Hasuke

See, I always roman cancel on GV since, being a rookie, I don't know the best RC combos I wind up doing GV, RC early if it's blocked so I can land behind em and hopefully get a sweep or BR. If it connects I wind up RCing into the HS VV, or BR. Generally whenever I use GV it's right after a forward HS hits and induces stagger, or when I'm doing what Orka said, dodging projects or high hit moves.

So yesterday I began to screw around with Sol in training and managed to beat boss I-No twice (nearing perfects on both accounts. I normally can't harm her with anyone but Slayer) so I figured I would consider getting better with Sol. I was looking around for some basic combos and stuff, and most seem to be for slash (I have no import capable PS2, and I use #R on xbox). anyways the main point of this is, I saw that his forward HS and Grand Viper are aparrently horrible moves to use. I use GV quite a bit, but mostly in combos or when the enemy is stunned. Is GV bad because it leaves an opening, or it just has a crappy effect? Also, I tried the whole wiggling the stick back and forth and mashing S and HS to increase the hits it does, like someone on here said. It didn't work for me, it seems.

Purify was right, and nah, I block it. It's just that's ALL he does. So the whole fight consists of low blocking the same three, readable moves, then wailing on him, blocking low again, wailing on him, you win. of course, the reason he thinks it's the greatest combo ever is because he can use it on rookies who've never played the game, beat them, and "not use trips all the time since only down + D is a trip, the others are knockdowns." And bleh, EX characters don't seem that broken to me. I mean, ya just gotta work around the new tactics (I actually like using EX-Sol, personally) But yeah, thanks for the advice and everything. The Y,B,A for RC's actually helps quite a bit (I used to use Y, X, A) so I don't run into the damn IK stuff anymore. I've managed to figure out some pretty basic RC combos with slayer, the only problem is I never really get a chance to use em as I can't seem to get tension fast enough. EDIT: And maybe I should use different characters? My friends tell me I'm pretty decent with Sol, however I veer away from him because a lot of people tend to use him (and pretty damn well mind you, so I feel intimidated picking him up), plus the dust loop is like a staple of playing him. Am I a moron =B?

Also, I have one more question. Why is it that EX characters, Justice, and Kliff are banned from tournaments? Last I checked EX characters are just the same charas with new moves. And Justice and Kliff are just more charas. What's the deal? I mean, if people are all "HEY NO JUSTICE OR KLIFF CUZ THEY'RE BROKEN :{!" Considering cornering and bug exploiting is allowed and considered part of the game, Is it really the Justice or Kliff user's fault that their opponent can't take them down? If their opponent was a skilled player I would have no idea how they couldn't find ways to counter those two.

Maybe I should clarify that I don't think throws are cheap. Hell. if I could pull them off on the spur of the moment I would use them a lot. My main problem is my reflexes are absolute shit. I can't pull off like, five moves, with FRC's flying out my ass like a lot of you can. (In fact, a lot of my chains/combos wind up coming in quick bursts.) I try doing combos people suggest and I wind up slipping up by pressing wrong buttons or cracking under stress, so I wind up sticking to my own tactics. So that all, plus no one in my area is any good at the game (we have a guy here who beleives that using all three of may's trips in sucession is the greatest combo ever made), so i can't really improove (and I'm sure AI is of no help, as many of you probably get fucking perfects on every fight on maniac)

Wait wait wait, so not using cornerwhoring tactics makes me not play to win by default? I beg to differ. I prefer not corner because yeah, I feel it's a cheap tactic, but I also get a rush off of the threat of having an opponent who isn't being assraped against an invisible wall. If anything, having that threat there makes my desire to win even bigger. Ah well, if that makes me a "scrub" then so be it.

In my personal opinion it's a cheap tactic. Kinda like the buffest member of the football team beating up the short fat kid at lunch. I dunno, is beating on someone restrained against a wall really a sign of how "badass" you are? Cause if anything it seems like you can't fight/combo WITHOUT the wall.

Thanks guys. and see, for some reason I have a hard time getting tension really fast (unless I use jam, because I can combo hits with her pretty damn well). So most of the time I wind up using overdrives as a kind of "high damage parry". Right before I get hit with a move I use one and wind up overriding their attack with my own. It's especially easy for me if I use Slayer's horizontal Overdrive, and Jam's Phoenix one (damn XX#R for not saying what the moves are called in the combo list) I suppose I'm too used to the SF type of play, haha. Especially when people list combos. Seeing numbers instead of QCF, HCF, etc throws me off. But yeah, I suppose I'll start trying to use them more. Managed to find a fairly damaging combo using an RC after Slayer's horizontal OD. I think I should also point out that cornering and whoring specific combos constantly really goes against my play ethics. That means I'm destined to lose, right?

Ok, there's 63 pages to this thread so I'm not sure if this question was answered. I'm fairly sure I'm an intermediate player (I can get perfects on Boss I-No on Maniac) however, I never use Roman Cancels (moslty on the grounds that my reflexes are complete and utter shit, and I use a xbox controler since I play XX#R, thus when I try to press just THREE buttons I wind up hitting four and going into the godamn IK mode.) So my question is, are roman cancels truly necissary for tournaments? I don't watch many tournament vids but those I did see, no one really used RCs, and those who did were primarily corner whoring. Now I'm sure in a tournament the rules go "if you don't corner, you die". Anyways, back on point. Can someone who never uses RCs, but manages to chain specials and hits into fairly decent combos stand a chance in a tournament? And one more thing. Those damned FRCs, I've gone into training and have been trying to time it just right, even with the button input key on to see when the bar flashes blue. Every time I press the three buttons, I pull off a regular RC. Oh, and if it's of any importance, the characters I play are primarily Slayer and Jam.