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After bout a two frog reps, the opponents barrier, and/or guard is running low, u should have enough to super, i personally, throw a lobelia, and super them on block u set down another frog>5b>5b>pumpkin...if it hits or breaks there guard, u place a frog down, backdash>pumpkin>throw a lobelia. * if at any point the opponent gets hit by the frog u 3c reset frog 3c/5b again.blocked frog get pumpkin out * if the pumpkin ends up in a weird spot, work with it, your objective is to keep them blocking a pumpkin frog lobelia, while using one or two winds, and by setting up a frog u recharge one wind in the process. *5b>8jump>2wind>2b>5b>5cc+wind>frog>pumpkin lobelia. all things listed with with 5cc are meant for mix-ups that hit. *4b>5b>5cc+wind>frog>pumpkin> lobelia.