[CP] Bang Combo Discussion and Posting Thread

[Dreiko]

Imma drop some Fu-Rin-Ka-Zan secrets on this thread (Idk if it's been said before)

The best, time-efficient combo is as follows: X>ODc>5B>(if they're crouching) 5D>6C>j.623B>2D>8/9dash>j.C>j.623B>5C>6D>Daifunka. Only requires j.D seal (6D if you want a cross up) 50 heat and I believe 50% health. Does 5.5/7K depending on what you start with, and you can start with almost anything

What starter you're gonna do this off of varies the damage quite a bit. For example, 5C is the main likely starter to have in this situation which has p1 of 80 while if you had a 2B crouching confirm to OD off-of it'd be much higher damage and if it's a 5A then you don't get much at all sadly.

 

 

If you're gonna do something which consumes 50 heat, it's better to just go for a 3C>RC confirm instead to prolong your OD duration since you should be able to make most of that meter back in the ensuing combo while if you just burn it in the end with daifunka you're not gonna be making it back so for crouching confirms at 50% health I'd go for 5B>2B>3C>RC>OD>2B>9JC>6JC>6JC>2>8JC>9JC>6JC>6JC>623B>5C>6D>2D>JD>2C>623B>2C. It does approximately 6.1k and makes 43 meter back due to the 50 meter use in it occurring early enough that the OD activation coincides with the meter gain cooldown of the RC so you get full meter for the entire OD combo.

 

 

Sadly, it's almost never worth it to use OD cancels with Bang as far as optimization goes, you'd only really wanna do it to seal bursts or if it's the only way to kill which isn't a situation that occurs often at all. Also, if you're too far for 5B to connect, you can do 5C>ODc>2B. It's a tighter link but it's possible and good to know in those instances where your 5C hits but you're too far to do literally anything else (even 2C whiffs).

[ReynTime180]

Well, I did say time-efficient, meaning that it's to be used with high health :P I think it's 60% or 70% minimum? So I don't think you'll have enough time to complete a 3C RC combo

[Dreiko]

Well, I did say time-efficient, meaning that it's to be used with high health :P I think it's 60% or 70% minimum? So I don't think you'll have enough time to complete a 3C RC combo

In my quoted post you said "50% health" so that's what I took you to mean lol.

 

I'll look into some 70% health stuff though, doesn't hurt!

[ReynTime180]

In my quoted post you said "50% health" so that's what I took you to mean lol.

I'll look into some 70% health stuff though, doesn't hurt!

Whoops, lol. I'll check again and see how much it is. But you do need about 30% health to get the OD daifunka

[ReynTime180]

Alright, so re-tested the combo, it takes 70% health off of standing confirm, no OD daifunka, but you get 6K off 5B, not bad. Crouching, it takes a minimum of 50% to get the combo, gets you 6K off of 5B, 5.3 off 5C. Meh.

[jme]

Gotta question most likely answered before:

 

Do you really need to dash up 2B after 623B in the corner? Especially if you just cancel from 5C or 2C you'll just hit them without dashing just standing there.

 

I ask this because I find frustratingly weird how I'm able to dash up and hit them consistently after a basic, day 1 combo 5A > 5B > 2B > 2C > 623B  and then dash up 2B EVERYTIME, but I can't do it off of a standalone 5B, 2B(sometimes 5C and 2C).

 

If it's just me then I understand, I'll just practice but I just wanted to know if that's like a thing that everyone knows about before I start trying to practiinge something that can't be done practically.

[GreekAngel]

UPDATED FUCKING BUTTERFLY!!  HOLY SHIT!!

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23218628

[HoudiniJr100]

Since nico doesn't work with my iPad well...care to explain it?

[GreekAngel]

Since nico doesn't work with my iPad well...care to explain it?

Some combos are actually reworked, extra bang vs relius clash battle and the presentation at the final third of the vid.

[HoudiniJr100]

Some combos are actually reworked, extra bang vs relius clash battle and the presentation at the final third of the vid.

Awesome. I'm especially intrigued at the clash against the Relius

[Meximan2.0]

well this isnt combo related but ive not seen this any where else on Dustloop so figure i'll put it and ask here. i saw this video today and was wondering how if its even possible to Cancel the 5D animation as shown in the video. thing is its not explained how but its shown but im iffy if its legit or not but if it is i would like to learn this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bgfDJxmBCA

[ReynTime180]

This was featured in a CMV before, but it's good to see it elaborated on. What I seems you have to do, is barrier or OD after the GP, it works with and D attack, in theory at least. I've only got to do OD after a 5D GP.

[GreekAngel]

well this isnt combo related but ive not seen this any where else on Dustloop so figure i'll put it and ask here. i saw this video today and was wondering how if its even possible to Cancel the 5D animation as shown in the video. thing is its not explained how but its shown but im iffy if its legit or not but if it is i would like to learn this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bgfDJxmBCA

I'm actually STILL waiting on an explanation on how that is even possible.  I really wanna do this.

[someonewhodied]

barrier ain't working to cancel it. I get B teleport off of a perfect 4AB

[Meximan2.0]

after many many hours of trying...barrier does work but from what ive seen so far as soon as you get a guard point you must push back and barrier instantly...so pretty much 5D than 4A+B and also i havent figured out how to work in the teleport consistanly either but  if you wana teleport try pushing 5D and any other button at the same time to start up the auto guard then go into barrier works most of the time for me......still not good enough so im missing something but idk what yet.

[ReynTime180]

I'd like to not that you don't actually have to teleport to cancel. Of the few times I got this to work was when I did 5D overdrive cancel and didn't teleport, so it's possible to do it both ways.

[Meximan2.0]

I'd like to not that you don't actually have to teleport to cancel. Of the few times I got this to work was when I did 5D overdrive cancel and didn't teleport, so it's possible to do it both ways.

well yeah you dont have to teleport but i havent figured out how not to ive only do it by accident when i dont teleport. also this works with CT and throws so CT,Barrier, throws and OD works but the problem is just timing...they all seem to be the same timeing but what that timing is i have no idea yet...im still failing alot more than getting.

[NeMo Smash]

I'm actually STILL waiting on an explanation on how that is even possible.  I really wanna do this.

 I'm working in the tutorial, I'm really busy with studies stuff. Sorry about that. A bit of patience.

[Mooglebane]

Yo, just started playing Bang. Any tips about this part in the combo?

 

(standing, midscren) 5B>2B>6C>IADJC>J2C>5A>5B>>JC>IADjC>J2C>5A>5B>>JC>IADjC>J2C>5A>5B>ashura 4.6k

 

How do I get the IAD after the jC? Can't get an airdash to come out at all.

[Raziul]

you do a 956 motion for the air dash. You're pretty much starting a double jump but it reads the 9 as an 8 and a 6 at the same time, so it gets read as 66 for a dash. The other important tip once you get the IAD down, is the delay the follow up j.C as much as possible.

[Chris Chaos]

The bold part of the combo could work if you use this instead:

6C>IADj.C>j.2C

That would probably be easier. That's the route I use.

[Mooglebane]

you do a 956 motion for the air dash. You're pretty much starting a double jump but it reads the 9 as an 8 and a 6 at the same time, so it gets read as 66 for a dash. The other important tip once you get the IAD down, is the delay the follow up j.C as much as possible.

 

Alright, will give this a try. Thanks!

 

 

The bold part of the combo could work if you use this instead:

6C>IADj.C>j.2C

That would probably be easier. That's the route I use.

 

Yeah, I've been trying to replace it with 6C>stuff, wasn't sure if that was a good way to do it. I'll give both of these a try, thanks!

[ReynTime180]

Yo, just started playing Bang. Any tips about this part in the combo?

How do I get the IAD after the jC? Can't get an airdash to come out at all.

Ya, if you're having trouble with the second part, you can do 5A>6C and then IAD again. Or you can do 5A>6C>j.D>x for some seals

[KrsJin]

Still no footage of or knowledge on what his new slide FC combo will be?

[ReynTime180]

Still no footage of or knowledge on what his new slide FC combo will be?

We're thinking it's going to be something like: 3C FC>2B>6B>5B>2B>IAD loop

We might be able to do a 5C after the 5B, which might lead into 6A>6C>???

I haven't seen any Bangs in 1.1 yet, the Japanese probably have figured something out by now.