[FB] The MSZ-006 Zeta Thread - "Awesome! Do I ROCK or what?"

[WindmanV3]

Unit: MSZ-006 Zeta Gundam
Pilot: Roux Luka
Cost: 2000
Durability: 560
Overall height: 19.85 meters
Overall weight: 28.7 metric tons
From: Mobile Suit ZETA Gundam

http://www4.atwiki.jp/arcgundamexvsfuvo/pages/353.html

Move List

[A] Beam Rifle
Ammo: 6
Damage: 70
Reload time: Manual refill
- Simple, all purpose beam rifle that refills as soon as you press the fire button when you have used up all your shots.


[CSa] The ROCK!
Charge time: ~2 seconds
- Roux summons forth a rock that will travel in a forward movement. This will explode after a while, doing 70 damage on explosion. I am sure there's ways to make this move work, but I don't know.
Also, this move acts as a pretty good shield from assists, though BR's have a tendency to just go clean through.


[AB] Bazooka Launcher
Ammo: 2
Damage: 114 on both hits, otherwise, 60 damage if it hits once
Reload time: 8 seconds
- This move...is pretty cool. This move can be done after 2B, but not after a BR, unless you BD it. (Which doesn't even cost that much boost. Thought this'd be good to know.)


[AC] Mega Blaster
Ammo: 1
Damage: 130
Reload time: ~10-11 seconds
- Roux will shoot a pretty big beam towards the opponent, causing a knockdown. Cannot be done after a BR, unless you BD it, which WILL combo.


[bC] Stun Blade
Ammo: 1
Damage: 123
Reload time: 5 seconds
- Roux will throw a blade, then shoot her BR at it, causing it to explode and stun anyone near it's explosion, which has a pretty BIG hitbox. Sure, she might not throw the beam very far, but I feel it's contact range more than makes up for it.
*Thank you for this one, Densuo* Apparently, if you BD this move, the beam she will shoot at the rod will go right through the opponent, so if you're gonna use this, better commit to it.

 

~And all commitments that I'm thinking off~ You wouldn't get that from any other girl~ I just want to tell you how I'm feeling~ Gotta get that DLC~ Never gonna CSb, it was not meant to be~ But I have a real nice amekyan~ Now I'm gonna go and fly, then I'm gonna say goodbye~ Gonna let you dieee~ And hurt you~ >:D
 

[ABC] Sniper Rifle
Assault: 193
Blast: 180

- As the name suggests, it's a sniper shot. A really FAST sniper shot. Comes with muzzle correction too. Shop smart. Shop Z-mart. You got that!?

MA Mode Move List

Double-clicking 22, 44, 66 or 88 while holding C will transform Roux into an airplane!
Holding the C or just holding the stick in any direction will keep Roux in this mode, but if you hold the C, you lose your AC shot in this mode. Better not be flying drunk. If you let the stick fall back to neutral, Roux will go back to her normal form. Also, pressing B during this mode will have Roux homing in on the opponent. Now, I am pretty sure there's fun combo's to be had with this, but I am by no means an expert on combo's.

[A] Beam Rifle
Ammo: 6
Damage: 70
- Same as in her regular mode. This shares ammo with her regular mode, so keep that in mind.

 

 

[AB] Twin Shot Attack
Ammo: 5
Damage: 50
Reload time: ~3-4 seconds??
- This move....is certainly unique. You can totally Zunda with this though. I am unsure of how well it tracks without testing this on a moving opponent.


[AC] Mega Blast Attack
Ammo: 1
Damage: 130
Reload time: ~10-11 seconds
- Roux will fire a blast attack towards the opp- Oh, you already knew this? Well, it shares the same attributes as her regular mode AC, so not too much to say here.

Melee moves

[5B] A simple slash. Self explanatory.

[8B] A shoulder tackle sending the opponent in the air.

[4/6B] A small sidestep into a shoulder tackle. This one doesn't send the opponent flying though.

[2B] A Beam Javelin, which will stun the opponent for a good amount of time. You can do an AC followup after this, which has Roux charge in with with her machet(??) You can totally do combo's after this. Have fun~

Cancel Routes

~Work in progress~

Combo's

~Work in progress~

Differences between Roux Zeta and Kamille Zeta

So some things I noticed right of the bat:

Let's actually look at what Roux and Kamille have in common~
Both their mains have 6 ammo, and can be refilled manually after it's empty.
Both Roux and Kamille have 2 Grenades to use. Their AC and BC also share the same ammo. 1 each.
Their BC both have the same charge time: 5 seconds.
Roux can do 2B > BZ, just like Kamille can.

That's as far as first-hand similarities I can find.

Roux has 560HP. Kamille has 620. Pretty much expected from a change in cost.


Roux does not have a CSb. I am not even sure what regular Zetas' CSb does... So I don't know if this is really that big a loss.


Roux' Grenades recharge 2 seconds slower than Kamilles'. Same goes for her AC, which recharges 2 seconds slower than Kamilles' also. Only 2 seconds? Well, I play Luna Impulse which long as heck recharge times, so... to me, this doesn't feel too problematic. Refreshing, more like it.


Roux' BC travels a slight bit less far than Kamilles'. But only slight. Another expected change?

Video's

Credit goes to Donkey_Show
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bg0heCzPek
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNmud_vQjxw

Edited April 6, 2014 by WindmanV3

[Deculture]

Played for about an hour with this tonight:

- Moveset is exactly the same as 2.5k Zeta minus CSb Methuss.

- Seems like all cancel routes are still there on Roux Zeta (someone should double check on this)

- EXBurst is a sniper shot (Cherudim/Ex-S beam speed) that also propels Roux Zeta backwards - super armor on startup.

All in all a fun suit that basically has all the bells and whistles of its 2.5k counterpart with the downside that it is fairly squishy (560hp, putting it on the lower end for 2k health pools).

[WindmanV3]

I was going to make a post on that, but I'll just add it in the big picture. I did some small things on Lacus and Luna Impulse too, and now Roux Zeta, and potentially other DLC in the future which might interest me. Gotta love dat DLC.

But yeah, I feel Roux is pretty good for a 2k, same way with Luna Impulse. They've got pretty good stuff despite their lesser cost and boost usage.

[AirMaster]

Differences between Roux Zeta and Judau Zeta

Should be Kamille Zeta and not Judau.

[WindmanV3]

Should be Kamille Zeta and not Judau.

Fix'd. I do not know my Gundam, so I ended up getting them confused...

[WindmanV3]

If anyone can help me out on the cancel routes, I'd greatly appreciate it. I do know she has 2B > AB for a fastfall. I'll be playing some matches with Roux later and see what else I can find out.

[donkey show]

A couple quick gameplay vids I took last night:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bg0heCzPek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNmud_vQjxw

EX Burst Attack has nice muzzle correction similar to how GP03A's gerobi works. You can see it track in the second video.

Also, CSb on regular Zeta shoots out the Methuss which heals your partner for a certain amount.

[WindmanV3]

I don't know what GP03A's gerobi is like, nor do I understand the term "nozzle correction" fully. But I'll add these to the videos section~

[donkey show]

Cool deal ^^

And here's the definition to muzzle correction from Brett's guide: https://sites.google.com/site/unlimitedbrettworks/gundam-extreme-vs/full-boost-transition-guide

"refers to a move’s ability to track its target during startup"

[WindmanV3]

I compleeeetely forgot to mention Roux also has the ability to transform into an airplane!! Updating that RIGHT NOW.

[Deculture]

Yes, waverider mode is still present and is super useful for evasion/kiting just like on 2.5k Zeta. Here's a clip from the games I played last night: http://www.twitch.tv/exertim/c/3830525

Rofl @ those videos btw Donkey, loving the space jam remix with the Zeta theme.

[WindmanV3]

That, and I LOVE how he's using the Meer navigator. That's some good taste, my man.

[Densuo]

I want to make a note if I may:

[bC] Stun Blade. if you Boost dash cancel after the shot is fired it will do NOTHING. the opponent can stand there and the beam will go RIGHT through them and not do any damage. You must commit to the move.

optimal uses for THE ROCK? its a bit troubling that BRs plow through it

[Densuo]

also ABC super. it has armor. I was getting hit by a melee assist and She fired the sniper shot anyway

[Densuo]

http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm23024714

 

Video on Nico Nico showing differences between Kamille and Roux Zeta

[WindmanV3]

That's incredibly helpful! 

 

Sadly, my JP skills are non-existant. But I think I'm able to make out some of it, and that's only because of the visuals... 

I'll get cracking on this though. I can make it a separate post.

[WindmanV3]

Yeah, I don't think I can do this...

I don't know which alphabet I'm supposed to use... I thought katakana at first, but that didn't get me anywhere. 
I think I have most of the stuff down.

 

Some of Roux' combo's do a bit less damage.

Also, Roux does not get super armor during her burst. 

I thought that was interesting too.

 

Those appear to be the most notable changes. I'm guessing they added some small extra info, but eh....

[Cosmic Lullaby]

She does have super armor on her super. She has super armor before she fires her shot, iirc. I don't know for sure since I haven't bought her yet.

[Tari]

Only glanced at the video, but the majority of it seems to just be about the damage nerfs, reload nerfs, less boost, less health, and shorter red lock.

@cosmic: I'm assuming he's talking about the passive super-armor on everything that Zeta and Double Zeta normally get when they're bursted. Roux does not get that passive.

[WindmanV3]

Yeah, that's what I meant. I know her super gets armor, but she does not share Kamilles' resistance to BR's, in the sense that she flinches and Kamille does not.

[WindmanV3]

Roux Roll'd

 

[bC] Stun Blade
Ammo: 1
Damage: 123
Reload time: 5 seconds
- Roux will throw a blade, then shoot her BR at it, causing it to explode and stun anyone near it's explosion, which has a pretty BIG hitbox. Sure, she might not throw the beam very far, but I feel it's contact range more than makes up for it.
*Thank you for this one, Densuo* Apparently, if you BD this move, the beam she will shoot at the rod will go right through the opponent, so if you're gonna use this, better commit to it.

 

 

~And all commitments that I'm thinking off~ You wouldn't get that from any other girl~ I just want to tell you how I'm feeling~ Gotta get that DLC~ Never gonna CSb, it was not meant to be~ But I have a real nice amekyan~ Now I'm gonna go and fly, then I'm gonna say goodbye~ Gonna let you dieee~ And hurt you~ >:D

[Cosmic Lullaby]

@cosmic: I'm assuming he's talking about the passive super-armor on everything that Zeta and Double Zeta normally get when they're bursted. Roux does not get that passive.

 

 

Yeah, that's what I meant. I know her super gets armor, but she does not share Kamilles' resistance to BR's, in the sense that she flinches and Kamille does not.

 

Oh. You meant that she doesn't have bio-sensor during activate. Then yeah... Roux needs to be like Kamille and gather energy from dead people via newtype powers.  Kappa

 

And for Zeta, it's not really passive. You have to be doing an action (i.e. firing BR or meleeing) for the super armor to kick in. If you're just boosting around and not doing anything, then the super armor is pretty much non-existent.

[WindmanV3]

Oh, is that how it works? o3o That's still pretty cool.

 

Honestly, I kinda wish Roux would have that too and maybe a CSb but with a different effect but eh... 

[Tari]

Oh. You meant that she doesn't have bio-sensor during activate. Then yeah... Roux needs to be like Kamille and gather energy from dead people via newtype powers.  Kappa

 

And for Zeta, it's not really passive. You have to be doing an action (i.e. firing BR or meleeing) for the super armor to kick in. If you're just boosting around and not doing anything, then the super armor is pretty much non-existent.

Hence why I said "on everything," haha. Since it's not something you have to actively turn on after you burst, I consider it a passive effect gained by entering awakening with that suit, but I suppose it can be argued the other way, too. Probably should've just been more clear when I was writing.

Thanks for actually saying what it's called, by the way. Couldn't remember "bio-sensor" for the life of me. :|

Is it worth comboing into her super, do you guys know? It seems sorta measly when compared to Zeta and ZZ's giant purple swords of death, haha.

[Cosmic Lullaby]

Is it worth comboing into her super, do you guys know? It seems sorta measly when compared to Zeta and ZZ's giant purple swords of death, haha.

 

I would say that it's not worth it unless you're going to get the game winning kill with it. Other than that... No.