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Are you getting a Fatal Counter on the C launch? You need to land exactly 14 All-Out Rush hits for it.

Dealing 10.5k+ damage is probably not a necessity if you're already running Mudoon, since you're hopefully facing an opponent who you built meter against by landing a few hits, rather than one who took you straight to Awakening yet isn't in the corner (seeing as how 5C 5B 2C isn't particularly strong corner carry), or one who let you Gold Burst straight into a 5C starter loop. 236A > B Shots off of Sweep starter makes sense since Sweep doesn't go into anything else except SB fangs (which leads to death), though I was thoroughly confused about choosing such a route off of 5C starter. My execution is poor but I can try to write up a bunch of easy proper 50/75 SP setups sometime. I imagine important factors will be - carry distance, meter gain pre-Mudoon/SP-use, damage?

I was just questioning one of the combos listed on the thread OP. 5C > 2AB > 236A~Bx5 seems like a terrible way to start but it builds meter I guess. Actually, just do this instead: 5C>5B>2AB>236A~Bx5>236236D>214C>(214C hits)>5AA>SMPx9>236A~D (50 meter, 6.5k damage) I'm still honestly confused about the use of sweep>a fangs>b shots>mudoon lol.

movelist translation Naoto Shirogane Furious Action 正義の盾 Shield of Justice - (triggers on opponent’s attack) B+D (requires Persona) => 力ウンターショット Counter Shot - (when Shield of Justice is triggered) A/B/C/D or 6A/B/C/D (requires Persona) => セーフティー Safety - (when Shield of Justice is triggered) 4A/B/C/D (requires Persona) Skills ニ連牙 Double Fangs (AIR OK) - 236A/B 狙撃構え Aim - 214A/B => 狙撃 Snipe* - A/B/C or 6D => 構え解除 Cancel Aim - D or 214A ベノンザッパー Blight - 236C/D (requires Persona) 感圧起爆型メギド Hair-Trigger Megido (AIR OK) - 214C/D (requires Persona) SP Skills 対S事案用特殊小銃:甲型 Anti-S SP Pistol a (AIR OK) - 236236A 対S事案用特殊小銃:乙型 Anti-S SP Pistol ß (AIR OK) - 236236B ハマオン/ムドオン Hamaon/Mudoon - 236236C/D (requires Persona) Awakening SP Skills ホールドアップ! Raid* - 214214A/B then A/B クリティカルシュート Critical Shot - 214214A/B then C/D * = Naoto has 5 shots during snipe stance, and 3 shots during raid stance.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LQtJPF6gdYRcqC1JtDxeEbD7qwlUxbyWnBJ5OwMSsRk/edit?usp=sharing Just finished transcribing the command list and translating what I could, in case anyone wants a textbook reference. :V

Yeah, I already pre-ordered the JP copy. Also, I'm totally playing Naoto now. Just not very well. :V

I might play Bullet in BBCP, but I haven't been interested in the game enough to watch vids or do research so I won't know for sure until I actually get the game. Is P4A gone up there?

gg's, MotokoChill!

GGs to those I played tonight. I got blown up lol

...Have we met?

Isis was Empress in Persona 4. I think Personas just shift arcana based on how the devs see fit for the game.

Here you go. 5A > 5B > 2AB > 236AB > 236236D > 214D > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x13 -- 75 SP 5B > 2C > 236236D > 214D > 2AB > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2A > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x13 > 236B~CCCCC -- 50 SP 2A > 2AB > 236AB > 236236D > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x13 > 214214A/B~C/D -- 125 SP 2B > 5C > 236AB > 236236D > 214D > 2AB > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2A > 5B > {236B~D} x11 -- 75 SP (iad) j.A > j.B > 2AB > 236AB > 236236D > 214D > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x13 > 214214A/B~C/D -- 125 SP (iad) j.B > 2AB > 236AB > 236236D > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x11 -- 75 SP AoA~D > OMB > 236236D > 214D > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x13 > 214214A/B~C/D -- 100 SP, Burst 2AB > 236AB > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x11 -- 75 SP 5C > 2C > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 5AA > {236B~D} x13 > 236B~CCCCC -- 50 SP 2C > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 5AA > 5C > {236B~D} x13 > 236B~CCCCC -- 50 SP 2[C] > 5B > 2C > 236236D > 214D > 2AB > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x13 -- 50 SP 5DD > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 5AA > 5C > {236B~D} x11 -- 50 SP j.C > 2AB > 236AB > 236236D > 214D > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x11 -- 50 SP j.D > 5AA > 5C > 236236D > 214D > 2AB > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > {236B~D} x11 -- 50 SP 5CD > OMB > 236236D > 214C > 236236C (214C hits) > 214D > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x13 > 214214A/B~C/D -- 150 SP, Burst j.CD > OMC > j.C > 236236D > 214D > 2AB > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2A > 5B > 5C > {236B~D} x11 > 236B~CCCCC -- 100 SP BD~6A/B/C/D > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > OMB > 5C > {236B~D} x14 -- 50 SP, Burst 236A > OMB > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 5AA > 5C > {236B~D} x12 -- 50 SP, Burst fc 236B > 2A > 2B > 5C > 2[C] > 5B > 236236D > 214C > 214D (214C hits) > 5AA > {236A~D (214D hits) > 214D} x11 -- 50 SP, Fatal Counter 236AB > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 5AA > 5C > {236B~D} x10 -- 75 SP (firing stance) AAAAA > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A (214D hits) > OMB > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x13 > 236B~CCCCC -- 50 SP, Burst (firing stance) CCCCC > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~D (214D hits) > 2[C] > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x11 -- 50 SP 214C > 2B > 236236D > 214D > 2AB > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2A > 5B > 5C > {236B~D} x10 -- 50 SP 214D > 2[C] > 2B > 5C > 236AB > 236236D > 214C > 236236C (214C hits) > 2A > 5B > {236B~D} x10 -- 125 SP (not shown, Kanji only) 236236A (11 hits) > OMB > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x10 -- 100 SP, Burst 236236C > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 2B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 5AA > 5C > {236B~D} x12 -- 100 SP 214214A/B~A/B~C/D > OMB > 236236D > 214D > 2AB > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x9 -- 100 SP, Burst (cornered) 214214A/B~C/D > 2B > 5C > 236236D > 214D > 2A > 5B > 236A~B~D (214D hits) > 5AA > 5C > {236B~D} x10 -- 100 SP KOing 100% life Awakened Kanji combo at end (fc) 236AB > OMB > 236236D > 214C > 236236C (214C hits) > 214D > 236A~B~D > 2B > 5C > {236B~D} x21 -- 125 SP, Burst

http://youtu.be/F0QovFuvFWg Lethal SMP loops from everything (except gun supers)

http://youtu.be/F0QovFuvFWg Lethal SMP loops from everything (except gun supers)

5C>2AB>236A~Bx5>236236D>214D>5AA>236A~D (214D hits)>2[C]>dash 5C>SMPx6>236A~D (50 meter, 5.8k damage) This combo seems silly? Why would you put in the sweep so early? And ending the setup with 5C when you already started with 5C only hurts proration even more (not to mention only being necessary due to not being able to go straight into SMP from 2[C], even though 10 moves have been reached already by then)... Running 5B can reduce proration by a bit since you can combo into A bullets, or you can simply run a variant form of the 5B starter SMP combo (5C 5B 2C instead of 5B 5C 2C). 5C > 5B > 236A~Ax5 > 236236D > 214D > 2AB > 236A~D (214D hits) > 2[C] > 2B > SMPx9 > 236A~D (50 meter, 7.3k damage) 5C > 5B > 2C > 236236D > 214D > 5AA > 236A~D (214D hits) > 2[C] > 2B > SMPx13 > 236A~D (50 meter, 8.9k damage) EDIT: nvm, was writing another combo but you have this one listed under (skip 5C starter) for some reason

REVIVAL Still looking for active P4U players post-EVO~

It probably had to do with two things... 1. He got hit by Mudoon late into the super. I'm not sure if it only has the "absorb into middle of dark field" property in the beginning. 2. He extended his hurtbox with the j.B, which then immediately reverted when he got hit and put into the "hit" animation, placing him outside of range of the Mudoon for any further hits. The rest of the behavior of Mudoon is expected.

GG's to Wman253! Reminding me that there are still strong players out there keeping the game alive.

ggs to those I played in NYGamer's lobby tonight.

What didn't work when you tried it on yourself?

Experimented some (super-cancel-safe) punishes for Mitsuru/Narukami blocked DPs, let me know if these are good. vs Mitsuru: ch 5A 5C 2B 236C 236A/B (2.37k) pretty simple, a bit more damage output than the standard 5AA air-combo punish and has 236C ender if you want to do the safe-jump setup off of that. vs Narukami: (walk behind) ch 5B 5C 2B 236C 236A/B (2.6k) (walk behind) ch 5B 214C 236A/B (2.7k) 11f punish compared to 2B's 18f, for about 1200 less damage but giving crucial time to be able to step behind Narukami within the punish window. 5B whiffs/gets invuln'd on certain timings of super cancel Ziodyne, allowing Kanji to instead set up a fatal counter punish lol. If it whiffs vs super cancel Cross Slash you should recover in time to 214C/214C+D/214214C during Narukami's recovery.

Asus VH238H is actually the EVO standard monitor. If you entered any of the main games (besides Smash) at EVO, those were what you were playing on.

ggs Syrbal- and JudgeLB, whoever you guys are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZVwoeTlnlU http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QJ7FgTS6TM https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wNgdrZ86J9oM5AjF-omU_6KT626-ApP6k-B4Rqk-OHE/edit?usp=sharing All/most of the practical stuff that's not prone to drop over awkward timings. : P

Thanks! Still trying to work 5C out of my game, and yeah I love the air too much. I guess Touhou fighters taught me that the ground is lava or something.