[CPEX] Hakumen Gameplay Discussion

[WolfCrimson]

Too bad CS1 was slow as molasses.

[BlackYakuzu94]

So apparently you can get 7k off an air CH Gurren in the corner.

 

 

Nice to know his damage is still dumb even without OD :V 

[mAc Chaos]

You can't say something like that and not tell us how. :3

[BlackYakuzu94]

Same old way you always do in the corner, lemme see if I can remember everything.

 

 

 

(5) CH 214A, 5C>41236C>623A>6C, 2C>jc J.C>delay 214B>AD J.C, 5C, 3C(6.8k>7k)

[mAc Chaos]

Oh.

In the corner.

I just saw "do 7k with Gurren off air hit" and my vision whited out.

[BlackYakuzu94]

Oh.

In the corner.

I just saw "do 7k with Gurren off air hit" and my vision whited out.

 

If only, if only.

[The_undercover_beret]

Oh.

In the corner.

I just saw "do 7k with Gurren off air hit" and my vision whited out.

 

It's actually possible midscreen but it requires OD:

 

Air Hit CH Guren < Kishuu < OD < 5C < Zantetsu < CT < 5C < Kishuu < 2C < TK Hotaru < AD J.2C < 5C < Shippu (level 2) 7871 Damage, OD 80% Health, 8 magatama

At full health:   ~ < AD J.2C < 2C < hjc < J.B < J.2A < Tsubaki 7251 Damage

 

Doesn't work close to the ground. If Guren is not done too far away from the opponent, the CH is not even required. 

 

If you can use this combo in a real match, you should start playing the lottery.

[Moblin]

You can get 7-8k off 2a in the corner with OD, it all just depends on the situation.

 

Seems like Hakumen is gonna be even more about hard reads.   I'm excited to learn the new Mugen combos though.

 

 

A gameplan I'm going to try out is getting the opponent to burst early and then being conservative until I can get a mugen starter, which should be manageable since 2a CH > 6a > Mugen does 8k.

[The_undercover_beret]

 

A gameplan I'm going to try out is getting the opponent to burst early and then being conservative until I can get a mugen starter, which should be manageable since 2a CH > 6a > Mugen does 8k.

 

8k? What is the combo? The only 2A Mugen combo I saw dealt 6.4k without OD.

[Moblin]

Idk, I'll have to find it again.  But it probably used OD, I just forgot that it did because it's been a couple months since I saw the vid

[Raziul]

2D can counter highs in CP2?

 

http://youtu.be/uiU9Ock_Kr0?t=12m00s

 

Unless Carl's j.2C is no longer head property...

[BlackYakuzu94]

Hasn't that always been the case? 

 

EDIT: Nvm, its an H attribute...hmmm.

[Spark]

j.2C isn't an overhead (since CT?) so 2D can catch it.

[Raziul]

Gotcha.

[BlackYakuzu94]

Ya know what I see a lot of Hakumens do as of late, Renka(1)>Zantetsu. Is that easy to react to or what?

[Raziul]

Throw them off with Zan(1) > renka, they'll never block that!

[BlackYakuzu94]

Yo, imma start doing 5C>ODc and do that shit. See how many can block it.

[mAc Chaos]

Ya know what I see a lot of Hakumens do as of late, Renka(1)>Zantetsu. Is that easy to react to or what?

That's kind of weird. That was like my CT day 1 mixup.

[Schneider-X]

Isn't that like every day 1 hakumen's mixup?

Do a combo that also happens to mixup as well?

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[mAc Chaos]

The same for pressure.

[IndigoNovember]

CP2 Overdrive Combos: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm25147694 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvFs7tgH3To

 

Doing 1 Ragna's worth of damage is so last version, we've moved onto 1 Arakune's and more.

[Raziul]

Say good bye to all of Hakumen's credibility, but damn those mugen combos were cool.

[BlackYakuzu94]

I noticed they removed the SMP on 6C.

[mAc Chaos]

lol, I saw 4 stars + OD for 3k at first and almost didn't watch the rest of it, but it picks up in the 2nd half.

It's almost like there's no scaling on Shippu. But a lot of these combos are done with Haku at 10%.

[someonewhodied]

6C still has smp. It looks like its just lv1 smp now.