fatewalker Posted January 28, 2007 Posted January 28, 2007 it seems to me that it would be really good in air dash stirngs hiting crouching characters instead of using j.P.
DrgnEclair Posted January 29, 2007 Posted January 29, 2007 the evolution of playing like a raging pussy continues .. while attempting to discover new random bullshit .. and then dying
SH_ Posted February 6, 2007 Posted February 6, 2007 ok, serious question here, a good friend and local dizzy player has brought up the fact that he still hasn't seen a movie of Dizzy winning in AC, I'm sure there are some out there, but I mean recent... edit: Dizzy wins a couple in one of the recent tourney vid posts, but I am still wondering how many wins ppl have seen in Dizzy vids in AC....
CrimsonDisaster Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 I have NEVER seen a vid of Dizzy winning in AC, so you've already seen more than I probably ever will.
Nehle Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 The recent tourney vids posted are far from top players. Basically, in the only vids I have seen where Dizzy wins, the players are scrubs or mediocre. At high-level play she hasn't won once yet.
chun_li1 Posted February 7, 2007 Posted February 7, 2007 Im not sure how to call this thread, so dont bring out the torches. Not even sure if this should go independent. Ok so what I have in mind is, that we list stuff we havnt seen yet in match vids, but which in theory might be possible to do. And let others confirm (from watching a vid, player, personal testing, etc.) if it works or not. - 2D into special cancel does work in AC. How about about our favorite #R combo > 2D, spike, FRC, repeat! Is it possible to do in AC or is the damn cancel too hard to do consistent, the decreased range on 2D makes it difficult, impossible to do? - Latest tougekii damashii had a combo vid for all characters. For Dizzy they had a Anti Air variation, that went CH 2S, 241 S (hold), jump HS .... Now, this only worked on only a few characters in Slash. eg. May. Now I´m wondering, is this possible to do on more, all characters (especially small ones like Millia, Bridget!) or was Arcadia or whoever decided on the content of that combo vid just being lazy, lack of inspiration? - Is 6P, 6HS really a legid combo, as seen in those (sucky) filebank vids? If yes, is it possible to do this gatling > eg. opponent gets hit by bubble close to the groundy dash in and 6P, 6HS, ... possible? Alright, thats some of the stuff thats been bugging me and would be greatly appreciated if they can be clarified for all of us, I´d wager.
Jet Set Dizzy Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Well dizzy is always a winner in my book. does js have more range cause it sure looks like it.
YaR 1030 Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 Dizzy is always winner. as for vids about everyone looking scrubby... think about it guys. this is a new game completly and everyone needs to re-learn. no one will be playing like a champ instantly. but truth be told, i never saw a Dizzy win once yet in AC vids.
CrimsonDisaster Posted February 15, 2007 Posted February 15, 2007 as for vids about everyone looking scrubby... think about it guys. this is a new game completly and everyone needs to re-learn. no one will be playing like a champ instantly. but truth be told, i never saw a Dizzy win once yet in AC vids. That's not what we're saying. We're saying that the only vids that Dizzy wins in are vids of scrubbier play. The high level vids are all of Dizzy losing. The game has been out for more than 2 months now and we STILL haven't seen a single vid out of the better/best sites (ex. gamechariot, a-cho, random Japanese players' sites) where Dizzy has won. That says something. The game is NOT completely new in any case.
Zakuta Asura Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 I remember getting a pack of XX/ Dizzy movies and I'm like 'yay, I guess Dizzy wins in most if not all of these'. ... ...well, I was wrong! =p Also, I haven't seen no Dizzy's win in AC ... not even H.H! He may get the first couple of rounds, then hey gets laid to waist. Also, he had no luck against Bacon. I get the sneaky suspicion that Dizzy isn't really a tournament character :o, but still, she does seem pretty good in AC.
stinkymonz Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 The last 2 Dizzy HLP matches both feature Dizzy almost winning, so I'm thinking it may need just a bit more time.
CrimsonDisaster Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 The last 2 Dizzy HLP matches both feature Dizzy almost winning, so I'm thinking it may need just a bit more time. She's been almost winning for a long time now =(
Effenhoog Posted February 16, 2007 Posted February 16, 2007 From what I understand, it seems like Dizzy is doomed to be terrible in AC. In Reload she was B tier or so (not sure on this, I started playing right around when Slash came out and only played Reload for a month or so, but I do recall hearing about Dizzy winning tournaments here and there, something I have never heard of since Slash). Then in Slash she got a few new things, but her negative changes overshadowed them and she went down in tiers. Now in AC she once again gets a few new things, but then loses more important stuff (fish, even lower defense). Combine that with the fact that most other characters seem to have improved in AC, and that sounds like a recipe for a terrible Dizzy. I really don't understand the reasoning behind her AC changes; it seems pretty apparent to even a scrubby player like me that she got hosed this time around. edit: I don't mean to sound like I'm complaining or anything, I just want to be realistic about what it seems everyone is thinking.
Necrosis Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 Yeah, I REALLY don't see why, y'know, they seem to look at what people are doing and change it based on previous changes (like the removal of Sol dustloops and the addition of Sidewinder so you can do similar but weaker stuff), but we all say Dizzy sucks so they make her worse and remove anything she had.
Jet Set Dizzy Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 and id say the system change hurt her as well... (cough..grab escape..cough) it does seem pretty nonsensicle the way they nerfed the already hevily nerfed char. whatever Il stick with anyway.
chun_li1 Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 My 5 cents to the changes. The changes are all very good ... if this was still Slash or a Slash update. A lot of stuff, bugs, oversights were fixed, taken care of. I was cursing ARC before for doing a sloppy job in /. It just smelled like a rush job ... After viewing AC matches, I believe ARC really seemed to have adressed all the faults in Slash. Changes I´ve been waiting to appear with AC : - Easy execution for Necro grab. Finally a proper reversal type of attack w/ way better application. Imperial Ray is soooo shit. What kind of OD disappears (Imperial Ray, FRC, Dizzy attacks, gets hit, OD dissappears too, wtf?!) doesnt hit properly for full hits sometime and trades in opponents favour (maybe Dizzy players should have bitched earlier about this like the testaments. midnight Circular was pretty crappy too in XX. same problems like Imperial ray) (I still believe Dizzys ODs are all a big joke ) - That fish no longer disappear once they are out, great stuff. Dizzy finally gets equality. Venoms balls, Ky projectiles, dont disappear once out. What was Arc thinking when they made Slash ... We´ll never know. - Extended fish rushes! Thank god ARC finally did something about that. We all know, fish rushes are full of holes to escape and over before u know it. Now we get something a little closer to a Eddie rush and more opportunities to land hits during a fish rush, attack. - Jump 2S. Now our jump, IAD oki are much easier, possible to do now. No more IAD attacks that whiff because opponent was crouching whole time or running at you. - 2Hs seems to have gotten increased front hitbox (unconfirmed, based on vids)! We all have seen, experienced lots of times how in Slash the 2K, 2HS gatling, the 2HS would whiff sometimes. After losing the special cancel from the 2D in Slash (2K, 2D was a very often used and cursed (lol) gatling in #R days ), the next best move after 2K was 2HS. Someone didnt seem to have used the 2K, 2HS gatling much during the beta test of Slash... Seems to have been fixed now, thank god! - Better gatlings/improved moves! (Unconfirmed, based on vids) If these changes had been done in Slash, Dizzy would be solid in Slash. The nerfs in AC I could have lived with in Slash. Why I believe Dizzy just blows in AC atm. - Almost entire cast got boosted big time while Dizzy only seemed to have gotten a patch job! - So far I miss big damage combos midscreen, Death combos in corners. Everything still revolves around knockdowns into set ups and reset, repeat. Other characters got more situations now to get in big damage. With Dizzy, its still the same so far ... Could at least have given her more tools to score knockdown from Air moves or increased tech time on icespike. Or just change the icespike back to its former XX, #R glory ! Alright, thats my 5 cents to this. Now back to playing PSU
Jet Set Dizzy Posted February 17, 2007 Posted February 17, 2007 DIZZY WINS: http://page.freett.com/nanpond/movie.html Lets have a dizzy not ALWAYS losing party!
chun_li1 Posted February 18, 2007 Posted February 18, 2007 DIZZY WINS: http://page.freett.com/nanpond/movie.html CONGRATURATION! YOU ARE BIG WINNER! KEEP UP THE WORK DIZZY! DO YOUR BEST!
Leblackdragon Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 So does it look like I can now brush up on Dizzy? Or shall we wait to see how she fairs against the other characters? Cause I'm seriously worried about her hit-box/defense rating. Corner traps were a nightmare in Slash. So my main concerns (upgrade) in AC would be her: 1- Slash-Back capabilities, and what options would that open for her (let's face it, we'd all open for Dizzy)? 2- Force Break setup, I think it's the bubble for her? 3- Slide/Wall combos (if any)?
CrimsonDisaster Posted February 20, 2007 Posted February 20, 2007 So does it look like I can now brush up on Dizzy? Or shall we wait to see how she fairs against the other characters? Cause I'm seriously worried about her hit-box/defense rating. Corner traps were a nightmare in Slash. So my main concerns (upgrade) in AC would be her: 1- Slash-Back capabilities, and what options would that open for her (let's face it, we'd all open for Dizzy)? 2- Force Break setup, I think it's the bubble for her? 3- Slide/Wall combos (if any)? Here's how she's fared against other characters in the 2 months this game has been out: ONE video of her winning from any halfway decent player group. 1- Given what people have been SBing with any consistency... not much. 2- Any time your opponent isn't in your face. 3- none that seem remotely special or useful.
CrimsonDisaster Posted February 21, 2007 Posted February 21, 2007 dizzy is reserved only for winners No she's reserved for champs who have mastered all moves and beaten the best. Good news, apparently Team Dizzy placed second at the A-Cho single-character team tourney (Team Millia took first?) so hopefully there will be some good vids of Dizzys playing like champions.
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