[CP] Nu vs Carl

[toanenadiz]

The Neutral Game

Long Range: Your Tools vs His Tools

Medium Range: Your Tools vs His Tools

Close Quarters: Your Tools vs His Tools

Offense

Your Offense:

His Offense:

Defense

Your Defense:

His Defense:

Frame Data: Advantageous, Disadvantageous, and Punishable Moves

Neutral/Advantageous Moves:

Disadvantageous Moves:

Punishable Moves:

Gimmicks and Resets

Match Summary

[Speakeasy]

What can we do to beat Vivace fullscreen? It makes it pointless to use D attacks and if the Carl is good at spacing, they'll be able to dodge just about everything I can do. I've heard you can low him out of it, is that an option? What about predicting a vivace and Luna 236Aing past him and trying to punish afterward, assuming it won't put you in a dangerous position with the puppet?

Also, can you really 66/44 Parser after Nirvana blocks D attacks? That's rich if you can.

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[toanenadiz]

Dash 2B/3C or a well timed D can deal with Vivace from full screen. Both Vivace lose to lows. Both Vivace are projectile invul but they do have recovery frames where you can punish them with a sword. A Vivace only has projectile invul so you can use any normal (besides 5C) to punish it. B Vivace is invul to everything but throws and lows but it has 9 frames of recovery where you can hit him with anytime. You could also yomi 236236D to beat both Vivace, provided Ada isn't in front of Carl.

 

And you can 44/66 parser after Nirvana blocks a D sword but it is less useful than you think it would be.

[someonewhodied]

I find dia 6C>act parser 44 to be a great tool for keeping the doll away.

[Diveman]

How do you deal with the drill move? that's the most annoying thing about the matchup. that move alone shuts down all the zoning and he gets in for free

[someonewhodied]

iadback, dash forward, 6C doll, 44 act parser away.