didn't expect her to get any nerfs (or hard nerfs if she did). Looking forward to seeing those new gameplay matches.

Also Chaz you're so salty. Look man, you have Yosuke, and secondly, CSX Tsubaki. You've gotta endure it.

Dakanya I feel you've done more than enough anyway haha so thanks!

[Chazmobile]

I do not think I can comment on Mitsuru and Chie much. We're only seeing them at face value, and it's not like we have the opportunity to actually play and experiment. Chie 5B FC was bound to go anyway, and I'm quite unsure of why they would buff the counter but hopefully we'll find out soon enough. Mitsuru's 2D buff is good, and I think it's deserved tbh. I figured it was somewhat situational to get 2D to combo because of the angle, but that should definately be happening less often now. The changes do seem like a change in the right direction, well, most of them anyway. I cannot comment for Akihiko since I do not know him that well but the JC nerf seems pretty hard. I think they're lucky though, because Mitsuru/Chie could've actually been hit much worse.

I must say I am quite pleased with the change to Elizabeth because that's all I wanted. Now C/D versions of Agidyne are viable, making all of her moves useful in some way. I cannot complain, and I didn't expect her to get any nerfs (or hard nerfs if she did). Looking forward to seeing those new gameplay matches.

Also Chaz you're so salty. Look man, you have Yosuke, and secondly, CSX Tsubaki. You've gotta endure it.

Dakanya I feel you've done more than enough anyway haha so thanks!

Aw man looking back at that post I can say it's horrible what running on 0 hours of sleep + being ill can do to your mood. Shit I never knew I could get that mad!

Let me uh *ahem* quickly take that down.

Edited April 26, 2012 by Chazmobile

[AchedSphinx]

I always have an affinity for the robot girls, so I'll be sticking with Aigis for this one. She doesn't really play like a zoner, maybe mid-range like Lambda, seems pretty fun. Though I wonder if they'll add any console exclusives. If they do, Aigis' sister would be an interesting choice.

[Hecatom]

Why does ASW always buff the better characters

Im guessing theres gonna be more patchs in future anyway....

hmmm, wut?

they always nerf (kinda harsh) the tops for their next iterations, contrary im quite surprised they didnt went hard on them (yet)

[Zeik56]

I always have an affinity for the robot girls, so I'll be sticking with Aigis for this one. She doesn't really play like a zoner, maybe mid-range like Lambda, seems pretty fun. Though I wonder if they'll add any console exclusives. If they do, Aigis' sister would be an interesting choice.

They already have her sister in the game, twice. If you mean Metis then don't count on it, they already wrapped up that sub-plot with The Answer and it wouldn't make much sense for her to return.

[Diveman]

hmmm, wut?

they always nerf (kinda harsh) the tops for their next iterations, contrary im quite surprised they didnt went hard on them (yet)

not sure if this is gonna be a game that might have a sequel or something. But it would be nice if they updated it in 1 more year, I just don't want updates every week so that we never get to see chars true potential lol

[Hecatom]

well, they are not netherrealm, so im not worrying about it

[Bloodcrave]

seems like niconico is going to stream some p4u tougeki matches on April 29 12PM JST (UTC +9, April 28 11PM EDT)

hope we see some big names like kaqn, shadow etc

[AchedSphinx]

seems like niconico is going to stream some p4u tougeki matches on April 29 12PM JST (UTC +9, April 28 11PM EDT)

hope we see some big names like kaqn, shadow etc

That's awesome. I hope a few get uploaded to youtube :D

[Yukikaze]

SBO

Hopefully all characters will be represented.....

[GenoWhirl]

Akihiko becomes blind during his story mode. Calling it

[Bloodcrave]

http://live.nicovideo.jp/watch/lv90652343?ref=top&zroute=index

started already

[Hecatom]

not sure if this is gonna be a game that might have a sequel or something. But it would be nice if they updated it in 1 more year, I just don't want updates every week so that we never get to see chars true potential lol

it was stated before, that they want to start a fighting game series with p4uma, so i can see the game getting revisions on the future

[DevilTrigger]

it was stated before, that they want to start a fighting game series with p4uma, so i can see the game getting revisions on the future

I don't remember hearing this. I know it was said they'd update P4U/A regularly, but nothing about starting a new series/chain of games. Of course if it sells well, that could certainly happen.

[Soriphen]

I don't mind downloadable updates, but please, no updates in the form of 40 dollar discs every year.