GG:AC Official Tier List Thread

[Adelheid]

They didn't fix it in X+, it's still quite intact. They may have fixed it in 1.5 but that was basically a test of the Atomiswave hardware and not meant to be taken seriously.

In any case, we're getting incredibly off-topic here so this is my last post on the subject in this thread.

Really? Sytha, Teyah, and I were screwing around with X+ last night, and it really seemed like it wasn't there.

But yeah, off-topicness

[ansem]

What would be the tier for Justice and Kliff for AC+ ?

[JinSaotome]

S++ whether justice is better than kliff or not is prolly debatable, though. Kliff: Manlier-than-Eddie damage, the near-ultimate anti-oki move, unno about mixup, super awesome screen filling projectie, projectile DoT that leads into death combo Justice: Godly oki projectile, Manliest damage, broke ass forcebreak, huge range, etc. now if only they toned them down and made them tournament legal. ;_; I would so main Kliff

[alucard19]

quick question.Why did millia go down so low in the new tier list?

[Teyah]

High reliance on setups, poor neutral game without Pin, among the worst abare (ability to score damage from random hits) in the game, and overall low damage output. C rank seems accurate enough for now, though I could see her hovering around the B rank as well.

[Discotheque]

Not to mention that she takes a fuckton of damage.

[JinSaotome]

Well, low defense isn't too much of a factor when everyone dies in 2-3 combos anyway. Unless you're fighting someone like Slayer, or A.B.A., and others with S++ damage.

[Tsak]

Well, low defense isn't too much of a factor when everyone dies in 2-3 combos anyway.

Unless you're fighting someone like Slayer, or A.B.A., and others with S++ damage.

um off random hits?

most characters in the game off random hits can make game ending combos on her

[JackG]

I don't know how her abare is "among the worst". If you're clever off of most random hits you can get good damage and knockdown via relaunch shenanigans.

[Teyah]

Care to give any examples? For standardization, let's define "good damage" as 40%+.

[Koichi>All]

I can't see how Millia is ranked the same as Anji, Dizzy and many others in C tier, she's just not that bad, really. And Chipp too, I can't say he's a good char, but he's just not as bad as Johnny, I-no and Bridget.

[EasyModeNub]

I can't see how Millia is ranked the same as Anji, Dizzy and many others in C tier, she's just not that bad, really.

And Chipp too, I can't say he's a good char, but he's just not as bad as Johnny, I-no and Bridget.

C tier is very broad, not every character in the C tier is even with one another; they just aren't quite B or D tier.

She's C tier for the reason lister earlier by Teyah. Poor in nuetral situations without pin, low damage abare, very reliant on oki/set ups, and she as tough as wet paper.

[Koichi>All]

Well, she just seems better than any of other C tier chars to me, and with Venom and Axl being B, I don't fell like she should be C at all, imo she's at least as good as both of them. I'm not really based on theorical stuff, like 'oh she has weak defense' and wathever, baiken takes big damage too but she's still one of the best chars in the game, I watch pretty much all the matches people posts, so i'm more based on that. Obviously, this is all just imo

[Discotheque]

Baiken at least has guts 5, which means near the last quarter of her health, the opponent pretty much has to land a solid combo to kill her instead of random pokes/hits. She has solid damage outputs that really only revolves around 6 hits (tatami launch , j.p, j.s, j.D -> iad j.s j.D) unlike Millia who has to land 10hits-15 hits or even more to do 50% life (often using 25% tension or pin). Baiken just has a better defensive game (duh iad backwards tatami+counters) and a pretty good jump-ins (j.s, j.h) when the need comes. She doesn't have nearly as "bad" match-ups compared to Millia as well. Venom is a solid B tier character. Best lockdown at corner. If you get sweeped and he has 50% tension, you're at the corner+you lose all your tension from Dark Angel. His 6P+6HS is one of the best AA's in the game. Only thing he lacks is great damage outputs and once he gets rushed down, he has trouble escaping from pressure. Axl is well, I think much more debatable. He has great normals, but his game plan is really predictable. I agree with Teyah. She's like hovering in between C+B.

[alucard19]

Thanks for the explanation guys.

[Spirit Juice]

Baiken has a guts rating of four, I believe. Anji is the only one with a five.

[Discotheque]

Yeah, my mistake. That half-naked Asian guy has guts 5.

[LH621]

No, Baiken's Guts rating is a 5 according to http://www.dustloop.com/data/ac/system.html

[alucard19]

what's a "guts rating" mean"?

[Chomite]

what's a "guts rating" mean"?

http://www.dustloop.com/ggac/data/dast.html

:8/:

[qwerty]

what's a "guts rating" mean"?

ever notice how your 150 damage combo does a hell of a lot less towards the end of certain characters life bars? that's guts.

[Spirit Juice]

Huh. Could've sworn it was four. shruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug

[Vicioso]

I don't know how her abare is "among the worst". If you're clever off of most random hits you can get good damage and knockdown via relaunch shenanigans.

maybe in #R

but in AC? yea right...

but i think shes B tier, C is a little too low, shes got that potential

[Adelheid]

Huh. Could've sworn it was four. shruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuug

This is apparently a pretty widespread belief. I'm going to claim it was only changed to 5 for AC.

[Digital Watches]

Or people were just wrong...