Toxin45 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 So what Ogiga what do you think of the act III preview
Yoshirocks92 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 7 minutes ago, Toxin45 said: So from this a lot of stuff is happening but why was Kagura protecting Noel from Jin?
Shadow_Aizen Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 I'm wondering who that was in 1:54. Looked like Izanami. But who knows.
Toxin45 Posted February 7, 2016 Posted February 7, 2016 Just now, Shadow_Aizen said: I'm wondering who that was in 1:54. Looked like Izanami. But who knows. Yes that was and also Yoshirocks dude it;s because of noel being the master unit thing.
Yoshirocks92 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Just now, Toxin45 said: Yes that was and also Yoshirocks dude it;s because of noel being the master unit thing. Yeah that I knew but now something's been bugging me ever since Noel has been revealed as the Master Unit and it's telling me that Noel's going to get a new form that's pretty much Amaterasu's fighting form which I'm thinking it could happen since I don't know if Noel and Mu-12 have a stage to themselves so far as I looked at the BlazBlue wiki so far but I could be wrong.
Ogiga99 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 20 minutes ago, Toxin45 said: So what Ogiga what do you think of the act III preview I'm not entirely sure what to think yet since (to my knowledge) we don't have a translation and I can't hear the dialogue so all I have to go off of is the images. Most of the images are just self-explanatory (Kagura protecting Noel or Nine having all the Noxs) or have too little context. That Izanami image is creepy as hell though. The image of Rachel at the ending bothers me the most. There doesn't seem to be any dialogue with it and I have no context but the bits of azure blowing away just gives me a very "something bad has happened vibe" like either that's Rachel disappearing or she's all that's left. I know that probably makes no sense but that's just what my initial impression was.
Shinhwa Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 I am guessing after Act III is over, rest of the story will all be revealed in Story Mode in the console version? :/
JustaMaskedFreak Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Shinhwa said: I am guessing after Act III is over, rest of the story will all be revealed in Story Mode in the console version? :/ I don't want to sound cruel or something like that, but I think it is pretty obvious that only Story mode will reveal the rest, plus I think they will make us have some more questions hanging in the air after the Act 3
Zedar90 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Translation of the dialog in Act 3 preview. I hope there are nothing wrong, since It can be a little difficult to read the text and there you couldn't hear the dialog. This is a purge towards the people from god. Don't get in the way... observer. A purge? Don't make me laugh. The thing you're doing is only a massacre. Even if this world returns to nothingness, that is the truth. ACT3 “The Replacement Blue” The possibilities that people is possessing is inviting the world into ruin. Who was it that excavated his armor? Who was it that tried to contact god? No matter which age, doesn't everything begins with miserable desires. I won't deny it. People was always foolish. … but even so, I believe. That the possibilities that people possesses, which you are denying, will cut open the future. Is that your choice. Right. It's mine and also “theirs” choice. Even if the world for sure is getting closer to ruin... The people will find with the path they should take their own hands. … then you should also, wish that desire of yours to the azure. And then inside the true despair that arrives, and greet the time of demise... You human who was an observer before.
JustaMaskedFreak Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 2 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: Translation of the dialog in Act 3 preview. I hope there are nothing wrong, since It can be a little difficult to read the text and there you couldn't hear the dialog. This is a purge towards the people from god. Don't get in the way... observer. A purge? Don't make me laugh. The thing you're doing is only a massacre. Even if this world returns to nothingness, that is the truth. ACT3 “The Replacement Blue” The possibilities that people is possessing is inviting the world into ruin. Who was it that excavated his armor? Who was it that tried to contact god? No matter which age, doesn't everything begins with miserable desires. I won't deny it. People was always foolish. … but even so, I believe. That the possibilities that people possesses, which you are denying, will cut open the future. Is that your choice. Right. It's mine and also “theirs” choice. Even if the world for sure is getting closer to ruin... The people will find with the path they should take their own hands. … then you should also, wish that desire of yours to the azure. And then inside the true despair that arrives, and greet the time of demise... You human who was an observer before. This observer, this could mean Amane all the time? But if that is true, it can explain about Valk almost crushing his throat and yet, it will make us ask why he is doing such a thing...
Yoshirocks92 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 3 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: Translation of the dialog in Act 3 preview. I hope there are nothing wrong, since It can be a little difficult to read the text and there you couldn't hear the dialog. This is a purge towards the people from god. Don't get in the way... observer. A purge? Don't make me laugh. The thing you're doing is only a massacre. Even if this world returns to nothingness, that is the truth. ACT3 “The Replacement Blue” The possibilities that people is possessing is inviting the world into ruin. Who was it that excavated his armor? Who was it that tried to contact god? No matter which age, doesn't everything begins with miserable desires. I won't deny it. People was always foolish. … but even so, I believe. That the possibilities that people possesses, which you are denying, will cut open the future. Is that your choice. Right. It's mine and also “theirs” choice. Even if the world for sure is getting closer to ruin... The people will find with the path they should take their own hands. … then you should also, wish that desire of yours to the azure. And then inside the true despair that arrives, and greet the time of demise... You human who was an observer before. That's a pretty good translation also do you think you can get the translation for Noel's Act II Arcade run?
Zedar90 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Just now, JustaMaskedFreak said: This observer, this could mean Amane all the time? But if that is true, it can explain about Valk almost crushing his throat and yet, it will make us ask why he is doing such a thing... I might be mistaking, but it looks like it's dialog between Izanami and Rachel. The way of speech looks to be Rachel, and she is the last person you see in the preview.
JustaMaskedFreak Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 However, if your translation is right, the end of the preview could not be talking about Rachel, since it talks about a human. Rachel is a vampire as far as I can recall. And the only other Human that we know it is an Observer is Amane. Unless Litchi finally became an Observer and I think Kokonoe isn't considered a Human. Also, I remember that Amane was an observer and turned out to not become anymore, during Act I, it matches the end of the preview
Ogiga99 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 16 minutes ago, Zedar90 said: I might be mistaking, but it looks like it's dialog between Izanami and Rachel. The way of speech looks to be Rachel, and she is the last person you see in the preview. That's how I saw it too. Especially since the end has the creepy Izanami picture flash and then shows Rachel alone. Going based on this I figured it might be cool to try and break it up into who is saying each part for context. This is just a guess. I: This is a purge towards the people from god. Don't get in the way... observer. R: A purge? Don't make me laugh. The thing you're doing is only a massacre. Even if this world returns to nothingness, that is the truth. ACT3 “The Replacement Blue” I: The possibilities that people is possessing is inviting the world into ruin. Who was it that excavated his armor? Who was it that tried to contact god? No matter which age, doesn't everything begins with miserable desires. R: I won't deny it. People was always foolish. … but even so, I believe. That the possibilities that people possesses, which you are denying, will cut open the future. I: Is that your choice. R: Right. It's mine and also “theirs” choice. Even if the world for sure is getting closer to ruin... The people will find with the path they should take their own hands. I: … then you should also, wish that desire of yours to the azure. And then inside the true despair that arrives, and greet the time of demise... You human who was an observer before. If these are the right people then that line about Rachel says that she is a human who was once an Observer. Is she human now what the hell!
JustaMaskedFreak Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 8 minutes ago, Ogiga99 said: That's how I saw it too. Especially since the end has the creepy Izanami picture flash and then shows Rachel alone. Going based on this I figured it might be cool to try and break it up into who is saying each part for context. This is just a guess. I: This is a purge towards the people from god. Don't get in the way... observer. R: A purge? Don't make me laugh. The thing you're doing is only a massacre. Even if this world returns to nothingness, that is the truth. ACT3 “The Replacement Blue” I: The possibilities that people is possessing is inviting the world into ruin. Who was it that excavated his armor? Who was it that tried to contact god? No matter which age, doesn't everything begins with miserable desires. R: I won't deny it. People was always foolish. … but even so, I believe. That the possibilities that people possesses, which you are denying, will cut open the future. I: Is that your choice. R: Right. It's mine and also “theirs” choice. Even if the world for sure is getting closer to ruin... The people will find with the path they should take their own hands. I: … then you should also, wish that desire of yours to the azure. And then inside the true despair that arrives, and greet the time of demise... You human who was an observer before. If these are the right people then that line about Rachel says that she is a human who was once an Observer. Is she human now what the hell! Zedar couldn't hear the dialogue, so we can't be certain about this yet, and I can't buy that it is Rachel who is talking it. I still placing my bets in Amane.
Zedar90 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 1 minute ago, JustaMaskedFreak said: Zedar couldn't hear the dialogue, so we can't be certain about this yet, and I can't buy that it is Rachel who is talking it. I still placing my bets in Amane. I have a hard time thinking Amane talking that femininely. He might look like one for some, but his speech is very Masculine. Also, Amane is using Ore, while the one speaking is using Wata(ku)shi. It's something that is hard to show in translated text.
JustaMaskedFreak Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Oh, I get it, don't worry explaining then. Sometimes I really imagine Amane talking a little femininely, but after reading again, I have to agree with you. Now I guess it is time to shed some lights from the preview and the dialogue itself, even with it doesn't giving many hints and, somehow, telling things that we may already know...
Shadow_Aizen Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 We'll all just have to wait and see if/when Arcs will upload CF trailer for Act 3. So that person was Izanami after all. And I doubt this is possible, but I REALLY hope Team Blue makes the game & Story have enough space so an Extend version won't be necessary. And I do the story truly explains EVERYTHING. And by everything, I mean everything from Xblaze, Bloodedge Experience, and CT-CF. Everything that was left out.
JustaMaskedFreak Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 7 hours ago, Shadow_Aizen said: We'll all just have to wait and see if/when Arcs will upload CF trailer for Act 3. So that person was Izanami after all. And I doubt this is possible, but I REALLY hope Team Blue makes the game & Story have enough space so an Extend version won't be necessary. And I do the story truly explains EVERYTHING. And by everything, I mean everything from Xblaze, Bloodedge Experience, and CT-CF. Everything that was left out. If they don't explian why Naoto came to Centralfiction and, maybe, his story, it will have Extend, remember Kagura Kokonoe and Bullet own stories that were released only in Extend, plus they always add more things, can be modes or characters, not only story.
Luminos564 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 Geez that is a creepy preview, especially at the end with a brief Izanami-like image flash. Girl is taking lessons from the Ring I see. So based on that dialogue it seems like all the people who have a strong wish are causing Amaterasu to overload in a sense and she no longer seems capable of maintaining the world she built. Either that or do many conflicting interests are piling up that the world does not know where to go next. Least, that's the impression I am getting.
-Seo Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 The dialogue is between Rachel and Izanami yeah. On the last scene with just Rachel, she's saying something else, but with no subtitles and because of background noise, I couldn't make any of it out ;;
Ogiga99 Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 10 hours ago, Shadow_Aizen said: We'll all just have to wait and see if/when Arcs will upload CF trailer for Act 3. So that person was Izanami after all. And I doubt this is possible, but I REALLY hope Team Blue makes the game & Story have enough space so an Extend version won't be necessary. And I do the story truly explains EVERYTHING. And by everything, I mean everything from Xblaze, Bloodedge Experience, and CT-CF. Everything that was left out. Unless the game comes is a 10 disc set I think it's physically impossible to explain absolutely everything, but hopefully they'll do a good enough job tying up all the loose ends. An Extend seems inevitable at this point and will probably add a lot of background story things like with CP. Then again we have no idea if they will return to the CT-CS individual character story modes since each character has so much going on with their own memory loss and wishes etc. or continue with the CP combined story mode (I'm not sure we need a story mode for each character since we're already going to have 90 Arcade stories to go through) so this game is going to be ungodly massive either way. 2 hours ago, -Seo said: The dialogue is between Rachel and Izanami yeah. On the last scene with just Rachel, she's saying something else, but with no subtitles and because of background noise, I couldn't make any of it out ;; I found it odd that they had such a long pause on that image with seemingly no dialogue so I hope you're right. Still kinda annoying that they felt the need to not subtitle it, which does nothing except screw over people who can't hear the scene (like us).
Shadow_Aizen Posted February 8, 2016 Posted February 8, 2016 5 hours ago, JustaMaskedFreak said: If they don't explian why Naoto came to Centralfiction and, maybe, his story, it will have Extend, remember Kagura Kokonoe and Bullet own stories that were released only in Extend, plus they always add more things, can be modes or characters, not only story. Well that's why I'm hoping not. But only time will tell.
Luminos564 Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 So, humor me a bit: what exactly could this whole "truth" or "inevitability" that both Izanami and Nine keep banging on about be? I mean alright, it's supposed to make the idea of defeating Izanami a "triviality" and all that. But just what is it? Judging by how Izanami speaks of whatever it is that is to follow, it seems like it isn't exactly something corporeal like an "enemy" of sorts, but rather a "concept" or perhaps a "fundamental law". Of course, what exactly they are is probably not going to be answered until at least Act 3's conclusion.
Ogiga99 Posted February 9, 2016 Posted February 9, 2016 16 minutes ago, Luminos564 said: So, humor me a bit: what exactly could this whole "truth" or "inevitability" that both Izanami and Nine keep banging on about be? I mean alright, it's supposed to make the idea of defeating Izanami a "triviality" and all that. But just what is it? Judging by how Izanami speaks of whatever it is that is to follow, it seems like it isn't exactly something corporeal like an "enemy" of sorts, but rather a "concept" or perhaps a "fundamental law". Of course, what exactly they are is probably not going to be answered until at least Act 3's conclusion. I'm pretty sure this is the Central Fiction (Nine calls it the unchangeable truth of the world in the first trailer). The way I see it is that no matter what world is created by the Embryo, whether it be the current world created by Amaterasu, a new one created by an Entitled or (my personal belief) the world that came before the current one, at the very core of the world is the idea that everything and everyone is inevitably screwed. Any world will ultimately lead to ruin like what is happening now; with the creator being killed and the best one can hope for is someone halfway decent to create a world they desire and repeat the cycle again. In the Act III trailer the person who is most likely Izanami says "The possibilities that people is possessing is inviting the world into ruin. Who was it that excavated his armor? Who was it that tried to contact god? No matter which age, doesn't everything begins with miserable desires". There is no happy ending because people keep taking the steps that lead to the temptation of the Boundary, the release of the Black Beast and ultimately the creation of a new Embryo. Basically as long as people continue to have free will and do stupid things as people are wont to do, everything is doomed. This would explain why all of the worlds the villains wanted to create (Terumi's world of despair where everyone kills each other for his amusement, Relius's world of perfect dolls, Izanami's world of death and Nine's world only for Celica) have no way for people to repeat the process by eliminating free will from the equation. At least, that's my theory, hopefully this makes sense.
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