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Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
According to Terumi's Act 3 ending he obtained a cube which was in the reality Hihiirokane. In the past it was used by a Tomonori as a wepaon (Jubei brother). Terumi was speaking to himself that with this material he can create a perfect vessel. I suppose that cube-shape it's a pure undefined form of Hihiirokane so probably Terumi will "forge" another Susuano'o Unit from it. So... another argument or a small clue that all Sankishin might have been made by humanity... Oh I forgot to mention that this material it's also from Age of Origin. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Bunch of screens from the CF opening (originally made by Zedar90): Opening as well (linked by Calamitus first) And some which I did What the hell is that !? More potential Black Susanoo Random: -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
If you compared Yamcha to Bullet then I will use another example from Dragon Ball -> Think about Azrael as a Saiya-jin (maybe Vegeta before Frieza saga): cruel, simple-minded and proud. They might give him some backstory but now he is a more a neutral-ground villain. He doen't care about anything but the rest of the crew need to be worried about his actions. That's... quite awesome. He probably doesn't possess any grimoire but I won't be really surprised if he has some connotation with Black Beast (that crimson/red aura for nothing???). Of course it's a wild speculation based on very small detail. Don't take it serious. There are too many beings in the game who would be able to feel potential source of his power. Another thought -> I think that Nine probably going to end as an anti-hero: Her priorities might change through the story. Even Ragna isn't so... obsessed(?) (hard to find much more proper word) about own sister. This theory (I mean Toya = Terumi) it's avoiding definitely too many facts from XB but still Terumi could meet with Ringo before XBlaze possibility became sealed. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Thanks for your hard work my friend. Eh because of my shitty duty on this day I couldn't be in Munich. It seems that Lost Memories' ES has become official. However "Imouto" Celica in the CF looks a little bit different than in Lost Memories. A screen from second PV Of course that isn't an amazing discovery. Except that Kiro is resemble to Es he is the only one person who had a vision about Es. However it might be just a way to predict Es' appearance in the game. -
So there is a total new melody like they did in the CP? Duh I was expecting that ArcSys will put "Stardust Memory" with burning sound effect again. The same theme which was in the CT and CS. In general I was hoping that the one very good tune and the most underatted as well "The Road To Hope" will be able to hear in the Central Fiction but because tone of this game seems to be even darker than Calamity Trigger I doubt about that possibility. The same thing with jazzy/bossa-nova like "Lakeside". On the other hand Ragna is going to meet with Tao in the "Story" so there is a chance for more calm music. Es theme it's remixed and speed up track from XBlaze Code: Embryo (yes, yes I know that I am writing about obvius things) and originally it calls... just XBLAZE. However this remix... is amazing in the "Es" introduction. Definitely better then archetype.
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Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I'm glad you enjoyed it. ------------------------------------------- Whatever it's going to happen in the main story I really hope there won't be/aren't going to be any parental issues: I mean (mainly) that Amaterasu "Woman" won't turn out as a mother for any hero. I have been afraid about solutions like this since I read several manga where were also an adventures and travels through "dimension and time" (Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicle anyone?) like in the BB. It's really hard to point what these tattoos mean -> ES, Ragna, Naoto, Izanami, "The Girl", Noel and Nu-13 have them. Nu-13's and Noel's different from the rest. Probably because of their "Murakumo" status. What with the rest? Because of Azure-related possibility? It's too random to bring any reliable theory. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Enjoy: F**king photobucket and their resolution's changes. Download links to full-size pictures: http://www.mediafire.com/download/s4wszqdt67jmc2h/Famitsu+1.jpg http://www.mediafire.com/download/bm91b2l7edb4i7u/Famitsu+2.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Am I blind or what? How I didn't spot it earlier that Izanami has both Ragna's and Naoto's tattoos on her hmm let's call it uniform (She wears several clothes so I won't call it dress). The first Ragna's it's on the lower part of this uniform and second (Naoto) it's on her helmet. And Again: are they interesting but non plot-related details which have been brought by creators to confuse/play with us or some potential connection? -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I forgot to mention that "The Girl" tattoo/sign above her *ekhem* groin (they couldn't put it somewhere else eh?) is the same as Ragna's has on his collar (except of No.5). The tattoos which are Naoto, Noel and Nu-13 have looks differently. Isn't a *huge* detail but I found this interesting. I am curious if these particular things are going to have deeply meaning. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I'm afraid that „The Truth” is even worse and it might including more characters other than „The Girl”. However except of looks the other thing which Noel and ”The Girl” possess it's writing. I mentioned it in one of my first posts but the thing is if „The Girl” is the author of „book”. These flashbacks before Ragna's speech suggest that we are really coming to end and general atmosphere in the Central Fiction is going to be definitely darker than in Calamity Trigger. Ragna probably will rescue „The Girl” but not in the way like she has been wishing (a classic „white knight save the princess”) because he stated in his Act 3 that he will reject even god's desire. Still Saya's case is intriguing. I mean Ragna in the beginning of Chronophantasma was going to kill Saya by Kushinada's Lynchpin(!). What happened? Did he really accept Noel as Saya's replacement or/and he just assumed that Saya can't be saved and in order to realize the „greater aim” (mainly to put an end this entire conflict) he has decided to sacrifice her? Except of spare Terumi life where he had a reason he also spared Arakune, Jin and Nu-13. If I am able to understand why heroes don't really care about Tenjo (he „died” so he will need a vessel to act in the real world so ...„perish totally” within Kushinada's Lynchpin because your soul is needed Tenjo) it's not easy if we are speaking about Saya's life. Comparing Ragna's decision with his actions and words in previous games it looks so inconsistent and strange as well (even dumb). I am also wondering if they put Noel's „Nii-sama” for nothing in CP. You know „Only memories. Don't bother about it too much” so it's easily overthrowing further speculations BUT on the other hand these memories saved her from Arakune. Of course they might be artificial (because mainly/only soul contains memories) but I am just guessing if Noel-Saya potential relation will end only as „base/copy”. ----------------------------------- I hope I won't be punished for below offtop but I need to reply Yoshi. *Ekhem* Yo I think that I am able to understand your „feelings”. The truth is that Noel creation... No, to hell with this review's term. Noel... is just amazing. So simple but this simplicity is incredibly adorable. The modern games/movies/books usually have a deep-traumatized-overdramatized characters and in all this mix you have an old archetype which is really fresh in these days. Her personality consits several warm traits: she is innocent, caring and lovely person. Her kindness and sensitive were enough to link several people through the story (I am including mangas, games and novels). The excellent thing is that ArcSys emphasized much more personality by her delicate looks. Noel is a gentle beauty who possesses cute face, elf-like blond hair, these green eyes which is looking so honestly and proportional body. She isn't another and typical „boobie lady (I don't mean Litchi. It's general statement). Like you see I don't call Noel „Angel” for nothing. Though Calamity Trigger fascinated me the Continuum Shift totally absorbed me into this world. The climax of Continuum Shift was so epic. In my opinion it's the best game-narrative in the BB series. First we have an occasion to kick Terumi ass badly, then we need to fight with Mu-12 in goal to save Noel and finally... this touching scene between them: Ragna's speech to Noel, Ragna's sacrifice, next Ragna who was laying on her legs, their conversation and... „Stardust Memory” in the background... I very like their subtle relationship. In BB-related creations Ragna seems to be kindly toward Noel. For example: I don't know by what characters Mori was inspired (maybe this his personal dream girl lol) but I really don't care. I am glad that we are able to enjoy Noel existence. Believe me. If something bad will happen to her or she will die I am going to drink a lot of booze. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Yeah, "allies" it's even more proper word. According to Ragna's Act 3 Tsubaki didn't use "Zero-Type" but I am not really sure how this weapon is working now since Izayoi became independent(?) being. She might has some consideration because her friends accept or/and like Ragna. However in this "relation" Ragna seems to be more open toward Tsubaki. Whoever she is it looks that she has grown all this time (even in the Boundary's conditions) but her mentality is probably child-like. I doubt that is Noel/Saya future self. Soul is the key. On the other hand... I suppose that "Lacking Lady" days are going to end for Noel lol. Taokaka will be surprised. This Rachel's falling is worrying me. Of course somehow it was predictable but the idea that "Queen of Rose" might die isn't happy. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Playing a little with dictionary and it seems like this: It's "yappari" -> "I thought so/I knew it" "anata wa" -> you are "shinnin" -> trust/confidence/acknowledge "dekinai" -> cannot (contraction of dekimasen) So she said that she knew that Ragna can't be trusted. I suppose both Ragna and Tsubaki won't become friends. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Where is the "Es Thing"??? Enjoy: So... "The Girl" except of left arm has also scars on left leg and from hip to stomach. Definitely longer hair than in act's previews and it seems that Ragna statement made in his Act 3's ending was right -> She is the woman. "Time to rebel against the end" eh? Ragna is still reffering himself as the "World's enemy" --------------------- I would say that Trinity has a plan. I won't stick with an idea that „Power of Order” might have suggested him a possible solution. I didn't mean that „all being outside of the Logic are considered gods” My statement might be too much „general” but in details I was thinking that mainly all beings outside of the Logic are related to seithr and Azure. If Jinnie wants to erase any „fantasy” from the world then he should also rethink a way how to seal Cauldrons, all Sankishin, Magic and maybe even limit human mind and soul to some point in goal to avoid potentially new conflict. However we still don't know with „which” mankind were fighting in the „Age of Origin” and „ancient times”. 1) Forgive me friend but I am not able to bring for you any reliable source . I was sure that it was stated by Rachel in the „Chronophantasma” thus I rewatch all 13 hours of story yesterday (japanese voices, english subs) to post a proper screen. Unfortunately I didn't see and hear as well any potential statement. Honestly Zedar brought this information first here. However it might be not enough for you and it's understandable. It seems that I need to check BBCPMC (Material Collection) so a battle with dictionary is going to happen. 2) Maybe we should clear up something about Prime Field Devices + add some informations from MC (Material Collections) and novels: a) Original Prime Field Device – Zeroth type. A failure, yes and like you said it somehow got a soul but nothing was stated that it became the „Eye of the Azure” or contacted with Master Unit. However according to Terumi's words in the Continuum Shift: "See, when it grew a soul, this prime field also developed the power of the Eye." (He was reffering to the 1st who contacted with Master Unit due to humanity experiments) it also should have a „power of the Eye”. It was a base probably for the rest of PFDs. In my theory it took a nice time travel through the Boundary. b) 1st Prime Field Device – the Prime Field Device which got in contact with Master Unit, possessed „Power of the Eye”, brought a lot of data (The Takamagahara System was created) and finally got destroyed (not the same as killed) by Zero-Type Izayoi and dumped in the Boundary. c) The Origin – the original toucher, the first being which ever contacted with Master Unit and became a wielder as well. Probably the Prime Field Device but thanks to several „acts 2” it seems that is a Murakumo Type PFD. It is making everything much more confusing because the first Murakumo was created AFTER all events with 1st Prime Field Device and Murakumos aren't soulless. Logic forces to think (how terrible statement made by me) that 1st Prime Field Device = „The Girl” and so „The Origin” not another PFD. Es' case was different but it seems that there might be several beings which possess „power of the Eye” but it doesn't make you automatically the „Successor” or/and „Successor” tittle doesn't force you to be a next wielder of Master Unit as well. However I have exluded conditions within the Boundary (time intersect) and possibly limited power to rewrite only 100 years. Of course in the main story something might be changed. 3) Seithr is still a mystery. It might be a basic material from the very beginning or it might be manmade creation as well. However because both Rachel and Amane are caring so much about Master Unit existence I think that even if humanity don't turn into seithr-state the world will turn and it won't take any shape. Maybe some gas-phase(?) like seithr naturally is. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I have been wondering recently if Jinnie's solution is it possible to realise -> the world without god and so (theoretically) without any creatures outside of the Logic. According to his Act 3 ending he wants erase Noel, Izanami and Ragna existence cause mainly "Power of Order" directing him to do it (by PoO "logic" they are mainly distorting whole world. I have exluded for a while several other facts from the game like Noel as "super entitled" etc. Just to mainly focus on Jin). Like we know there is a possibility to destroy (or much more proper word in the BB universe to kill) their souls and turn them into seithr by using Kushinada's Lynchpin. Ok but what with the Master Unit??? I mean the "Unit" not the wielder ("The Girl") so don't be confused. Like we saw in his Act 2 ending he destroyed the small piece of the Azure so he will probably reject this power as well (both the Azure and Sankishin). If he doesn't use Master Unit the world will disappear so his "solution" will end with the same result as Izanami's desire "World of nothingness" or Terumi's "True despair". Why? Because according to Terumi's words in the Continuum Shift Extend (Ragna Story Mode) and Coninuum Shift light novel and finally BlazBlue: Alter Memory episode 11 (I know the anime has an opinion as "terrible/shi*ty/thrash but the story is much more based on the novels than games) the world was destroyed and it seems it was before the Dark War and so it might be not possible to resurrect it (very doubtfully it will happen by Jinnie solution). Seithr is the basic material to create world and living creatures as well. Destroying Master Unit (the device) or send it without a wielder to Nemesis Horizon will turn everything into seithr-state. PoO it's a force to balance "things" by opposing them in the material world not to straighten-up or heal them. Finally this force isn't able to create something new so even if Jin's "Hero" point of view isn't motivating by his personal thoughts and goals it's false because there are several important facts and still many mysteries are waiting so I think we can't point Jin's solution as the absolute true. He and Tsubaki won't become a new Adam and Eve and won't bring a pure, material and non-Azure, non-Seithr related world. However let's suppose that he is going to use Master Unit. Who is he going to put into Sankishin then? Tsubaki? Trinity? Himself? And what with the rest godlike characters like Hakumen and Rachel? They can be perceived as gods as well. I am very curious about Saya's origin too. Her traits which I mentioned in the previous post plus fact that she is the "crystallization of seithr" make me to believe that she is the Zeroth Prime Field Device. Relius maybe didn't create her but only found and took in the Magic Guild. As seithr-being she shouldn't have a soul like Embryos ("crystallization of Azure", both Raquel and Hinata) or other Azure-related beings like Clavis. Black Beast also doesn't have a soul (Saya's abilities might be able to powered up the Black Beast). How did she get in the future? Like I said she may travelled through the Boundary in the same time with Relius after the Kusanagi's smelting process failed up. The key in the BB' universe is soul. Noel was needed as "Successor" to bring Master Unit from Nemesis Horizon -> they cheated the Cauldron/Azure by using Nu-13. Villains couldn't kill Noel because they would lose an occasion to bring "Doomsday" and there was still a small possibility that she would do another rewind of time to some point. Possibly fuse between Hazama and Nu-13 might be not able to realise because Nu would probably reject Hazama. By the way both Nine and Relius don't want to destroy Master Unit (the device) but only kill wielder ("The Girl") and replace it. Next they are going to create own world. How long this super entitled soul will exist (Noel) they won't be able to do it. The Azure choices seems to be not changeable. Noel doesn't want all this power but like we see "The Azure" doesn't care lol. I suppose that Ragna (and we as well) finally get the truth in the "world of gods" and it may be a way to save both "The Girl" and Noel. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Sooner or later Naoto will become an ally of Ragna, Rachel and Amane(?). Surviving of Amaterasu it's necessary for his world as well. However I don't like the idea to see him as the new protagonist but on the other hand if we really need to pick someone from the "cast" he is one of the finest candidate (the second one is Saya). PS. The forum back! I'm happy. Life was a little sad without dustloop. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Your question wasn't directed to me but personally I think that even if the story would have 200+ hours it wouldn't be boring Events from the arcade brought several different and interesting plots so it would be great if they explain and extend the majority of them. Except of story from Ragna perspective and his origin I would like to see some additions in the "Story Mode": Terumi origin + his possibly new vessel "The Girl" origin Nine transformation + her idea to create something from all Nox Nyctores (she is much more like hmm anti-hero?) Some stories which would be concentrate on the past (Sankishin origin, new idea about "will of the Azure") What did happen to Saya all this time and who she is? Naoto backstory's (for players who haven't read novels or haven't been able to) Naoto actions which he is going to do not only to save his own world but also in the conflict within Embryo (he is entitled as well) Es role except of being the "Scary gatekeeper" -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Saya might be a Prime Field Device: According to Rachel in Chronophantasma Saya's body is the crystalization of seithr Saya has an amazing potential to use Ars Magus (or even Ars Armagus) On the Chronophantasma Material Collection cover there is a black coffin on the backround. If you zoom it there is an interesting sign. However it's incomplete: "M***kumo ** 01 **ya". If the -01- was created as the first Murakumo (why Murakumo???) and it contacted with god, collect the data and obatin "Power of The Eye" (and became "Successor of the Azure") then an another Murakumo sign above "The Girl" head it's more confusing. I will back to it later. BlazBlue follows on statement that destroyed isn't the same as killed (According to Ragna when he was fighting with Nu-13 and Cauldrons: easy to destroy but without power of the Azure it's impossible to kill). 01 was destroyed (not killed) by the Zero-Type Izaoyi and next thrown to the Boundary. The most important factor -> Saya was used by Relius as a base for later Murakumo Units. I think it can be assumed that she is PFD for this point but without any number (and definitely she isn't a zeroth as well). I won't stick easily with "01" because: These informations aren't enough to point out does she is a real 01 or just a copy of 01 or other PFD or real PFD (that's why "might be" in the beginning). If she was the first Murakumo (Murakumos are Prime Field Devices as well) who did contact wtih god then what did happen to her "Power of The Eye"? Or she is just this "Alpha" Murakumo which process of smelting into Kusanagi was stopped by the Black Beast interruption so she remain in the Boundary. If her memories weren't shattered by the Boundary then who did seal them? If she is the real one then why she is a kid in the CT? Of course there is an idea that she traveled through the Boundary, loss her memories and was found in the future so she could be hibernated in this lab for some time (the same Ragna and Jin before Jubei released them. It was never stated (I think) how the scientiest were keeping siblings) Why Ragna is the oldest? Even if he might be some mixed organism between PFD, human + possesses Azure Grimoire and who knows what else then it would be strange that he is artificially the oldest one (However it's possible cause Relius created Hazama as an adult). In flashbacks she was presented as a kid and adolescent not the baby nor toddler I would add that Terumi attacked the church when the siblings were adolescents. "The Origin" is the first being who contacted with Master Unit then linked with it and became a wielder. Prime Field Device or not definitely couldn't be a human because they can't survive in the Boundary + the Azure power would destroy human body and mind. Like I said before -01- contacted with Amaterasu too, obtain "The Power of the Eye" but as you see it isn't necessary to replace "The Origin" and become a new god even if you are the "Eye of the Azure". Still shi**y sign in the core of Master Unit is intriguing me -> if Noel is "The Origin" it could be counted as Mu-12 but it's farfetched. Another disorted of time? Even in the Original Timeline? Body of "The Origin" seems to be destroyed too so... meh I will forfeit other speculation this time. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I guess that Yoshirocks92 was thinking about Noel but just used "Mu" name. I am the one who is questioning Noel's surviving in different timelines and whining abut this as well However this idea would make "things" much more understandable -> I mean if Noel had survived only in the one timeline her role as "the chosen one"/privileged character would be easier to realize. Especially "The Origin" part cause it seems that relation between Noel-Amaterasu is similiar to Jin-Hakumen. Stories presented both in the Arcade and Story Mode in the CT are very interesting and they give some hints but I have never counted them. However thanks for explanation because I forgot about Remix Heart Gaiden part (I suppose this is the one of episode in the CP): I have been slowly refreshing the story recently cause I definitely was more focused on gameplay and online battles. I had the "Bloodedge Experience" on my mind. Of course the BE story is set before the time loop but it seems that past events for several characters from BE had a different course of action in the BB universe. I am not going to think if there is a possiblity to make some mess in the BE world future (It depends how the CF will end + Relius existence) because it's just too wild speculation. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I had similiar thoughts but on a different matter: - If she wants destroy the entire universe and/or bring "everything" into nothingness then it would be better to find a way to destroy the Azure itself instead of Master Unit. Especially that Master Unit "isn't working" now. I suppose that it might be impossible cause even the most nihilistic villains (more of them were seeking the power) in this game's universe didn't give any clue/hint/whatever about solution like this. However like H@x0r said Izanami was born from negatives emotions which "The Girl" possesses as well. Lambda - 11 Mu - 12 Nu - 13 Noel Izanami (Saya) The last one is specific because she has "a role" as playable Saya too. I mean that more or less fans wanted her and "Noel is just Noel" (even if she was replacing Saya in some way) so players have an occasion to play with the last member of this sibling (+ she seems to be a little OP what is making this role completed). Many people speaking about it but I am not sure and I haven't ever been how these timelines are canonical and where is the source about it (Did I forget something from games?). I mean where she survived except of several Calamity Trigger alternate endings (because I am counting both CT game and CT MC only in this term) which are focused on idea "What if?" and bring several clues but not the possibly scenario of other timelines. For example: I know the BlazBlue mainly follows the theory that every choice creates alternate universe but probably in none of them Mu survived. However all these resets, choices etc. were necessary because with each loop the disortion became bigger and finally reached an enough point to made a possibility for Noel's birth (RIP English). Oh and it's easy to confuse with conceptions like loop, timeline, alternate, multiverse, time paradox, omnipotent etc. There are some popular stories in which even creators confused themselves or provided baseless/hilarious explanations at the end of plot so I dropped this "time travel term" a long time ago. BB Universe's story it's the only one which I can tolerate time travels because the rest is enjoyable: heroes, size and complexity of world and several other factors. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
All because actually the "poster" about he(?) was mentioning it's a some dude who is "regarding" Sourenga for his work (he wrote about this in all video descriptions). I guess that he isn't an active user on the forum cause he hasn't uploaded any other video since Sourenga hidden them (and so the reason why he did it). -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
She let herself to be stabbed on purpose but effect it's the same like you said -> in goal to trigger Phenomena Intervention + show some "news" to Ragna. Except of Izanami who is immortal thanks to her several traits it looks like that nobody can die within the Embryo as long as the source of disortion lives (Noel). After all it doesn't change the fact that Izanami is technically Saya too I mean Ragna was calling her "Saya" until his Act 3 ending (in dialogue with Amane he has finally started to refer this being as Izanami not Saya), the Saya's soul seems to be within this body cause Izanami feels her reactions toward Ragna (so probably Relius haven't extracted Saya's soul what is interesting. I excluded Naoto's case) and finally the body (without Relius' customization I bet she would looks like Noel). However it's understandable for me that Mori probably forfeited potentially Ragna's inner-conflict plot (battle with little sister) due to personality development in previous games: Ragna has learnt how to keep his emotions (to some point of course) for major general goal and he tries to avoid "killing" as much as possbile. Speaking of "sisters" I am also interested in how much influence Saya's memories have on their personalities. It's really hard to point what Saya is like. I won't stick with an easy conclusion that Noel = Saya in the concept of personality. I am expecting a plot twist in Saya's case. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I have rewatched recenlty his Acts and he said that at least „he can gives people choices” + his other actions so yeah he is interfering too. Ok but the result would be the same if Noel didn't „cut off" Mu??? Probably „The Origin” would use Noel as the vessel even if she possess „the godslayer power”. Mainly reason of this „disconnection” was shown in Noel's Act 3 ending (she wants protect „that person”) but we can't be really sure that her way of thinking is right especially after Rachel's words that Noel should rethink again about this rejection (Rachel seems to be „buddy” with Amaterasu so probably she knows who „The Origin” was from the beginning and I assume that she is still keeping some secrets). However in my opinion their „split” was possible due to Noel acknowledged Mu in the CP: specifically at herself but I think this „detail” isn't so important cause the effect was the same: she provided Mu existence to the World thanks to her „Power of the Eye..”. Mu wtihout this previous act won't be able to personified in the CF. I would also point that Amaterasu doesn't have a „monopoly” to make Phenomena Intervention. Another thing is that Mu-12 probably never survived the attack of Take-Mikazuchi on Ibukido: mainly cause Hakumen said that he didn't remember a person named „Noel Vermillion” from his timeline when he was a Jin (Tsubaki take a role as his assistant + died by Nu-13 hand). I have been excluding the timeline where Ragna became a „Bloodedge” (Our Ragna was sent back in the CP to fill the gap and stable „Bloodedge” existence + by the way to gain more knowledge about „everything”) because it was never said if Noel even survived Ibukido's incident or how long Noel was living there. I mean to which point. If Amaterasu didn't take Mu as her vessel (I remember that we were discussing about it several pages before) at the beginning or at the end of CT then she or the Azure itself DID something to protect Mu so Noel could birth (Btw. Before Mu was smelted again in the CS she subconsciously existed → she had a control when Noel met Nu-13 first time in the CT). I highly doubt the timeloop ended by an accident. All vessels which were brought in this universe used to have the same trait → they are nearly pefected in look (and only in the look because personality can be different) to the original body which the owner of soul had so I assume that „The Origin” could possess Saya as well. On the other hand which beings we can acknowledge as gods or godlike: only Amaterasu and Izanami? I would add two other Sankishin too. Their wielders however are thing to debate: it's another speculation but I think that Hakumen's soul won't go straight to the Azure if he dies. He might be take a soul/wraith form and I won't be really surprised if he would be able to take a Jin as his vessel. However Terumi case isn't obvious: he mostly survives thanks to his abilities and several other factors but his potentially „godlike” status might be one of them. Of course we need to see if „Realm of gods” contains more of them or just it's only a sphere where Master Unit resides. Hope they will bring a reliable explanation how Noel became "The Origin" (It was easier to point something when "OPFD" was debating here but if she is the first who contacted with Master Unit things have changed again). It's strange for me that Ragna doesn't hesitate to harm his sister body (it seems like this). Even Naoto looks much more against it I understand that he doesn't concern about fighting with Jin (who would care about hellish brother like Jin even if he softened a little in the CP?) but with Saya? His angry might be understable because except of souls, the Azure, Black Beast, maybe Original Units and some Azure-related artifacts (it's a general statement cause probably I forgot about something) the rest of things in this world probably are "mass of seithr". Quite pesimistic world's construction. "Particular program" eh? Nice "Matrix". Looking at story told by Rachel in the CP and the other one by Clavis in Phase Shit 2 novel I won't be surprised about possibility that the "World of lies" exists way before the timeloop. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I was thinking about idea that the effects are blanking the image but I am not really sure. I had been editing both images with light, shadow, contrast, sharpness and colors before I posted them but nothing changed. The only visible thing it's Amaterasu's emblem: a very, very small piece above "The Origin". However I might have interpreted these scenes just too much enthusiastically Speaking of Amane I am interested in if his actions won't be acknowledged as intervention too in the future. Of course he isn't doing anything personally (like Rachel did when she used Tsukuyomi Unit to protect Kagutsuchi) but still guiding some of our heroes. I am also interested if Saya will get improtant role or remain limited as Izanami's vessel. Oh and the "goddess of death" was shown as mighty and confident being who might know much more than Rachel and Terumi but her Act 3's ending brought that she isn't really sure about her role and persona. She needed Relius for encourage -> I used to think that she manipulates all characters (both villains and heroes) but she may be vulnerable to manipulation too. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
I will put two images now cause there is one detail: Where is the "Murakumo Unit" sign? Why it has disappeared? In all previous endings where "The Origin" was shown it was but in Mu-12 things changed. It may looks like overinterpretation but did they exclude the possibly PFD unit? However the body of this "crucified girl" shown to be... shattered. The scar on left hand was able to see in previous endings but in the Mu-12 the rest of her flesh under the belt even it's blank it seems to be... cut off. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
Write to Sourenga --------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1) So.... I guess that we can throw away Terumi's explanation from Continuum Shift (I excluded also Noel Arcade ending where Amaterasu was speaking too). "See, when it grew a soul, this prime field also developed the power of the Eye." + your revelations -> now it seems if someone "something" is able to touch the Azure in the Boundary can become an "Eye" but needn't to link with Master Unit. However... What with 1st Prime Field Device now? It wasn't destroyed by Sealed Weapon Izayoi before it was thrown to the Boundary? SPECULATIONS: Did it replace "The Origin" in the Timeloop Timeline so Noel could live again or it's floating somewhere in the Boundary? The "crucified girl" it's still here so now I am not sure for who this body it's belong. 2) + Multiverse but the thing is that I am definitely sure that isn't her future self cause all this struggle through all the games made by our heroes (especially efforts for break the loop of time) would be pointless and gives an idea that there was a parallel world where Ragna & Co was living and and had a timeline where the history was going forward. I wouldn't also add Noel from Timeloop cause to this point how story is far we didn't get any hints that she has something similiar to Hakumen-Jin relation (Or it will hapen now that she will replace herself and the new games are going to focus on goal to break another loop in the BB world cause this world it's beginning for others and in this world a girl becomes a "god" Hilarious I know). Speaking of time travel the Boundary hasn't past/present/future terms and Azure contains souls from different timelines so if Noel is "The Origin" (the very first being who contacted with Master Unit) she could observes worlds even from the past which we know. From my point of view this is the only certain thing. The rest off it's really hard to find if we want to avoid speculations. However I have still a question which I wrote several times -> How the entire worlds were functioning if Master Unit didn't have any wielder before??? Did something happen to the BB or other world in the Age of Origin which changed everything and was influenced on other worlds too (Now BB world it's the beginning)??? How Azure could have any soul if the worlds were a mass of seithr??? The most important factor is if the Sankishin Units were made by humanity (small hints they are man made) or Azure itself or something different. PS. I am sticking with the "worlds" cause I believe that "The Boundary" and Sanishkin Units are unique both for XBlaze, BE and potentially other parallel worlds. I would say that it's empty = doesn't have a soul but the body itself (crucified girl) it's still connected. -
Central Fiction Arcade Plot Discussion (spoilers)
Kenji Harima replied to Chaoschao222's topic in Zepp Museum
HIs son Carl has blue if I am correct so our "Master of Puppets" might has the same color but isn't so important trait. Like I said before in previous posts I don't like idea that Relius could be a father to blonde's siblings or creator of them (however is it possible) -> His role in the story it's enough "huge" thanks to his unique ability to manipulate souls (Kokone is still "in-training" in this term and Nine skills aren't so advanced) and this possible revelation would make him much more important character. One thing which is concern me why he never gets an idea to build a perfect body for himself? I think that he is able to find a way to transfer his own soul -> this solution would give him an "eternity" to create a "perfect doll". Oh and this maybe isn't so amazing discovery but I will bring one screen for reminder -> Relius probably has a mechanical arm: I am wondering why Noel is still wearing these small devices on her hair. I doubt if her power as the "Eye" would be "harmful" at conditions of the Embryo. Of course it's small detail but they are very consistent in keep it in the most Arc stories. PS. Need to wait a long half year for console revelation and another half for english version both in the NA and EU :O