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Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
Posted some important info on Twitter. Basically, if you're doing a blockstring like 2A 2B 2C and your 2A or 2B gets shielded, you've already input 2B or 2C BUT you can override that input with D/specials/supers/assists, e.g. you can shield them back on reaction to being shielded. There are input priorities for what you cancel into after you get shielded: it's not necessarily the first thing that you input! I posted all this info in a chain of tweets starting here: https://twitter.com/Bill307_ca/status/678971882142629888 Tangentially, when you try to jump-cancel an attack after it's shielded, the input priority and the start-up of your jump depend on whether your attack is normally jump-cancellable. E.g. a 6f move will hit you out of the air if your attack is normally jc-able, but it will hit you grounded otherwise. -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
From what I've seen, they're definitely not bad! They're definitely not the only good assists for the character, either. If you're uncertain who to pick, I think the recommendations will be very useful. As you get more exp. with the character, you may then decide another assist fills a role / enables a combo / etc. that you want over the recommended ones. -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
That is one quick snipe. I probably did take too long aiming. Have you tried crouching under the beam and then rolling only when the crosshairs are about to shoot you? I did some tests and you can roll out of crouch without standing up: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4sPF_45c6E With more tests, I realized shielding is a very bad option, and not just because you can (apparently) be sniped before you can roll. If they're standing and blocking/shielding Dragon, thanks to the slowdown, it's actually quite easy to react to whatever they do and shoot them after. At least rolling out of crouch forces them to guess when you're going to roll. As for characters who can't crouch under Dragon, they might have to resort to one of the other options you listed. Ouka has an option that may always work, at the cost of 2 meters: she can avoid ground teching, wake-up roll, and C+E after the roll ends to escape. If you try to delay your setup to prevent this, she can probably escape with level 3 or just by super-jumping and rolling (I didn't bother to test the delayed setup). -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
Why don't you just shield and roll before you get shot? Like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZXDzf4K9Rc It's not a 100% guaranteed escape -- he could bait the roll and shoot you after (assuming you can't roll again immediately, even though you can block) -- but it's definitely a viable option. Edit: on a different topic, here's the origin of Ouka: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kACAGtNxo-4 Gothic Lolita Fighting Sequence -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
Just so people know, you can escape this setup -- and most Ein level 3 setups like this -- by shielding the laser beam (if necessary) and then rolling when Ein tries to snipe you. The snipe is a projectile so it can't hit you while you're rolling. Note that you cannot shield Ein's level 3: you must roll it! Both ground and air rolls (5D/JD) are completely projectile invincible until you can block again. You can test this by shielding during a long assist and rolling: you'll be able to block again even in the middle of the bugs / lasers. An exception to this is the zombies: they're not projectiles so they'll hit you out of your roll. I did some testing just now and Ein may in fact have a legit level 3 setup with the zombies. If you get stuck in the zombies, you can't just shield because her level 3 will hit you even while you're shielding zombies, and you can't roll because you'll get hit and her level 3 can hit you while the zombies are trampling you. Your escape options are basically: a) Shield, then use a move (e.g. your own C+E or level 3?) with enough invincibility to escape. b) Intentionally roll into the zombies, get hit, and hope that Ein misses her shot. Best thing to do is to avoid getting stuck on the ground in the zombies at all costs. If you fall on them and shield, at least you can probably air roll safely. -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
Note: these damage #s are vs Ein. It seems that Al takes ~700 more damage from these combos than Ein, even though her hurtbox is slightly smaller. I'm working on a Google Doc for these combos: it'll have revised damage #s vs Al. -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
If you just use Angela by herself, she deals different damage each time. It is literally random damage. Some characters (Saya, iirc) even have combos into her that randomly drop if none of the first few random lasers hit the opponent. The random element is so big that the damage from Angela combos can vary by about +/- 500 dmg. Sometimes the same combo will deal 13k or 14k. -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
I noticed Ein's JP Wiki page doesn't have any high-damage combos with damage assists, so I made some up using the Dragon (giant laser) and Angela (mech lasers) assists. I haven't done much testing with her throw combos yet, so they're missing from this list. Note: Angela deals random damage. To guarantee it hits and to maximize damage, you want to use Angela only when the opponent is in, near, or flying towards the corner. -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
lol yes, everyone hammered this point in to me at last night's casuals. At least I checked whether Anri was really holding an Uzi before writing "Uzi Bullets" (she's not)! Spreadsheet updated. As for the image... eh. :P Last night we had an 8-hour stream of Nitroplus Blasterz, mostly featuring Sonico, Ouka, Saya, and Ein (also a bit of Al, Ethica, and Ruili). http://www.twitch.tv/bill307/v/29463324 Some highlights: http://www.twitch.tv/bill307/v/29463324?t=9m55s - We tried to lag the game as much as possible with assists and Ethica's level 3, lol. http://www.twitch.tv/bill307/v/29578026 - Bugged intro screen graphics. http://www.twitch.tv/bill307/v/29463324?t=8h37m37s - Sonico 10k damage combo (he shouldn't have had enough meter for the level 2 at the end). -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
I made a Nitroplus Blasterz Assists Cheat Sheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1PbFk4goS6-gteElFd-dplnsy6ERDiD-ZEJ32oseKnts/edit?usp=sharin Picture: https://twitter.com/Bill307_ca/status/675467635505635328 -
New Fighting Game Based On Shining Series
Bill307 replied to Malcopunch's topic in Misc Fighter Central
I made a Rouna combos and resets video: https://www.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EgeWwSEM4_o I played Rikir and asked him what he thinks of the Misty-Rouna matchup. He thinks it's 4-6 but I still think it's at least 3.5-6.5 or better for Rouna: I just keep dropping mixups 'cause of the input interpreter. :P Speaking of which, I found out you can actually input specials too fast. Based on the training mode input display, 26 does not give you 236 and 6314 does not give you 63214. -_- -
New Fighting Game Based On Shining Series
Bill307 replied to Malcopunch's topic in Misc Fighter Central
So it seems like Misty can't cross you up on oki if you fast stand. :P rip Misty. I discovered another threat from her, though: do NOT get hit air-to-air by her jB or you'll lose half your life, lol. -
New Fighting Game Based On Shining Series
Bill307 replied to Malcopunch's topic in Misc Fighter Central
Streaming Blade Arcus casuals again. New people are here this time. We'll have some Sonia, Urayukihime, Melty, Isaac, Rick, Rouna, maybe Misty and Ryuga, and maybe Fenrir/Sakuya if I feel like abusing top tiers! http://www.twitch.tv/bill307 -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
Perhaps there are certain companies that seem unable to avoid having a terrible characater ;), but if you look at AH3LM, there were top-tiers and bottom-tiers but even the worst characters could be threats: they weren't terrible. -
Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel
Bill307 replied to ivanchu77's topic in Misc Fighter Central
While I have yet to acquire the game (I'm finishing a Blade Arcus video first; disc is en route), I would be surprised if any character flat-out sucks: I expect them all to be fun and strong enough to compete vs anyone. Good to hear people's (mostly nadakai's ^^) impressions of the new characters fit this pattern.