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This is exactly the kind of thing I was looking for. His R Action has such an awkward animation and punishment timing that I hate dealing with it offline let alone online where things don't always run so smoothly. Thanks for the info!

Anyone have any advice for this match-up? I finally ran into a non crappy Ellizabeth player and the dude was an absolute killer. Pretty much just spaced out a bit and used those mix ups she has built into her persona moves and that stupid yoyo and it beat out every option I had for free. At the range that he stayed at (about 2 - 3 steps back) I couldn't really get anything going. I would either get beat out if I tried to attack with anything, or try A+C and get caught up in a block string that's still out of range of B+D. My apologies for the awful move descriptions, or if this post is in the wrong place, but any advice on how to approach this match-up would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

A lot of characters beat it out with their Anti Air/B+D move on reaction, but I understand not everyone has that luxury which is why I made the "TOO good" comment. Would be pretty damn hilarious though. :D

I just wish the EX version at least would catch duckers. I guess that might be TOO good though...

You talking about SB Cruel Attack or the grab cancel? I was referring to mixing in the grab cancel with occasional B cruel attacks in pressure situations because I don't really know where else to fit it in off of that cancel. It is a great tool to keep people honest with their zoning and jump ins though.

I want to believe that there's a way to mix in the 214A/B cancel in there, but the damn move is just too easy to beat out with pretty much zero effort.

Dunno about the super armor, but I am pretty sure that the B version of cruel attack is + on block. At least it played out that way when I tested it a bit in training. Has anyone else tested this and gotten different results?