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Okizeme is awesome. This thread is about how you win the match after a knockdown in AC+R

For starters I think we just list whatever we can pick up in the videos before we can actually get hands-on experience

Posted (edited)

Dizzy - AC+R: Okizeme / WIP

Notes: High/Low Mixup (IAD Mixup)

High = AD j.2S > j.H

Low = land > 2K


[Corner Okizeme setups]


PP Fish Summon

  • (421S) > (dash) 214P~P > 2K > (P Fish bite, 1) > dash 2K > (P Fish bite, 2) > ...


    PK Fish Summon

    • dash 214P~K > 2P > (P Fish bite) > dash 2K > dash 2P > 5K > (K Fish bite follow-up) > forward jump > ...
      ... > H/L Mixup > ...


      • (corner throw KD) > dash 2147K > 421S (bubble pop) > 214P~K > 2P > (P Fish bite, 1) > dash 2P > (P Fish bite, 2) > 2K > 2K > (K Fish bite, from behind) > ...
        (on hit)
        ... > hit-confirm into follow-up combo


        PS Fish Summon
        PH Fish Summon
        PD Fish Summon


        KP Fish Summon

        • dash 214K~P > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > dash 6H > (P Fish bite follow-up) > 2147K > AD j.K > land > 2K > (bubble pop) > ...


          KK Fish Summon

          • dash 214K~K > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421 > (dash) 2K > 2D > (K Fish bite follow-up) > ]S[ > IAD > ...
            ... > H/L Mixup > ...

            • dash 214K~K > 2K > (K Fish bite) > dash 2K > c.S > (K Fish bite) > IAD > ...
              ... > H/L Mixup > ...

              • dash 214K~K > 2K > (K Fish bite) > dash 2P > c.S > (K Fish bite) > 2147K > (bubble pop) > ..
                ... > land > 2K > ...



                • dash 214K~K > 5K > (K Fish bite) > IAD > ...
                  ... > land > 2K > c.S > (K Fish bite) > IAD > H/L Mixup > ...
                  ... > back AD j.H > (K Fish bite) > land > IAD > H/L Mixup > ...


                  KS Fish Summon
                  KH Fish Summon

                  KD Fish Summon

                  • dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > IAD > (D Fish bite) > ...
                    ... > H/L Mixup > ...

                    • dash 214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421 > dash 5K > 2D > (D Fish bite follow-up) > ]S[ > IAD > ...
                      ... > H/L Mixup > ...

                      • dash 214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > dash 2K > IAD > (D Fish bite) > ...
                        ... > H/L Mixup > ...

                        • dash 214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > dash c.S > 2D > (D Fish bite) > IAD > ...
                          ... > H/L Mixup > ...



                          • dash 214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > IAD > falling j.H > ...
                            ... > land > jump > rising j.P (fuzzy guard?) > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > ...

                            ... > j.214K/S > AD j.H > land > 5P (bubble pop) > ...



                            • dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > falling j.H (whiff) > ...
                              ... > land > 2K > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > forward jump > falling j.H > land > (dash) c.S > 5H > 236H

                              • dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > falling j.H (whiff) > ...
                                ... > land > 2K > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > IAD > ...

                                ... > AD j.2S > j.H > land > 5P > 2K > 2D


                                ... > AD j.2S > j.H > land > c.S > 5H > 236H



                                • dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > ...
                                  ... > late back AD j.H > (D Fish bite) > j.214K > AD j.H > ...

                                  ... > land > 2K > 2D > 236S > (bubble pop)


                                  ... > land > 421S (bubble pop) > ...


                                  ... > falling j.H > ...

                                  ... > jump > rising j.P > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > falling j.H > land > c.S > ...





                                  • dash 214K~D > back IAD > (K Fish bite) > AD j.K > land > 2K > (D Fish bite) > 421 > 5K > ]S[ > IAD > ...
                                    ... > H/L Mixup > ...

                                    • dash 214K~D > back IAD > (K Fish bite) > ...
                                      ... > AD j.2S > j.H > land > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > KD reset > ...



                                      • (air throw KD) > 214K~D > back dash > (K Fish bite - from behind) > 421S > dash 2K > ...
                                        (on hit)
                                        ... > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > ...

                                        • (air throw KD) > 214K~D > back dash > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > falling j.H > land > 2K > (D Fish bite) > ...



                                          • dash 214K~D > 421 > (K Fish bite) > dash 2K > 2D > (D Fish bite) > ]S[ > forward jump > late AD j.2S > j.H > land > dash c.S > 2H > 421D FRC > 421S > ...

                                            • dash 214K~D > 2147K > (K Fish bite) > (bubble pop) > AD > land > 2S > 2D > (D Fish bite) > IAD > AD j.2S > j.H > land > 5K > 5H > 421D FRC > IAD Mixup > ...



                                              Bubble Loop setups

                                              • dash 214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > IAD Mixup > ...
                                                (on hit)
                                                ... > AD j.2S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > j.214K > j.H (pops bubble) > land > 421 > super jump > sj.H > sj.214K > ]S[ (pops bubble) > ...



                                                • dash 214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > IAD Mixup > ...
                                                  (on hit)
                                                  ... > AD j.2S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > j.214K > j.H (pops bubble) > land > 421 > jump > j.H > j.214K > ]S[ (pops bubble) > ...


                                                  • dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > foward jump > ...
                                                    (on hit)
                                                    ... > late back AD j.H > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > j.214K > AD j.H > land > c.S (bubble pop) > 421 > IAD j.H > ]S[ > j.214K > j.P (bubble pop) > land > jump > j.S > JC > j.2S > j.D




                                                    SP Fish Summon
                                                    SK Fish Summon
                                                    SS Fish Summon
                                                    SH Fish Summon
                                                    SD Fish Summon


                                                    HP Fish Summon

                                                    • 214H~P > IAD j.2S > (H Laser) > AD j.2S > j.H > (P Fish bite, 1) > land > IAD j.2S > ...
                                                      (on hit)
                                                      ... > (P Fish bite, 2) > land > 2K > c.S > ...

                                                      (on block)
                                                      ... > (P Fish bite, 2) > AD j.2S > j.H > land > ...



                                                      • 214H~P > dash 2K > ...
                                                        (on hit)
                                                        ... > (H Laser) > dash 2P > 5P > c.S > (P Fish bite, 1) > dash 5P > (P Fish bite, 2) > 2K > ...



                                                        • dash 214H~P > dash 5H > (H Laser, off-screen) > 2H > 236S > (P Fish bite, 1 - from behind) > 421S > (P Fish bite, 2 - in front) > IAD > ...


                                                          HK Fish Summon

                                                          • (Imperial Ray KD, corner) > dash 214H~K > dash 2147K > (H Laser) > AD j.2S > j.H > (K Fish bite) > IAD j.2S > AD j.2S > j.H > ...


                                                            HS Fish Summon

                                                            HH Fish Summon

                                                            • 214H~H > forward jump > (H Laser) > late back AD j.2S > ...
                                                              (on hit)
                                                              ... > land > 2K > 5H > 236H (launch) > (H Laser wallstick) > ...


                                                              • (2D KD) > 214H~H > IAD j.2S > (H Laser) > ...
                                                                (on hit)
                                                                ... > land > 2K > c.S > 2D > (H Laser wallstick) > jump > falling j.H > land > f.S > 236H


                                                                HD Fish Summon

                                                                • 214H~D > IAD j.2S > (H Laser) > AD j.2S > j.H > ...
                                                                  ... > land > 5K > (D Fish bite) > ...


                                                                  • 214H~D > dash 2K > (H Laser) > dash 2K > c.S > 2D > (D Fish bite) > IAD > H/L Mixup > ...


                                                                    • 214H~D > dash 2K > (H Laser) > IAD j.2S > j.H > (D Fish bite) > land > ...

                                                                    [*]214H~D > dash 2P > (H Laser) > IAD j.2S > j.H > j.214K > (D Fish bite) > (bubble pop) > land > ...

                                                                    [*]214H~D > dash 2K > (H Laser) > IAD j.2S > j.H > j.214K > (D Fish bite) > ...

                                                                    (on block)

                                                                    ... > land > dash 2K > 2D > IAD j.2S > j.H > (bubble pop) > ...

                                                                    ... > land > jump > rising j.P > falling j.P > land > dash 2P > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > land > dash 2K > 2D > 236H (bubble pop) > ...


                                                                    DP Fish Summon

                                                                    DK Fish Summon

                                                                    DS Fish Summon

                                                                    DH Fish Summon

                                                                    [*]214D~H > (dash) 2D > (D Fish bite) > IAD j.H > land > (H Laser) > ...

                                                                    [*]214D~H > dash 2K > (D Fish bite) > dash 2P > c.S > 2D > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > (H Laser wallstick) > IAD j.2S > j.D

                                                                    (if blocked)

                                                                    ... > IAD > H/L Mixup > ...

                                                                    [*]dash 214D~H > 5K > (D Fish bite) > IAD > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > land > 2K > 2H (launch) > (H Laser wallstick) > 421S > ...

                                                                    (if blocked)

                                                                    ... > land > 2K > 2H > (H Laser) > 421S > ...

                                                                    ... > 2P > (421S filler hit-confirm) > (dash) 5P > 2K > 2H > 236H

                                                                    [*]dash 214D~H > 5K > (D Fish bite) > IAD > land > 2K > 2H > (H Laser) > 236S > ...

                                                                    Bubble Loop setup

                                                                    [*]dash 214D~H > 2D > (D Fish bite) > IAD Mixup > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > land > 2K > 2H (launch) > (H Laser wallstick) > 421S > 2147K > falling j.H (bubble pop) > land > ...

                                                                    DD Fish Summon

                                                                    [*]dash 214D~D > 5K > (D Fish bite) > IAD > AD j.2S > j.H > (D Fish bite) > ...

                                                                    ... > j.214K > falling j.H (bubble pop) > ...

                                                                    ... > land > 2K > ...

                                                                    ... > j.214K > ...

                                                                    ... > land > ...

                                                                    ... > IAD j.2S > H/L Mixup > ...

                                                                    [*]dash 214D~D > 5K > (D Fish bite) > IAD > ...

                                                                    ... > land > 2K > c.S > (D Fish bite) > 2147x (bubble pop) > ...

                                                                    Bubble Loop setup

                                                                    [*]dash 214D~D > 5K > (D Fish bite) > IAD > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > AD j.2S > j.H > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > j.214K > falling j.H (bubble pop) > land > 421 > IAD j.H > j.214K > ]S[ (bubble pop) > ...

                                                                    421 > 421D > ...

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 421 > 421D > ]S[ > dash 214K~D > 5K > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > (K Fish bite) > 421S > dash 2K > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > ...

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 421 > 421D > ]S[ > dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > falling j.H (whiff) > ...

                                                                    ... > land > 2K > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > IAD > falling j.H > land > 2H > 236H FRC > dash c.S > f.S > 5H > 236H

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 421 > 421D > ]S[ > dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > dash 2K > (D Fish bite) > IAD > ...

                                                                    ... > H/L Mixup > ...

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 421 > 421D > ]S[ > dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > IAD > (D Fish bite) > ...

                                                                    ... > H/L Mixup > ...

                                                                    [Mid-screen Okizeme setups]

                                                                    PP Fish Summon

                                                                    [*]dash 214P~P > dash 2K > (1st P Fish bite, 1) > c.S > (1st P Fish bite, 2) > dash 2K > c.S > (2nd P Fish bite, 1) > 2K > (2nd P Fish bite, 2) > 2D > ...

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 214P~P > 2P > (P Fish bite, 1) > dash 2P > (P Fish bite, 2) > dash 2K > (P Fish bite, 1) > ...

                                                                    PK Fish Summon

                                                                    PS Fish Summon

                                                                    PH Fish Summon

                                                                    PD Fish Summon


                                                                    KP Fish Summon

                                                                    KK Fish Summon

                                                                    KS Fish Summon

                                                                    KH Fish Summon

                                                                    KD Fish Summon

                                                                    [*]dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > forward jump > late AD (crossover) > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > AD j.2S > j.H > land > c.S > 5H > 2H

                                                                    [*]dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump (crossover) > late back AD j.2S > (D Fish bite) > ...

                                                                    ... > land > ...

                                                                    [*]dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > late back AD j.H > (D Fish bite) > j.214K > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > AD j.2S > j.H > land > ground/KD combo

                                                                    [*]dash 214K~D > IAD (crossover) > (K Fish bite) > AD j.214K/S (toward opponent) > falling j.H (bubble pop) > land > 2P > (D Fish bite) > ...

                                                                    [*]dash 214K~D > IAD (crossover) > (K Fish bite) > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > AD j.214K/S (toward opponent) > falling j.H (bubble pop) > ...

                                                                    ... > land > 2K > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > ...

                                                                    ... > land > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > dash 2P > 2K > c.S > 5H > 2D > 236H

                                                                    ... > land > c.S > (D Fish bite) > 421S > 6H (2) > jump > j.S > j.P > j.S > JC > j.P > j.K > j.S > j.H

                                                                    ... > land > c.S > (D Fish bite) > 421S > 6H (2) > jump > j.S > j.P > j.S > JC > j.2S > j.D

                                                                    ... > land > c.S > (D Fish bite) > 421S > 6H (2) > jump > j.S > JC > j.S > j.D

                                                                    [*](dash) 214K~D > forward jump (over opponent) > (K Fish bite) > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > land > c.S > 5H > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > ...


                                                                    SP Fish Summon

                                                                    SK Fish Summon

                                                                    SS Fish Summon

                                                                    SH Fish Summon

                                                                    SD Fish Summon


                                                                    HP Fish Summon

                                                                    HK Fish Summon

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 214H~K > 421S > (H Laser) > crossover IAD > back AD j.H > (K Fish bite) > land > crossover IAD > ...

                                                                    ... > H/L Mixup > ...

                                                                    HS Fish Summon

                                                                    HH Fish Summon

                                                                    [*]214H~H > crossover IAD > (H Laser) > AD j.2S > j.H > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > land > 2D (launch) > (H Laser wallstick) > 2147P > AD j.2S (pops bubble) > j.D

                                                                    [*]214H~H > IAD (crossover) > falling j.2S > (H Laser) > land > 2K > 2D > IAD j.2S > (H Laser) > land > 2K > ...

                                                                    HD Fish Summon

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 214H~D > 2147K > (H Laser) > crossover AD > land > 2K > c.S > 2D > IAD (crossover) > (D Fish bite) > H/L Mixup > ...

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 214H~D > 2147K > (H Laser) > AD (crossover) > falling j.H > land > jump > rising j.P > (D Fish bite) > (fall) > late AD j.2S > j.H > land > ...

                                                                    [*]214H~D > crossover IAD j.214K > (H Laser) > falling j.2S (pops bubble) > falling j.H > ...

                                                                    ... > land > (D Fish bite) > ...

                                                                    (mid-screen to corner okizeme)

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 214H~D > 2147K > (H Laser) > AD > AD j.2S > j.H > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > land > follow-up combo filler > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > ...

                                                                    (on block )

                                                                    ... > land > (D Fish bite) > IAD > H/L Mixup > ...

                                                                    Bubble Loop setup

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 214H~D > 2147K > (H Laser) > crossover AD > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > land > 2K > c.S > 2D > 421 > (D Fish pops bubble) > IAD j.H > j.214K > ]S[ (pops bubble) > land > 6H (2 hits) > jump > air combo

                                                                    DP Fish Summon

                                                                    DK Fish Summon

                                                                    DS Fish Summon

                                                                    DH Fish Summon

                                                                    DD Fish Summon

                                                                    [*](2D KD) > 214D~D > IAD (crossover) > (D Fish bite) > ...

                                                                    (on hit)

                                                                    ... > AD j.2S > j.H > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > land > ...

                                                                    (if blocked)

                                                                    ... > AD j.2S > j.H > (D Fish bite) > land > ...

                                                                    ... > j.P (crossover/from behind) > (D Fish bite) > land > dash 2P > 2K > (D Fish bite) > 421S > ...


                                                                    421 > 421D > ...

                                                                    [*](2H KD) > 421 > 421D > ]S[ > dash 214K~D > 5K > ...

Edited by Kurokun
Posted

HH Fish Summon (mid-screen to corner okizeme):

http://youtu.be/9f0z3N5rOIk?t=6m48s

(ranged KD) > 214H~H > 236D (launch) > (H Laser Knockback) > dash (forward screen scroll) > (H Laser follow-up) > H/L Mixup > ...

HD Fish Summon (corner okizeme):

http://youtu.be/ObNABBcnJWo?t=4m34s

http://youtu.be/pJC30uV5hYg?t=3m13s

http://youtu.be/pJC30uV5hYg?t=6m36s

214H~D > IAD j.2S > (H Laser) > H/L Mixup > (D Fish bite) > ...

HD Fish Summon (corner okizeme):

http://youtu.be/pJC30uV5hYg?t=6m42s

214H~D > 2K (whiff) > (H Laser) > gatling string for pressure > (D Fish bite) > ...


  • It seems like you could probably do standard, ground-based okizeme stuffs from AC after the HD Fish Summon here.

Posted

KK Fish Summon (corner okizeme):

dash 214K~K > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421 > (dash) 2K > 2D > (K Fish bite follow-up) > ]S[ > IAD > H/L Mixup > ...

Posted (edited)

KP Fish Summon (corner okizeme):

http://youtu.be/lOIjQPGPaZg?t=7m11s

214K~P > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > dash 6H > (P Fish bite follow-up) > 2147K > AD j.K > land > 2K > (bubble pop) > ...


  • TK Bubble being utilized here makes for an interesting scenario. An auto-exploding bubble here could possibly be used to prolong pressure, limit the opponent's movement range (depends on which bubble summon is used), or even create another opportunity for a mixup of some sort.

Edited by Kurokun
Posted (edited)

In the latest vid Kazuki does a shitload of

KD Fish > 2k > 421S > IAD mixup in the corner. Seems relly solid thanks to the long blockstun by K fish

He also does a sweet-ass confirm where he comboes into bubble loop by planting a bubble while the opponent is staggered by D fish

Edit: THanks, Horokei

Edited by Nehle
Posted
KD Fish > 2k > 421S > IAD mixup in the corner. Seems relly solid thanks to the long blockstun by K fish

Fixed

Posted

KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme into Bubble Loop setup):

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=35s

214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > IAD Mixup > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > j.214K > j.H (pops bubble) > land > 421 > super jump > sj.H > sj.214K > ]S[ (pops bubble) > ...

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=6m30s

214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > IAD Mixup > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > j.214K > j.H (pops bubble) > land > 421 > jump > j.H > j.214K > ]S[ (pops bubble) > ...

KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme):

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=4m25s

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=5m7s

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=14m55s

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=17m27s

214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > dash 2K > IAD > H/L Mixup > (D Fish bite) > ...

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=21m18s

214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > IAD > H/L Mixup > (D Fish bite) > ...

KD Fish Summon (mid-screen okizeme):

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=8m52s

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=9m48s

214K~D > IAD (over/past opponent) > (K Fish bite) > AD back > j.214K > j.H (pops bubble) > land > (D Fish bite) > ...

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=11m54s

214K~D > jump (over opponent) > (K Fish bite) > land > c.S > 5H > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > 5D (whiff) > ...

  • Possible Dust Combo scenario via this mid-screen okizeme setup.
  • 5H could probably be omitted here.

http://youtu.be/5bmZRM1GsBk?t=19m16s

214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > 2P > IAD/AD Mixup > (D Fish bite) > ...

  • 1 month later...
Posted

HH Fish Summon (mid-screen okizeme, possible corner wallstick scenario)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEEKGOWA3ME#t=8m56s

214H~H > crossover IAD > (H Laser) > AD j.2S > j.H > land > 2D (launch) > (H Laser wallstick) > 2147P > AD j.2S (pops bubble) > j.D > ...

  • The hit-confirmed 2D > (H laser wallstick) is interesting.
  • This setup is most likely to be dependent on distance, relative to a wall. Otherwise, you might only get knockback from the aerial H Laser hit.
  • In regards to the scenario in the video, it might be possible to do the following combo sequence instead: AD j.2S > j.H > land > jump > air combo
  • There might be an opportunity for other combo options after 2D > (H Laser wallstick) (will likely require testing/experimentation).

  • 4 weeks later...
Posted (edited)

HD Fish Summon (mid-screen okizeme):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRIaO4ymPk0#t=4m39s

214H~D > 2147K > (H Laser) > crossover AD > land > 2K > c.S > 2D > IAD (crossover) > (D Fish bite) > H/L Mixup > ...

  • Though 2H was used to get KD, 2D could probably work here as well.
  • TK Bubble summon must be high enough to allow Dizzy to be able to AD and crossover the opponent.

HD Fish Summon (mid-screen okizeme into Bubble Loop setup):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRIaO4ymPk0#t=9m17s

214H~D > 2147K > (H Laser) > crossover AD > land > 2K > c.S > 2D > 421 > (D Fish pops bubble) > IAD j.H > j.214K > ]S[ (pops bubble) > land > 6H (2 hits) > jump > air combo

Edited by Kurokun
Posted
HD Fish Summon (mid-screen okizeme):

[*]Though 2H was used to get KD, 2D could probably work here as well.

o

IIRC, 2H gave you more time to setup. In #R, H fish, which shot faster, became very close to a perfect crossup off of 2D. This would mean in AC+R, 2D -> HD fish likely would give them quite a window to escape, though this is testable in AC if it mattered.

tldr; It is probably just a 2h setup against knowledgeable opponents.

Posted

K Fish Summon (corner okizeme, Burst bait/punish scenario)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwp9ULbnLvE#t=1h18m47s

dash 214K > 2K > (K Fish bite) > (opponent uses Burst) > f.S > 236H

KK Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwp9ULbnLvE#t=1h18m51s

dash 214K~K > 2K > (K Fish bite) > dash 2K > c.S > (K Fish bite) > IAD > H/L Mixup > ...

H(?) Fish (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwp9ULbnLvE#t=1h17m50s

214H~(?) > dash 5K (CH) > (H Laser wallstick) > f.S > (unknown Fish action) > 236H

  • Nice hit-confirm off of a CH dash 5K (that punished something) with a follow-up wallstick combo.

HD Fish (mid-screen okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uwp9ULbnLvE#t=1h12m23s

214H~D > IAD j.214K > (H Laser) > j.2S (pops bubble) > j.H (blocked) > land > 2D (gets hit by DAA) > (D Fish bite hits for 'stagger')

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KK Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG9Org56R3k#t=3m39s

dash 214K~K > 2K > (K Fish bite) > dash 2P > c.S > (K Fish bite) > 2147K > (bubble pop) > land > 2K > ...

KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG9Org56R3k#t=4m18s

dash 214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S > dash c.S > 2D > (D Fish bite) > IAD > H/L Mixup > ...

DH Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG9Org56R3k#t=9m55s

214D~K > 2D > (D Fish bite) > IAD j.H > (H Laser) > ...

DH Fish Summon (corner okizeme, hit-confirm into wallstick combo)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KeGxaO6PkY#t=18m4s

214D~H > dash 2K > (D Fish bite) > dash 2P > c.S > 2D (launch) > (H Laser wallstick) > IAD j.2S > j.D

KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ssUZMlYumnU#t=18m7s

short dash 214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > IAD j.H > land > jump > rising j.P (fuzzy guard?) > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > j.214K > AD j.H > land > 5P (bubble pop > ...

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KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdIRnY-0drg#t=1m2s

dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > falling j.H (whiff) > ...

... > land > 2K > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > IAD > AD j.2S > j.H > land > 5P > 2K > 2D

KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdIRnY-0drg#t=1m8s

(421S) > dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > falling j.H (whiff) > ...

... > land > 2K > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > IAD > AD j.2S > j.H > land > c.S > 5H > 236H

KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdIRnY-0drg#t=2m9s

dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > late back AD j.H > j.214K > (D Fish bite) > AD j.H > land > 2K > 2D > 236S > (bubble pop)

  • 236S FRC could be an option here to give Dizzy a possible opportunity for some sort of mixup/pressure.
  • Possible opportunity for a IAD Mixup after 2D.
  • Maybe stall for bubble auto-pop into mixup/pressure?
  • Maybe a possible opportunity for a fuzzy guard setup with land > jump > rising j.P after the AD j.H, along with the bubble coverage?

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HK Fish Summon (mid-screen okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyygHdTMMwc#t=54s

214H~K > 421S > (H Laser) > crossover IAD > back AD j.H > (K Fish bite) > land > crossover IAD > H/L Mixup > ...

HD Fish Summon (corner okizeme, hit-confirm into KD reset scenario)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyygHdTMMwc#t=1m2s

214H~D > IAD j.2S > (H Laser) > j.K > land > 2K > c.S > 5H > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > ...

  • I like the hit-confirm follow-up attack sequence that concludes with a 'stagger' from the D Fish bite.

Posted (edited)

KD Fish Summon (mid-screen okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBNAZDEvTpM#t=5m18s

dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump (crossover) > late back AD j.2S > (D Fish bite) > land > ...

KD Fish Summon (mid-screen okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb1OnljRgM0#t=9m7s

dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > late back AD j.H > (D Fish bite) > j.214K > ...

(if hit-confirm with j.H > (D Fish bite) prior to j.214K bubble summon)

... > AD j.2S > j.H > land > dash c.S > 5H > 2H > 236H

  • Though the hit-confirm follow-up was an air-to-ground combo, via an AD scenario after a j.214K bubble summon, I wonder if you would be able to follow-up with a dash into a ground combo instead if you chose to land on the ground after the j.H, provided you still got the hit-confirms from j.H > (D Fish bite).
  • The j.214K bubble summon here is probably some sort of defensive measure if the pressure string was blocked, or something.

Edited by Kurokun
Posted

I wouldn't be surprised of a bubble pop on the way up would give you another jump high low, like jump 2s early, pop bubble, ect with high low.

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HH Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltTyh9amkrM#t=13m32s

214H~H > forward jump > (H Laser) > late back AD j.2S > ...

... > land > 2K > 5H > 236H (launch) > (H Laser wallstick) > ...

HH Fish Summon (corner okizeme, wallstick tech scenario)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrhI7aoblW0#t=1m18s

214H~H > 236D (launch) > (H Laser wallstick) > opponent techs > dash 421S (summon filler) > (H Laser wallstick) > dash f.S > 5H > 236H

KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrhI7aoblW0#t=48s

dash 214K~D > 2K > (K Fish bite) > 421S (hit-confirms) > c.S > 5H > (D Fish bite) > ...

KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrhI7aoblW0#t=1m25s

dash 214K~D > back IAD > (K Fish bite) > ...

... > AD j.2S > j.H > land > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > KD reset (throw) > ...

KD Fish Summon (corner okizeme)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VyZOkTs0DGI#t=2m59s

dash 214K~D > 5K > (K Fish bite) > forward jump > falling j.H (whiff) > ...

... > land > 2K > c.S > (D Fish bite 'stagger') > forward jump > falling j.H > land > (dash) c.S > 5H > 236H

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