thanks for the vids tager time. those will help alot. I think im still in the early learning phases of tager i guess, considering its been so long since ive played him.. which is frustrating cuz i used to know all his stuff, now i just feel like a beginner again lol. anyway im gunna look into pos getting a fightstick cuz my hands after like 30 mins of play start to hurt from holding the controller so tight haha. thanks for all the help. you guys will be spared this christmas :D