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*If your mix-ups are being blocked, and u are running low on wind or find yourself pushed to far back the pressure ends, most players will just dead angle out. which is fine, use your 50 heat, it makes rushing u again even more easy to do.without having to bait a super, while zoning or rushing. *against tager, after a mix-up in 5cc+wind knockdown> frog>pumpkin>dash and fork> he can sledge the lobelia, you and the frog> so u have to fork him when he gets up.You can fork lobelia or fork then fork again> frog has them blocking>pumpkin lobelia>