[GGAC] Robo-Ky: Talky-Talky Goes Here!

[M.Song]

i meant on block also i've had plenty of situations where the 1st hit misses and the 2nd hit connects and its not counterhit

[Grey]

Haven't tried it on a blocked opponent yet, but how useful would it be, since if it's on block, they'll be more or less below you when you FRC > air missiles so the air missiles are pretty much guaranteed not to hit.

[M.Song]

that's why i said lv 3 air missiles

[Grey]

Yeah, but it would still be easily avoidable wouldn't hit? Maybe the bottom most missile can curve enough if the opponent stayed still. But maybe the missiles provide protection to air dash away or something.

[vedasisme]

firing lvl 3 missiles while directly above someone is generally bad; a good player will go under the missiles and punish you.

[M.Song]

have anyone of you even tried this or are you just saying stuff? you have to remember this is off a blocked lv3 dp. there will be some block stun. i'm not saying this is the greatest idea ever.... i was just wondering if this is a valid means to escape after a blocked dp. and obviously nobody plays this game anymore so it was pointless asking

[Grey]

Just saying lol, I will try it on a blocked enemy (already tried on total whiff) tomorrow when I have access to my PS2.

[Grey]

Ok tried it on block. It appears that even with block stun there's enough time for the opponent to just jump for air throw or combo.

[vedasisme]

New vids! Well, not really new, they are from my groups pre-otacon warm-up, and all of us have actually improved a lot since then. Have a look-see, crit appreciated:

vs OR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ6Cb-NCjpw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a3MDfg3N3EY

vs SL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vw9kbZ8ABSQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1PzGxdVOgs4

vs JO

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYKOVhP5lzc

[M.Song]

pony is super unsafe against johnny... just about all his moves beat it completely free

[vedasisme]

pony is super unsafe against johnny... just about all his moves beat it completely free

If that's true, I should have my johnny friend start trying to beat my horsie. Don't want to get too used to doing it if it's as unsafe as you say.

[dontuel]

New vids!

Good stuff, youre looking pretty solid.

a few things to work on is combos, there were alot of dropped combos from what i saw or times where you did a combo but you could have done a more damaging combo.

also comboing after random hits. there were alot of times where you scored random counters or hits that would lead to knock down and didnt really do anything with them.

oki. didnt seem like you did much for oki. it was either robo dash, bazooka -> dust or 5k 5s 5s... try to add in some different block strings/frame traps and throw attempts

also use more missiles, i barely saw any!!

[vedasisme]

I can see where you coming from on the combos. A lot of the time I'm just going for the horsey combo into the 5HS frc, and I often screw it up and sometimes 6P comes out instead. Were there other places I could have combo'd? I agree my oki is good, but it's not as solid as it could be. I'm seeing a lot of places where using 5P as a spacing tool for bazooka would really come in handy, so I'll definitely start using that.

[solidshake]

no, stop getting better or else i'm going back to rad racer

[ShibuyaX]

wow pretty dead RO forums....guess everyone jumped on BB...for me i havent...i tried the game mulitple times and i just cant seem to find a right character and i cant get into it like GG...but anyways just wondering who is all going to NEC??????

[M.Song]

still playing GG.... haven't touched BB yet actually..... unfortunately i'm not gonna be able to make it to NEC this year.

[vedasisme]

I'm still playing GG, too. Touched BB, only momentarily. Gonna wait for some re-balancing before I take that game seriously.

In other news, a-cho has been uploading GG matches with some regularity, and a batch was just uploaded today.

Looks like Dogura and co. decided to be awesome today!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldz-Voe9_38

in the other vids you'll see footage of N-Otoko and Kabegiwa no DC representing.

[vedasisme]

Why do you guys think Dogura has started using the 5k > 5p link as okizeme? Do you think that he's timing it in such a way that it's a safe meaty?

[Grey]

Can you post a few moments where he uses 5k -> 5p?

[fadooglee]

Yea, I would like to see 5k>5p oki links also.

[dontuel]

its fine for oki as long as they dont have a good reversal. 5k is actually easier to do meaty cause it has longer active frames i believe (we talked about this before in a thread in regards to vs. pot) but just be careful not to get too close or you can get thrown.

[vedasisme]

he outright abuses it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldz-Voe9_38

he also comes back about halfway through the vid and continues using it.

EDIT:

funny thing, it's the same video i posted last. I'll try to find some more examples, because he does it with some consistency nowadays.

[fadooglee]

Yeah 5k is a good meaty and maybe it's a good way to poke yourself in position to do a bazooka. That's what I think, but I'm not sure because I've seen Dogura do 5k, 5p, bazooka

[Grey]

Maybe it's one of those things that are why not? 5k has longer active frames and hits low, and chains into whatever 5p can chain into anyway. 5p's less recovery matters when they can SRK, but he might have noticed that the people he plays don't like to SRK on wake up?

[Grey]

So are there any stuff for horsie RC? Cuz it doesn't show up often (i.e. never) so people won't be expecting it. But why not horsie > 5HS FRC instead? Because... 1. horsie RC lands you closer to the opponent so there's less time for opponent to react to command grab, and maybe they'll even be surprised by horsie RC which will further slow their reaction 2. horsie RC > forcebreak > j.k ( > FB > j.k if they block and you wanna waste a full 100% tension) is a pretty quick overhead 3. the dust in horsie RC > land > D is pretty well hidden by the red rings of the RC These are all the stuff that I could think of, so any thoughts?