Darmonde

Thanks, Diarmuid and RandomNaoto for answering beginner Qs, especially since I'm so behind. Re-reading the updated doc now.

The doc is working for me now, not sure what happened yesterday, thanks! The AOAs do seem hard to rank since they vary in so many ways. Unfortunately at my level everyone is mashing, so I was trying to use it to blow through things, and it always seemed to get hit even though it was very far in the animations. Thanks for the explanation about its armor. It also seems to have a really short range, but I'll keep the details in mind. Edit: this doc is amazing! Read the whole thing, thanks much for it. A couple questions/notes. If these are answered elsewhere feel free to just let me know where. -236A+B you mention is only 1 frame faster startup than B version?? I never seem to be able to combo into the B version, but can easily combo into the AB. I guess most of that is because the A+B version has a huge starting hitbox? I was surprised you just glossed over this, it seemed like her only reliable special move ender midscreen. Maybe I'm giving it too much credit. -I feel like I have a lot of problems with the range of her normals. 5A is good but its so short, you can't use it to punish almost any AoA or DP on block. I've just resorted to 5B 5C 2C for tiny damage and 2 skulls when I successfully block a dp or AoA, is there something else I can do meterless? -5AAA can be cancelled into 214B (either with the motion or another A) on block which may help a tiny bit to keep you safe. Might be worth mentioning, but maybe not. -If someone blocks a double fang and you get them to block 5 shots point blank then stance cancel right away, do you know the frames? It seems fairly safe, -5? I haven't gotten severely punished for this, but if this is a bad idea I don't want to get into the habit of doing it. I'll read through this thread so maybe some of these will get answered then also. Thanks again to everyone for the wiki and to you for this doc. I was a little disappointed at first with the small number of Naoto threads, but there is really good info here.

Hi all, just started P4A recently. The pastebin doc is unfortunately not loading for me, I'll check back later on it. I have a bunch of random questions, but I'll try to read through this thread and look at the matchup posts first. Honestly I have very little experience, so just playing will probably answer a bunch of things. One quick question though, I felt that Naoto's aoa was really bad, but it was mentioned just a few posts ago that it was one of the best in the game. Why is that? I'm mainly comparing to teddie and yukiko's, since those are the 2 characters I have the most experience with.