South Carolina?

[SimpleKiss]

Well its nice that they arent all mad at you. I just think killakev might not be the biggest fan of you for awhile ,but im sure he will eventuallly come around.

It's like...

Should I be mad that someone I dont know got beef with me, or should I be mad at the fact that I don't even know who the person who got beef with me is.

[ConvoltedStyLe]

It's like...

Should I be mad that someone I dont know got beef with me, or should I be mad at the fact that I don't even know who the person who got beef with me is.

I would be mad at both lol. That is kinda funny tho. I hate you ,but you dont know who i am.

[SimpleKiss]

I would be mad at both lol. That is kinda funny tho. I hate you ,but you dont know who i am.

Sounds like a mission for Steven Seagal.

[ConvoltedStyLe]

Sounds like a mission for Steven Seagal.

Nah you dont need to shoot any kids lol.

[Award Tour]

lol @ the last couple posts. killakev should be the red-head dude that play el fuerte.

[ConvoltedStyLe]

lol @ the last couple posts. killakev should be the red-head dude that play el fuerte.

AwardTour what the hell is wrong with you. Knowing these unknown people. Gakman says because you know who he is you dont get FFXlll. Gakman says Killakev is as imaginary as Byron lol.

[SimpleKiss]

lol @ the last couple posts. killakev should be the red-head dude that play el fuerte.

I see. So he was the quiet dude in the back who i didn't even directly speak to at all.

Somehow I dont think it'd go over well if I started callin him the Gingerbread Man.

[ConvoltedStyLe]

Gakman: Why KillaKev posting them fighting words. He better watch out before he gets jumpped.

[SimpleKiss]

Gakman: Why KillaKev posting them fighting words. He better watch out before he gets jumpped.

Gakman trying to start fights. He needs to leave the ginger alone.

[JamsLegs]

lol I just looked at that thread... Made me smile :smile: lol.... I bet he's 5'4 livin' wit his mom still Killkev

[Award Tour]

@jamslegs: haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[SimpleKiss]

Leaked article on SSF4 that wasn't supposed to be out till tomorrow. He tested the retail version of the game (nothing's going to change.) Dudley is probably the best character in the game, it seems:

Wouldn't it be nice if someone who cared about what SRK wants to know could spend some time with Super Street Fighter 4's final build, and then tell us what he saw? Wish granted, apparently. Joey "MrWizard" Cuellar got to spend most of yesterday playing the retail build, and he got permission to talk to the press about it! Good thing he chose Shoryuken.com as his preferred press outlet! I got the chance to talk with Joey for a couple of hours last night about all the changes he saw to the old characters, and see how some of the new ones were shaping up. If you want to read his brutally honest opinions, you need only click the "read more" button.

Joey started off by noting that changes to old characters are pretty minimal. He said that all characters seem to hit lv2 focus faster, other than Seth, so that makes Focus Attacking universally faster unles you are naked. He also noted that damage scaling after a focus cancel (not just the focus attack) scales harder now, and he estimated roughly 30% harder. He then did a character by character breakdown for me. Here are my notes from what he said. (Note that U1 and U2 are refering to Ultras 1 and 2 respectively)

Quote Originally Posted by A very sleepy MrWizard

Ryu - Ryu's medium and hard dragon punches hit twice now. Damage is down on it, but if you FADC, you only get one hit from it, so damage is down even farther. Trades to ultra from DP are gone, and most trades into ultra from SF4 are gone, but not all.

Ken - He is not looking good. They didnt give him much. He cannot FADC to Ultra2 normally. He didnt get crazy kicks from previous SF games. They slightly improved his fireball.

Chun li - She got 'infinitely better'. U2 combos easily all day. The upkicks target combo goes into U2, as well as EX legs anywhere on the scree. Its very dangerous. U2 gets all 20 hits every time, if it wiffs for a while and you get hit by the very end of it, you still take the full damage.

Guile - He seems to have been given nothing. Sonic Hurricane, his U2 is not good. Super into U2 is the only known combo into it. Down+Taunt puts on glasses, but doesnt give him any buffs or advantages.

Zangeif - Very similar. He could lariat trade into U2 in earlier builds, but he cannot anymore.

Rose - She can juggle off soul reflect into air throw or U1 or ex fireball. U2 is very good. Can corner juggle into orbs. Each orb can hit once before it dissipates, including on block. They do about 20% damage each on full ultra. Wiz noted that he needs to check what happens when projectiles hit them. When the orbs activate, there is a delay before you can do special moves again, including throw. They delay felt like 3-4 seconds. Orbs cross up very easy. Rose seemed powerful.

Blanka - Wiz didnt get a good chance to test Blanka

Honda - Wiz didnt get a good chance to test Honda

Dhalsim - He seemed the same. No notes on U2.

Balrog - Rush punches are unthrowable now. His U2 is bad, it has terrible range. Seemed too hard to land to be worth giving up U1.

Vega - Seemed the same. His Claw stays on a lot longer now, though.

Sagat - He does less damage overall. Scar-uppercut does double damage, nothing more. If you do scar move, you cant do it again until you uppercut, but you can store the powered up state the entire round if you want.

Bison - J.Strong into U2 works. Its not a charge motion so its very handy. U2 is a blockable stomp attack, and it can crossup! It hits hard, too! No known nerfs.

Rufus - Ex messiah kick is not as good, but still good. EX snake strike damage is way down. U2 doesnt seem to combo well. U2 is good anticrossup or antiair, but thats about it.

Fuerte - Wiz didnt get a good chance to test Fuerte

Viper - No notable changes. She can U2 off EX seismo if you are fast. The recovery from U2 is ok. Rumors of mp thunder nerf are untrue or reversed, if its slower its only a frame or two.

Abel - He has a faster c.hk. U2 cant combo but its fast and has armor if you hold the button, it looks to be very good.

Guy - Feels slow. Has cool chain combos into super. EX spin kick is vertical. EX shoulder is his best move, super fast.

Cammy - Cannon drill 'got a little better', so I heard, but I have no details. Uppercut damage nerfed pretty hard. U2 is terrible.

Fei - Wiz didnt get a good chance to test Fei Long

Gouken - No known nerfs. U2 still blockable, but backthrow into 5 hits of it into wallbounce into more fun works.

Sakura - Her crossup j.mk is back. Very good crossup. Makes her feel more like sakura again. U2 is the best choice. Its two ultras in one, okay damage, easy to combo, can aim it up or forward. EX hurricane to ultra is simple as hell.

Dan - Dan is secretly super good now, team has been working hard on him. Uppercut fadc U2 is strong. His fireball goes 60% of the screen now. The rest seems untouched, but this is 'all he needed' to be a contender.

Akuma - no known nerfs. Many of the nerfs from earlier builds were reverted. Infinite is gone, but you can still combo after s.hk. Jab cannot link to HK anymore, so you cant loop it. Lv2 focus into new ultra wiffs, but works from Lv3 focus. EX airfireball into U2 works.

Gen - Wiz didnt get a good chance to test Gen

Seth - Everything is the same, except his focus attack takes longer to hit lv2 now. Its not very good. U2 can combo anywhere you could combo stomps and does good damage.

Juri - Kara throw is good with HP. Wiz could only find a 5 hit Custom Combo in U1 mode without FADC. U1 mode is really long in duration. Divekick hits overhead. EX wheelkick seems nearly instant startup. Hitpoints seemed close to Ibuki's, but it was hard to tell.

T.Hawk - Hawkdive is his armor breaker. Hawk Upper cannot be FADCed at all, ever, at any point. U2 is bad, very very hard to hit. Feels slower than Zangief but stronger. His normals are very good.

Adon - He seems very weak. Both ultras are hard to use. Jaguar Tooth and Jaguar Kick are both unsafe on block. Air Jag-kick might be safe. EX jag kick is safe. Has a very good overhead though, one of the best.

Deejay - He seems decent. Nothing too bad, nothing too good. Reminds you of ST in that way.

Cody - He can only FADC tornado on first hit and the tornado wont come out. He cannot combo ultra after it. Has 3 levels of charge on his Zonk Knuckle, and its really really good and annoying. He says BINGO everytime he does it. You can combo into Zonk. HK ruffian is good.

Dudley - Not much to add to JWong's video, but he is probably #1 in the game.

Makoto - EX grab has 1 hit of armor! Outside of this, nothing to add to JWong's video.

Ibuki - Nothing to add to JWong's video.

That about wraps it up. Im sure if Joey gets more playtime, I'll be able to squeeze a little more information out of him for you guys. He also told me about one more... Hmmm, no, that will have to wait!

[ConvoltedStyLe]

Leaked article on SSF4 that wasn't supposed to be out till tomorrow. He tested the retail version of the game (nothing's going to change.) Dudley is probably the best character in the game, it seems:

Well I can tolerate the game now that I actually have a character I like. (Ibuki ftw) I can finally put all that Viper bullshit behind me now.

[SimpleKiss]

Well I can tolerate the game now that I actually have a character I like. (Ibuki ftw) I can finally put all that Viper bullshit behind me now.

Chun-Li looks fucking scary now. That bitch is going to be real. EX command grab gives makoto super armor? wtf?

[ConvoltedStyLe]

Chun-Li looks fucking scary now. That bitch is going to be real. EX command grab gives makoto super armor? wtf?

Whats the speed of it? Can we react fast enough to do an armor breaking move or just jump away?

[SimpleKiss]

Whats the speed of it? Can we react fast enough to do an armor breaking move or just jump away?

Certainly alot faster than Fei's. From watching the justin wong video, if it's still the same, I'd guess it comes out within 5-8 frames. If this is true, it'd be really hard to use a move that breaks glass on reaction, well, depending on your char. Fei would just CW because it does break glass at point blank and has complete throw invincibility.

[ConvoltedStyLe]

Certainly alot faster than Fei's. From watching the justin wong video, if it's still the same, I'd guess it comes out within 5-8 frames. If this is true, it'd be really hard to use a move that breaks glass on reaction, well, depending on your char. Fei would just CW because it does break glass at point blank and has complete throw invincibility.

I see. Sadly I didnt get to see the Makoto demo Justin did. Only the Ibuki one.

[SimpleKiss]

I see. Sadly I didnt get to see the Makoto demo Justin did. Only the Ibuki one.

I see.

[ConvoltedStyLe]

I see.

Im mad you said I see lol. I know I say it alot, but dang:vbang:

[SimpleKiss]

Im mad you said I see lol. I know I say it alot, but dang:vbang:

Im mad that you see

[ConvoltedStyLe]

Im mad that you see

Im just gonna let it go:vbang:

[gByakko]

Yo Convolted, if you still want to see the Makoto demo, here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoFGdh-ubY4&feature=player_embedded

[ConvoltedStyLe]

Yo Convolted, if you still want to see the Makoto demo, here's the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoFGdh-ubY4&feature=player_embedded

Thanks man. Also......................FINAL ROUND GET HYPE!!!!!!!!!!

[SimpleKiss]

Steven Seagall is hype for Final round. Are you?

[ConvoltedStyLe]

Steven Seagall is hype for Final round. Are you?

So what time are you gonna be joining us. We are gonna be leaving at 8 in the morning.