At least they are better than Relius.
Either way, it is ironic that he want to create a perfect doll before remake the world without any gods, so only him matters? I know how Relius play and how he despise the world. It is a personal matter of view about to see him as a big villain pulling all these strings, yet knowing what he is doing somehow makes sense in some way.
And Poultrygeist it is okay if you don't consider Ragna and Bang good people, I respect that and agree with some of your motives, but even with those rudeness/weirdness of they, we all know they are good and sometimes kind hearted.
I wonder what Relius did being sage One and why did he left. Geez, too many questions about the story, don't even know how to start...