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when are you attempting to 3c, after the opponent is hit by a frog? When you 3c, them make usre your spike hits there body frame where ever it is. If they are to high in the sky for a 3c to hit, do j.2c and bring them to the ground you can pumpkin aqfter ward on landing or while airborn. if they dont tech immediately chase them with your pumpkin if they tech roll. BBl is a pretty flexable super does many things based on how you got the meter to do it in the first place. In cs, many of those things dont matter, guard libras system, wind regen, frog, damage, oki afterward, wont be getting as much meter like before.