Shyn

Hmm no old 6B, 6C is mid and still FC. (being a mid, the P1 might be better) Will I finally get to drop-kick people for punishes!?

I'm wondering if they made 6C not an overhead, or something.

Do you guys know if there's a meaningful oki difference between ...5B>2C>jBABBC and ...5B>5C>jBABBC mid screen? I'm wondering because, since 5C does more damage than 2C now, I'm considering just using it every time instead of character-specific. I always wondered because 5C doesn't float as high. So in theory there'd be less time for oki. But in practice it hasn't seemed consequential to me.

It works against everyone, but 5B>236A isn't consistent on some chars, like Azrael. I always use 5C after the wj.A, which is consistent. The wolf brake is not done with 6D, but 3D. The downwards ones are ever so slightly faster which makes this link possible. It's a pretty hard link, so a lot of players opt for a 3C>236A combo instead for consistency.

Yeah I would say off N starters that loop is never worth it. It's kind of personal preference/situational off S starters.

Oh ok so you're doing human pressure. Eh, just start doing things that will call out fuzzy jump. Delayed lows. They made our late chain into 3C much longer, which makes it easier. eg. 6B>2A>5B>delay>3C. I guess if they're jumping you trying to do 2A>5D, then do 2A>2B or just 2A>2A delayed to catch jump startup. If you wanna do a super obvious call out, you can just gatling into 6B from like 2B or 5B (maybe 2A). It usually is about the right amount of delay to catch them. The key to beating fuzzy jump is basically just delay strings, but then you can usually get mashed out. That's the RPS of it. If they get hit for it a few times they'll stop doing it and you can do whatever. (Or you just keep hitting them) In general the answer is to use wolf oki! :D PS: When you say, "going for 6D mixup," do you mean like human stuff into 6D? If so, that's something you should only do rarely if you think you'll catch the opponent sleeping.

Hmm. Actually, wolf form Valk is one of the characters that fuzzy jump doesn't really work against. If they're jumping out a lot there's probably other problems. What kind of situations was he jumping out in? Also, hi guys. I might be semi-active again. Planning on starting to play again in a month or two.

rofl I'm stealing this to post on twitter sorry. PS: FYI it's probably just whiffing because he's so close. I think that happens in this game sometimes, too.

Hmmm maybe. That'd be nice. He was really high so I can see why it'd miss most of the cast. I don't think it'd hit Relius. It might have only hit Hakumen caus of the 2D.

Is there evidence of this? That would be pretty sweet. (Dammit sorry double-post. I meant to add this to the previous one but spaced.)

It doesn't. According to Suuya, only works on Tager now: https://twitter.com/ss_suya/status/520401649853267968 I'm actually a bit surprised it even hits Tager.

Ohh you meant air hit wj.A > w5C, didn't you?

You think so? The unusually long untech time and the hitstun on wj.A were both like custom and had nothing to do with move level, so I'm not sure they're necessarily related. In the loketest they were both heavily nerfed, though. In any case, hooray brjA is back!

Yeah. That scenario would be the most extreme. I'd kinda understand people freaking out over that, haha. But I don't think it's very likely at all.

Talking about the changes before the release is fun, but please realize that it's essentially just for fun. With all the madness of the loketest, I don't think players of any character really know what to expect here. My take on it is that maybe he'll be very different. Maybe he won't be a mixup character anymore. If they do that, they'll have something else in mind for him. But I think it's more likely that a lot of the things we saw in the loketest don't make it into release. (or they give him some new mixup.) Then again, I'm not especially attached to a gameplay design. I just like butlers. So unless they just utterly decimate the character none of it really matters to me. I think some of you might be afraid they actually are going to decimate him. I think it's unlikely. That kind of thing usually ends up happening because it's difficult to balance a character or they're really gimmicky. Frankly, I think he's pretty balanced in 1.1 and he's not gimmicky.