OrionXElite Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f60lIQUQZEk Can anyone explain the 720 at the end of the match? I noticed that Tager kept going 4BC->BSledge->5C->ASledge->4D Wouldn't it have been better to go for Gadget combos against Hakumen? I could understand doing that against someone with good reset options like Ragna, Litchi or another Tager but doing that to Hakumen puts him back at optimal 4C/j.C range so it would put Tager at a disadvantage right??
Darlos9D Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f60lIQUQZEk Can anyone explain the 720 at the end of the match?I was more concerned with the supreme lack of 2Cs. And the random pointless 720s, and the throws that Shadow was obviously going to jump out of LIKE HE KEPT DOING OVER AND OVER. I mean, Nekonin won, but he could have mixed it up a lot more by doing some things to counter the jump-outs once in a while.
A.X.I.S. Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 I was more concerned with the supreme lack of 2Cs. And the random pointless 720s, and the throws that Shadow was obviously going to jump out of LIKE HE KEPT DOING OVER AND OVER. I mean, Nekonin won, but he could have mixed it up a lot more by doing some things to counter the jump-outs once in a while. 2C's would have gotten him hit, IMO collider would have shut him up on wake up and gimmick's would have made that match up easier. match up looks boring but if haku is involved its a mindgame.
Mike Z Posted April 5, 2010 Posted April 5, 2010 2A3698741236(hold 6 for a split second)CClose. 2A buffer a 360 to 6, hold 6 to walk, 2nd 360+C. So for example, 2A buffer 62486, walk, 248C. Like 3s Hugo.
ShinsoBEAM Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 I was more concerned with the supreme lack of 2Cs. And the random pointless 720s, and the throws that Shadow was obviously going to jump out of LIKE HE KEPT DOING OVER AND OVER. I mean, Nekonin won, but he could have mixed it up a lot more by doing some things to counter the jump-outs once in a while. The large number of wrong combos was annoying me, either not going for the most damage or going for a high damage combo that doesn't work there. Also that was a lot of 5Ds I am surprised he didn't get his ass countered all day.
Darlos9D Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 I guess what can be said here is that somebody can win and still be unimpressive... @SolBadass: maybe I'm just misunderstanding the new 2C - I'm pretty sure it has invincibility vs air but I'm not really sure on the actual frame data - but it seemed like there were some times where Hakumen was jumping around right over Tager and attacking in such a way that 2C would have countered.
A.X.I.S. Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 I guess what can be said here is that somebody can win and still be unimpressive... @SolBadass: maybe I'm just misunderstanding the new 2C - I'm pretty sure it has invincibility vs air but I'm not really sure on the actual frame data - but it seemed like there were some times where Hakumen was jumping around right over Tager and attacking in such a way that 2C would have countered. I took a looksie at tager's CS frame chart and here's the few things i nutted myself on. 5A +2 on block. 5D +2 on block. 4D 0F on block. 2C 11~14F head invul. 360B 6F grab. atomic colider 7~16F head invul. well thats if i'm looking at it right... look before you leap.
Isorropia Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 However, one thing to note about 2C that helps it is, while it only has head invuln from frame 11, tager is crouching for the move's startup until it hits. While this won't help against deep jumpins or like....haku's j.2c, in general terms it helps it to be a good aa by having him duck under aerials. Also, you guys are being pretty critical of that tager. Can't we all be supportive? >.>
g0th1k4 Posted April 6, 2010 Posted April 6, 2010 no that tager was pretty bad to be honest lol....missed so many AA opportunities and IB 360/720 opporunities...and the fact it was relying on BC throw so much rather than 360....oh god lol
A.X.I.S. Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 hell no that tager did nothing right! well i thought using 4D ender was nice for quick mag but gadget would have been more rewarding, and that haku-men was bad too.
Heroic_Legacy Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN_pTrdLoQ8 No Nekonin. Just no.
Skye Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 He looked a bit new to the scene, he was doing stuff that had me going "No, you shouldn't have done that! Do this instead!", and I don't even play Tager anymore, nor have I touched CS.
ShinsoBEAM Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN_pTrdLoQ8 No Nekonin. Just no. Dora be trolling. Favorite combo 2AAA,RC,2AA,RC,2AA top tier dora strat right there.
Manta Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 I think he's sitting in yomi layer 17 or something, I also think he's lonely. Also, anyone who taunts and gets away with it in a genius in my opinion.
Darlos9D Posted April 7, 2010 Posted April 7, 2010 look before you leap.I, uh, still would have liked to have seen it tried. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN_pTrdLoQ8 No Nekonin. Just no.I... what? Round 1 Also, Nekonin just seems indecisive or something. Like he does a 2D and then... just stands there.
Galt Posted April 11, 2010 Posted April 11, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Cj3ZnsAf8 Pachi vs lil galileo
Darlos9D Posted April 12, 2010 Posted April 12, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Cj3ZnsAf8 Pachi vs lil galileo With the camera shaking around, it's just like watching a modern action movie! Good match though. I didn't see it happen, but I assume Lamda's DP has enough recovery if you block it to where you can punish it, right? If not, that could get annoying.
ShinsoBEAM Posted April 12, 2010 Posted April 12, 2010 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q1Cj3ZnsAf8 Pachi vs lil galileo 2:55 always hold down the 720C.
Darlos9D Posted April 13, 2010 Posted April 13, 2010 2:55 always hold down the 720C. Haha, yeah really. I was disappoint right there.
g0th1k4 Posted April 17, 2010 Posted April 17, 2010 in case anyone's interested this is a vid of me playing :P last night with other toronto people http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4mufBNd1jo&playnext_from=TL&videos=_2imRog6mKs&feature=sub look at all the combos i messed up torontofiends is the channel for the toronto players and we just uploaded a number of matches last night from our mini tournament so go ahead n check em out if ud like
Mike Z Posted April 17, 2010 Posted April 17, 2010 in case anyone's interested this is a vid of me playing :PFew things: - If you do a combo where they got knocked down (360/AC/3C in it somewhere) with 5D, remember you can do a Gadget whiff to cut off the 5D and start getting close again faster. - On Rachel you can do ACx2, 5C->6A xx AC, etc. - On Rachel you can also do 360B, 6A->2C xx AC for 4500ish, instead of ASledge, Gadget. - Don't let her get away with all those jump-back cannons when she's magnetized! AC or 5D and bring her to you...it's worth taking the dmg. Or at least ASledge them, you can do more to get in than just BSl or sj.C. - You're using my color. I've been using it since CT or some shiz. ;^)
g0th1k4 Posted April 18, 2010 Posted April 18, 2010 oh wow i did not know about those rachel specific combos...thx for the input i'll post a link for a few more after my friend uploads em after recording from today
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