Tacky Takeru Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 Console version needs to have "teach me pozer-senpai"
FlameIce Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) Pozer I guess the reason I'm so defensive is whenever I get aggressive I get blown up. My game plan is if you believe I have one is to try and force a mistake...somehow. I figure Jin high low game is weak on the ground so I figure I can just block and tech the grabs. When I looked at my footage the only times I have been able to "win" a round is by pretty much blocking as much as possible and looking for an opening. I'm not sure how someone can rush down safely honestly. I see Jeff doing 2A dash 2A 2A dash. 2A 6A 6B . I tested those out in training mode and it seems you can just 2A youself out of that. Yesterday I tried to do an strategy I came up where Makoto will parry after doing a block string. I cant seem to put my self into a situation where I can even do that. Maybe my footsies are too trash? I can't seem to counter Jin's j.b reliably either. Most of time I can't react fast enough to do it properly. Maybe I'm analyzing my footage the wrong way as well. Pozer or anybody if could look at this footage and let me know if I'm analyzing it right and if the counters I'm coming up with are the proper way to do about things. If I'm not analyzing my footage right how should I go about analyzing it the right way? My analysis of the first round is below. To do the second one as well would take up too much text. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koxCwJ-yOZs Analysis: At match start I 2B in anticipation that you will do 2B. You don't however. You IAD backwards because you are probably expecting me to do 6C which I tend to do alot at match start. Next I jump backwards because I believe you are going to run up and do a 5C. I want these normals to wiff. You don't however. You IAD j.b. Why you IAD j.b I don't know why. It seems risky? You jump in the air and I wiff a j.b trying to hit you. I did it at a bad spacing. I needed to be closer. You then do a j.c at the right spacing and hit me with the proper combo. I block with barrier to try and push you out and escape pressure. I works and you are eventally pushed out. I see you running forward and decide to use 5B. Seems like its at the proper distance for it to hit. It hits but i do the inproper combo. I'm not used to it hitting at the tip. This causes me to wiff a 5C. Which you then punish. I continue to block to try an push you out. It works. You dash in. At this distance I decide 2A is the best normal to use. You do a DP however and combo from there. I crack at this point. I DP to try and to try and get out of the corner. You then punish with 5C but stop because you want to punish the bust. From my previous match footage I noticed that I tend to burst after a blocked DP if I don't have meter. I decide not to bust though and wait a little bit to see. You attempt a tick grab. Which I sucussfully guess at. You back up and Jump in the air and I try to anti air with 6A. You bait it with a double jump though and I get hit with 6B. You then wiff a 2A. At the time it seemed like a good idea to do a 5B cause you wiffed something, but i didnt reconize I was in hit stun still from j.b. So I got baited into doing something. Get a combo for my trouble. I burst. You throw a series of fireballs and I stupidly get hit with one. The fireball causes me to fall and I tech. The tech cause me to 3rd fireball to wiff, and I run forward. You then run towards me. I jump to try and make you wiff something, but all you wiffed was a 2A. I can't punish that, so as I come down I decide to block. You IAD j.b and it wiffs you run towards me and I decide to do a 2A which was done at the wrong distance. I get counter hit and get killed. The Mistakes: You jump in the air and I wiff a j.b trying to hit you. I did it at a bad spacing. At this distance the best option would be to block. I see you running forward and decide to use 5B. Seems like its at the proper distance for it to hit. It hits but i do the in proper combo. I'm not used to it hitting at the tip. 1. Figure out a combo off 5B hitting at the tip. Not sure if its practical to hit confirm this though. 2. Since your in hit stun from 5B I probably could have advanced forward and applied pressure. I got to be careful of the DP though. 3. Wait for you to do something and apply the proper counter. Ultimately I would choose option 2 and see what happens. I crack at this point. I DP to try and to try and get out of the corner. Disciple my self to keep blocking. The best thing to do would be to probably white block and DP. The meter gain from the white blocks would probably allow me to DP safely. You back up and Jump in the air and I try to anti air with 6A. You bait it with a double jump though and I get hit with 6B. Properly timed backdash. The invincibly of the backdash should keep me safe if he decides to do j.b right away. If not I should be at a good distance to properly 6A. If I wait to 6A till he is close I will probably get counter hit. You then wiff a 2A. At the time it seemed like a good idea to do a 5B cause you wiffed something, but I didnt reconize I was in hit stun still from j.b. So I got baited into doing something. Get a combo for my trouble. Keep blocking. You throw a series of fireballs and I stupidly get hit with one. Jump at the right time. You IAD j.b and it wiffs you run towards me and I decide to do a 2A which was done at the wrong distance. Keep blocking. Edit: @Pozer I'll definitely be taking your advice. Thanks for taking to time to create that write up. Edited July 24, 2011 by FlameIce
Yuushiro Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 Pozer can you tell me what I am doing wrong? can I tell you what's wrong?
Yuushiro Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 No. I am talkin to furix, and not to be rude but you haven't even beat me even once too.
FlameIce Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 I am talkin to furix, and not to be rude but you haven't even beat me even once too. That will change pretty soon. I can guarantee that.
SL021 Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) lmao @ me getting up halfway through a game thinking it was over. Anywayz GGs to the usual Yuushiro, Pozer and Hsien. And that Rachel player whose name still remains unknown Josh. Tonight was not successful as I didn't win as much as I did last week. Maybe I should let off the netplay lool. Edited July 24, 2011 by SL021
CrimsonDisaster Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 looks like imma have to step in here and lay down DA TROOF as to why u suck and how u can improve marCELL - it's like u don't adapt, kinda like CELL who was like "imma steel ur powerz and trix by downloading u" but downlodin aint learnin?? More like PIRATING n dats illegal bro-san. Also it's like u don't adapt 'cuz like, there are plenty of other good and probably way better cars in every way that fit ur needs better but u are like NISSAN, u gotta get wit da timez and acept bettre carz in dis world, like maybe the Ford F-150 SLOW21 - it's like u r SLOW bcuz Tager is a big fat man, mebbe if u play a fast dude or dudetee u can win more?? also it's like u get throwed all da time, this is because u play a thrower dude and trowing is CHEEP and if u throw then we get 2 throwback DUH also i dun beleeve ur 21 so u better show id if u wanna partay wif da BIG BOYZ San Antonio Jin - it's like u suck bcuz u r from San Antonio, u shud maybe consider not doing dat?? I mean u r so busy remembering da Alamo which is to say u just remember that one time u got BEAT. DATZ A LOSING CULTURE DAT BE PPOISONING UR MIND AND STUFF DAWG, u gotta play like a CHAMP to be a CHAMP, i suggest you model urself after Lebron James FlameIce - it's like u suck because you try to be flame and u try to be ice but u just melt and u r a puddle. Like u r trying to block and it's like IMMA BE. ICE. COLD. but then u are also like FLAME ON so then u start mashing and then u get hit 'cuz like your defense melted from u trying to do stuff even tho u dont understand. Or like u start doing a pressure cambo and u r like TIME TO MAKE IT HOT but u also wanna b COOL so like ur pressure melts from sucking and u lose. mebbe don't try to be Flame AND Ice @ da same time, is ok to only be HAWT or KEWL FurryX - DIS IS OBVIOUS Y U SUCK DAWG, GET IT I SAID DOG 'CUZ U A FURRY it's ok tho once u embrace ur inner self u can win, and by dat I meen u shud play Makoto PozerWOLF - DIS IS SO EZ OBVIOUSLY Y U SUCK IS BECAUSE U don't have the Horo Wall, you don't have the true source of your powers. THE PONIES CANNOT REPLACE HORO, REMEMBER UR DESTINY jEFFFFFFF - u r pretty gud mang but its 2 bad u gotta play suck low tier duderettes like Matoko I think u shud tear hoar n play Jin, he seems pretty ez 2 win wiff
furix Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 Thanks for the tips bro o/ I'll try my best to improve!
Yuushiro Posted July 24, 2011 Posted July 24, 2011 Thanks for the tips bro o/ I'll try my best to improve! I see it now...., Jeff is the one you're cheating with.... my heart is broken.
PozerWolf Posted July 24, 2011 Author Posted July 24, 2011 (edited) Analysis: You're no doubt over analyzing the match. This is what I was thinking during that match: I'm going to throw out whatever, he's going to eat. I don't care if he hits me, what's the worse he's going to do. Because your offensive game and defensive game is lacking heavily, I can literately get away with doing anything. The start of round 2, opening with Ice Ride, that was fully intentional, however, I will only do that against you because I know for a fact, even if you block it there is nothing to worry about. If I put you into that much fear when playing me, then you shouldn't play me until you feel that you've leveled up in some way. Playing other people or playing xbox live is the best thing to do for now. Also, CrimsonDisaster, your Slayer keeps doing 6P and I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO!! I FORGET HOW TO PLAY!! ;_; LATE EDIT: lmao @ me getting up halfway through a game thinking it was over. Anywayz GGs to the usual Yuushiro, Pozer and Hsien. And that Rachel player whose name still remains unknown Josh. Tonight was not successful as I didn't win as much as I did last week. Maybe I should let off the netplay lool. Good games! Nothing wrong with net play when it comes to xbox live. Just make sure you get a good balance of both netplay and offline play to get yourself in tempo when playing offline. Playing Live will teach you how to deal with matches up, it works out in the end ;o Edited July 24, 2011 by PozerWolf
qwerty Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 i'm convinced arcsys created slayer to force people to learn how to ib
CrimsonDisaster Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 ANYBODY GOING TO UFO TONIGHT BECAUSE I AM BECAUSE I AM COOL jk who plays video games anyways
PozerWolf Posted July 25, 2011 Author Posted July 25, 2011 I'll make a trip to UFO tonight if more people are showing up. Ryan has yet to give me my tokens however, and I need them in order to play :/
PozerWolf Posted July 25, 2011 Author Posted July 25, 2011 (edited) You guys checked your pools yet? I got into Pool 7, not sure who's in it. Going in on Saturday, 12:00 pm. http://evo2k.com/checkin/ If only I was in pool 11, I heard there's no one good in that pool at all. So pool 11 is the lucky pool. Edited July 25, 2011 by PozerWolf
PozerWolf Posted July 25, 2011 Author Posted July 25, 2011 No one good at all. Nope, not a single person. Nope.
gli Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 I'm in Pool 7 lol :X No word of any other people though.
Yuushiro Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 list gathered by xie here: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?11011-Evolution-2011-at-the-Rio-Las-Vegas-NV-July-29-31.-Get-hype!/page19 I am pool 8 along with xie and kevin,
PozerWolf Posted July 25, 2011 Author Posted July 25, 2011 list gathered by xie here: http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?11011-Evolution-2011-at-the-Rio-Las-Vegas-NV-July-29-31.-Get-hype!/page19 I am pool 8 along with xie and kevin, Kevin? The best Blaz player in the world?!?!? Tag as the most dangerous player in all of... everything!! AND EVERYONE!!
ZONG_one Posted July 25, 2011 Posted July 25, 2011 -_______________________- I have to play my SBO quals partner from last year. I am not going to like this.
PozerWolf Posted July 25, 2011 Author Posted July 25, 2011 -_______________________- I have to play my SBO quals partner from last year. I am not going to like this. He'll never wait for you.
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