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okay so, i just figure out something watchin a japanesse video, well this more often but if your opponent is getting hit by the frog espcially in the corner, you wait till bout the 7th hit of the frog and 3c, them forcing a knockdown. Here's the trick, that low level players dont know and high level players do. If your incredibly close to opponent when doing 3c frog they have enough time between the lag of setting down the frog to tech on the outside of th corner while getting hit by 3c. however because you can tech special cancel this shit is kinda gay.