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GREG(Sinistar)!!!! Thats mah boi!!!! I see hes playing safer these days, im glad to see hes improving.

Ross- is that u ross ross? from vero beach? Indeed playing Venom isnt something learned overnight, ive been playing him since slash. Im still learning new things even now. I use freezy ball trick after punching a p ball and sticking the FB sa right behind it

I think so i tested it, good thing i didnt just take your word on that lol. it does cross up tho. I see alot of new ppl on the venom thread, sup peeps. how long u guys been playing with are favorite pool player?

SOmeone told me if u do FB j.236 D right on top of a player it can cross them over is that true? Ex. knockdown then 5p the p ball then air dash and do FB j.236 D right behind there head. Just a thought.

I see your point, im just trying to make the tightest pressure i can. I remember getting thrown by potemkin between a slight hole in my pressure. I enjoy using DC then right when they try to counter i will warp to the ball that was created and i can start the rushdown all over again (Hs ball then k ball i think)

Hey would rushdown with dubbie frc almost be a nice option for lockdown? I mean SA is godly but if its IBed or SBed can u get hit or thrown? I dont know how much advantage it gives u but it seems like alot. Every time i get a dubbie i can summon another ball without fear.

playing with that corner throw combo, its good. You can either go for an air combo that ends with a knockdown or just stay on the ground. Oh I stumbled on this, u can freeze a dubbie ball, that can actually be very scary.

Almost asked more than " How do i get clean hit on grand viper? lol. Its cool tho, its not easy to pick it up at first (hell i cant do it still conisistantly, dont practice that enough). When doing the 6p>6HS>S CR you want to start charging the carcass raid b4 u even see the 6hs come out. Once done right you will see the 6hs cancel into the carcass raid. I still do 6p>6HS> p ball summon> 6p>6hs> p dubious curve For lockdown purposes i see N.O. do s ball summon into 2s a few times and it locks the person into block. It even combos if done right, when ending into a stinger aim frc into more pressure. Any tips on good way to start this? I think i used to just punch a ball as there getting up then start that kinda pressure. Tensionless pressure ftw lol.

This is ust my opinion mind you, not saying im better, lol. Hmm that venom hit alot of unnecessary balls, he could of waiting alittle bit more in the earlier round. I used to make that mistake as well, hitting a summoned ball just because u summoned it. Half the time the slayer just jumped over it. He got that 6p,6hs, CR better than me, i still need to master that.

Use a p dubbie or summon a ball by them when there knocked down. Then run up jump (they might to throw you or do a wake up) then do j. 236D. if they have an uppercut then u careful with that. Hey if u slashblack a dp in the air could u j.236D on the way down for a counter hit. Im gonna have to test that.

summoning a p ball after a partially charged FB CR is so nice, and looks good too. I dont know about just copying vids sometimes i like going in training mode or just discussing combos with peeps. I actually never see venoms use the freeze ball at all, just a few instances when i saw N.O use it. That could just be me tho. Watching jap vids of venom is very educational for the most part. as for 2kxx6p, i do that after a rep or 2 of Dubbies in the corner and end with a p dubbie. Trippies: FB Sa after hitting a p ball is good sometimes, you would be suprised of how many ppl get hit by a stationary ball. As for punishing techs... ill do either 6p, 6hs if they tech a little high or just an airthow into knockdown to be safe. Best thing is when ure opponent burst when ure doin pressure and u frc your SA then IB then combo, too sweet but doesnt happen too much. Oh yeah ive been playing alot of anji lately as well, does venom have any good High jump combos? I messed around with it for like less than 5 mins. something like k, JI, s hJ into something. Ill mess around with it tonight and see if i find something useful.

yeah im trying to get that j.s,j.hs, j.d consistantly but yeah i space it out and it typically works and then i can do 6p into whatever. *looks at all the stuff trippies put* Good stuff man, u got aim or msn? When i freeze Fb ball i typically do it after punching a p ball so its right behind it. The good thing is that u can mix it up by either putting a normal Stinger Aim behind it or even cancel it when u see them dash then u get a free AA (6p,6HS).

There you go lol. Credit to Iceprince

I am annoyed with this matchup because the friend i play uses sol and its hard to keep him lock down when he has the damm uppercut to get him out. What i do is with a knockdown ill cancel the 2nd hit of the sweep (actually im not sure if its better to cancel it on the first hit because some characters get up slower if they fall either on there back or their face.)with a HS ball summon. When wakes up warp and it will cross him up which screws up his command to uppercut and ull get a free j.s into combo. Its just a game on really capitalizing on sol's mistakes but a good sol wont make the apparent to much. Is it me or venom takes a little but to turn around in the air because if he did turn around u could rly make that cross up rly worth it with a j.s, j.236 D, 6p, 6hs into foolishness or combo into dubbie. Ky annoys me because after he does his combos then knockdown hes doing to do a combo that start with 5k and that beats out my throws all day long. Maybe i should try practicing slashback for that.

no worries i was just seeing how he used the a freeze ball in a match. btw thx darkhonor that was a nice match, i havent fought a good order sol yet but he sure is kinda scary.

u got a link to that nanasi match? i actually seen n-otoko way more in Ac than nanasi. there both real good venoms.

Played Practice mode for a bit yesterday... Been playing with the "Freeze pop" formations, u can do partially charged FB CA then release and then do a stinger aim and that sticks it. Depending on who ure fighting that could help. Sometimes ill knock a p ball at the person and have the FB SA kinda charged and stick it behind that. Works great if ure by the corner, because if they opponent messes up the "black hole" will suck them in, lol Hey is the freezy setups a ps2 only thing? I never see any jap venoms use it, maybe they didnt think it was useful. For some reason I keep messing up the 6p,6hs, S CR loop. I just finally got a nice bit of time in practice mode tho. I found out you can do either: 1.6HS, p ball summon, 6p, 6hs, RC, 6p, 6HS, p ball summon, run up 6p, 6HS, 623 Hs 2. ( counter hit) 6p, 6HS, p ball summon, 6p, 6hs, RC, 6p, 6HS, p ball summon, run up 6p, 6HS, 623 Hs (1 would be the normal way of getting someone hit be they combo, 2 woul be if u beat there jump in or random counter hit) 3. (Corner) IAD j.s, j.hs, j.D, land 6p, 6hs, p ball, 6p, 6HS, RC, run up 6p, 6HS, p ball summon 6p, 6HS, 623 Hs 4. (Corner) IAD j.s, j.hs., J. 236D, land 6p, 6hs, p summon cancel, run up 6p, 6HS, FB 623 D (for knockdown) Actually to change up u can eliminate the RC and just do a FB DHM for the knockdown to continue pressure. You sacrifice a rep but more pressure for venom is good too. How much damage does a normal 6p, 6HS, S CR do? The combos above to seem to elaborate but they do 170+ without guard bar (with the RC of course). I think i did like 220 something on dizzy. LOl i dont even want to think of chip. All these combos were done on sol, ky, dizzy, potemkin, and jam. Jam is wierd tho, she seems to fall alittle farther than everyone else. I hope there combos help somewhat, always reading what u guys put up, so I thought i would try to help.

Played Practice mode for a bit yesterday... Been playing with the "Freeze pop" formations, u can do partially charged FB CA then release and then do a stinger aim and that sticks it. Depending on who ure fighting that could help. Sometimes ill knock a p ball at the person and have the FB SA kinda charged and stick it right behind that. Works great if ure by the corner, because all u have to do is FD there offense and u can push them into the mini "black hole". Hey are the freezy setups a ps2 only thing? I never see any jap venoms use it, maybe they didnt think it was useful. For some reason I keep messing up the 6p,6hs, S CR loop. I just finally got a nice bit of time in practice mode tho. I found out you can do either: 1. 6HS, p ball summon, 6p, 6hs, RC, 6p, 6HS, p ball summon, run up 6p, 6HS, 623 Hs 2. (counter hit) 6p, 6HS, p ball summon, 6p, 6hs, RC, 6p, 6HS, p ball summon, run up 6p, 6HS, 623 Hs 3. (Corner) IAD j.s, j.hs, j.D, land 6p, 6hs, p ball summon, 6p, 6HS, RC, run up 6p, 6HS, p ball summon 6p, 6HS, 623 Hs 4. (Corner) IAD j.s, j.hs., J. 236D, land 6p, 6hs, p ball summon, run up 6p, 6HS, FB 623 D (for knockdown) 5. 5D, J.s. j.hs. j.d, 236 Hs land 6p, 6hs, p ball summon, run up 6p, 6hs, FB 623 D. Actually you can eliminate the RC and just do a FB DHM for the knockdown to continue pressure on some the above combos. You sacrifice a rep of damage but more pressure for venom is better at times. How much damage does a normal 6p, 6HS, S CR do? The combos above to seem to elaborate but they do 170+ without guard bar (with the RC of course). I think I did like 220 something on dizzy. LOl i dont even want to think of chip. All these combos were done on sol, ky, dizzy, potemkin, and jam. Jam is wierd tho, she seems to fall alittle farther than everyone else. I hope there combos help somewhat, always reading what u guys put up (keep up the good work guys), so I thought i would try to help, lol.

for the ppl that still play is there a place on irc where u guys chat b4 matches? AC is so sexy tho, but playing reload is fun too. Venom is so crazy now.

noone is there, everyone is playing accent core lol.

lol, anyone have vent on there computer already? Probably ppl to busy using it for wow. Lets try to set this up and get ppl on it. might be fun

Has anyone thought of using Teamspeak or Vent for this yet? It would be cool to have some chat while playing. btw is that temp channel on irc still on for gg?

hmm thats wierd, i didnt get to change my router settings. What i did find out is when i connected directly to the cable instead of the router i could see a friend that was no response. Only thing was it would let us pick our character then go back to the lobby. You guys think i should go back to 109.3 or something?

OOOO thanks a ton Spicy i will be watching these replays. I really appreciate it. Now it makes sense i played all these guys right when i started playing online, explains the beatings i recieved.

Im sorry but whats a DMZ, adn how do i go about setting that up?