NasaXnieru Posted October 17, 2010 Posted October 17, 2010 Can someone please point me to the most recent matchup chart / tier list from Japan?
BladeOfJustice7 Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Zidane vs. Pulsr matchup. MUST. SEE. Spirit Juice make it happen. Can someone please point me to the most recent matchup chart / tier list from Japan? This Correct me if I'm wrong but, don't they release new tier lists after SBO traditionally?
currentlemon Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 worldjem can you put the new match-up chart on the front page so people don't have to keep going through page by page to find it.
St1ckBuG Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 I sent him s PM to publish the one we just finished.
Spirit Juice Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 worldjem: I only ask you to use the standard two letter abbreviations for your chart, rather than the ones you normally use. AR: Arakune BA: Bang CA: Carl HK: Haku-men HZ: Hazama LA: Lambda LI: Litchi JI: Jin NO: Noel MA: Makoto MU: Mu RC: Rachel RG: Ragna TG: Tager TO: Taokaka TS: Tsubaki
iamkitkatbar Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 worldjem: I only ask you to use the standard two letter abbreviations for your chart, rather than the ones you normally use. AR: Arakune BA: Bang CA: Carl HK: Haku-men HZ: Hazama LA: Lambda LI: Litchi JI: Jin NO: Noel PL: Platinum MA: Makoto MU: Mu RC: Rachel RG: Ragna TG: Tager TO: Taokaka TS: Tsubaki VK: Valkenhyne you forgot the team pooch and loli
farranpoison Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 you forgot the team pooch and loli Valk hasn't been here long enough for a tier ranking. Plat isn't even out yet.
iamkitkatbar Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Valk hasn't been here long enough for a tier ranking. Plat isn't even out yet. It has nothing to do with tiers
BladeOfJustice7 Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Which page is the chart even on? http://www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?8432-BB-CS-Match-Up-Chart&p=779396&viewfull=1#post779396
ToastCrust Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Considering no other characters currently use VA, Valkenhyn would be VA, not VK. And since neither VA nor PL are taken by any other character right now, while for completion's sake it might be worthwhile to put into that reference, it's really unnecessary since there isn't any weird non-default stuff like Tager and Taokaka or Rachel and Ragna.
St1ckBuG Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 It has nothing to do with tiers It has everything to do with a match-up chart, which in turn makes your tiers.
Spirit Juice Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Whomever changed Ragna v Lambda to 4:6 is a fucking moron. Just sayin'.
BladeOfJustice7 Posted October 27, 2010 Posted October 27, 2010 Whomever changed Ragna v Lambda to 4:6 is a fucking moron. Just sayin'. Probably the same person who said haku v.s lambda is 6-4. It's at most even.
Sophisticat Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 ^ Feels 4-6 vs. the really good ones, though. :P Considering no other characters currently use VA, Valkenhyn would be VA, not VK. And since neither VA nor PL are taken by any other character right now, while for completion's sake it might be worthwhile to put into that reference, it's really unnecessary since there isn't any weird non-default stuff like Tager and Taokaka or Rachel and Ragna. I disagree. Valkenhayn is a manly character with class. "VA" does not sound manly, nor does it have class. "VK" is manly and has class. Therefore, we should use VK since it is not only more badass, but fits him better.
ToastCrust Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 >subjective impression more important than consistency in abbreviation convention
Spirit Juice Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 ^ Feels 4-6 vs. the really good ones, though. :P I disagree. Valkenhayn is a manly character with class. "VA" does not sound manly, nor does it have class. "VK" is manly and has class. Therefore, we should use VK since it is not only more badass, but fits him better. Don't care if you think VK is more manly than VA. There's a standard to be followed here.
SolheartStud Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Whomever changed Ragna v Lambda to 4:6 is a fucking moron. Just sayin'. Agree....theres no way this match-up is worse than Ragna v Nu from CT....
felipebwk Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 "Ragna vs Taokaka" - 45-55, is this really correct? always thought it was 5-5, with a little advantage to Ragna. I think "Ragna vs lambda" is at most 4.5-5.5 ... "Ragna vs Carl"> 5-5, do not know why, but I really think this fight as an advantage for Carl, I think 4.5 - 5.5, for Carl, better reflects this match ... note: these are my opinions, based on videos, comments from other users and matches I played...
FlyingVe Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Why don't we at least wait for revised list to be posted before we start giving our hair-brained opinions about it?
ToastCrust Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 I think the "No 0.5 changes" rule still applies.
Synthesis Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 (edited) I hate the idea of no 0.5 changes. It does matter, and if it didn't, there wouldn't even be that option. I think those numbers, for Mu at least, are relatively inaccurate. But who am I? I'm not on the east coast. =/ Edited October 28, 2010 by Synthesis
SolheartStud Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 Why don't we at least wait for revised list to be posted before we start giving our hair-brained opinions about it? Because it's fun to talk about them either way? All joking aside, when you mean revised do you mean just to wait for when the first CS2 tier list comes out?
SolheartStud Posted October 28, 2010 Posted October 28, 2010 "Ragna vs Taokaka" - 45-55, is this really correct? always thought it was 5-5, with a little advantage to Ragna. I think "Ragna vs lambda" is at most 4.5-5.5 ... "Ragna vs Carl"> 5-5, do not know why, but I really think this fight as an advantage for Carl, I think 4.5 - 5.5, for Carl, better reflects this match ... note: these are my opinions, based on videos, comments from other users and matches I played... Only reason I can think that people may think that it's in Tao's favor is that Tauntloop can do insane damage to Ragna who has low health.... Whats silly (to me) about Ragna V Lambda being a 4-6 is that Lambda controls the match for a while, but once Ragna gets in he's in and can do damage. Guaranteed Lambda can do the same amount but it's harder for her to set it up. Again, I feel the same about Ragna V Carl too....however....it's probably more about who has the better zoning game between the two players. Both characters can deal damage and neither have trouble keeping up with each other in terms of it so thats probably why it's 5-5. Keep note that these are my opinions based on videos, and expierience as well so take it with a grain of salt since I am by no means an expert player.
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