mAc Chaos Posted February 3, 2015 Posted February 3, 2015 Wait what do you mean costs 4 stars? You mean you can do OD after 6A and effectively Mugen after 4 stars?
Raziul Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Just to add to our collection of great 5D moments Gotta love a good read.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 So apparently, you can still catch overheads with J.D? hmmmmm?
Raziul Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 I think the only requirement was the minimum height nerf going from extend to CP. Otherwise I've seen all kinds of crazy nonsense get grabbed by it. I should use it more myself to be honest.
mAc Chaos Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 You can still catch overheads. You just need more time to do it.Also I love catching ID with 5D.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 Welp, I know what I'm gonna start practicing. It might the closest thing we have to having the old 6D back.
Raziul Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 TK Hotaru will probably be better for you to practice. Only something like 4 frames till you're invincible when done perfectly. Now that's something I definitely abuse.
Schneider-X Posted February 4, 2015 Posted February 4, 2015 I'll just put this here again. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sJctSM8CBPs. Also j.D has always been able to catch any attack move, it just has a minimum height requirement now.
Moblin Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I was almost starting to get the Fatal Agito follow-up after j.d to work, too. Does anyone know if you can cancel into agito after a successful j.D in 2.0, just manually?
BlackYakuzu94 Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I was almost starting to get the Fatal Agito follow-up after j.d to work, too. Does anyone know if you can cancel into agito after a successful j.D in 2.0, just manually? I forgot th J.D>Agito even existed.... And no, I believe they took out all counter follow up options outside the cancellable ones.
Moblin Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I see, I guess I forgot most of the changes since I've looked at them. Are there now only certain specials that can be cancelled into from a counter? I know Yukikaze, Renka and Zantetsu are possible, but I didn't know you couldn't use certain specials
BlackYakuzu94 Posted February 7, 2015 Posted February 7, 2015 I think you can use all specials, but the follow up doesn't freeze the opponent so they can block during the special startup. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Schneider-X Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 None of hakumen's normal counters have froze the opponent in CP. So all special cancelled moves carry a risk Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Moblin Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 2d enma follow up has always been viable against characters that don't have lots of multi-hitting attacks. If it's possible to get it to be exactly the same, I wonder what the execution requirement is like to just manually cancel into Enma out of a 2d catch in 2.0. You can't immediately jump cancel OD it into 7k anymore, but it might still be worth it. edit: Also liked your new mugen vids today. That's going to be really, really fun when 2.0 rolls around.
Moblin Posted February 9, 2015 Posted February 9, 2015 True, it might be something worth pursuing though. Another situation: I've had the regular grab off 2d be blocked because the opponent hit it with a jump cancellable move and then jumped and blocked. 2d ---> Cancel into Renka would be pretty useful as well for the low to catch them while they hold up. Maybe that's probably why they changed Renka into stagger I feel like. Otherwise it's an easy staircase combo off a 2d since Renka comes out really fast. Way too OP for me The risk and reward of using stars just doesn't seem worth it to me when Mugen > OD combos look so strong in 2.0 though. Especially since there are lots of ways that you can confirm into 7-8k without having to Mugen > OD in neutral and hope for a cheesey hit. Birth of Turtle Hakumen in 2.0? Idk.
Schneider-X Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Nothing about the risks of mugen have changed. It just has a higher reward now. Gotta force them to use their burst first. Also I still need to try and optimize air throw OD mugen combos a bit more. I think I can get three waves but combo timer is already tight on what I uploaded. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Moblin Posted February 10, 2015 Posted February 10, 2015 Have we been able to find any optimal 2.0 Mugen combos from Japanese vids?
IndigoNovember Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 Have we been able to find any optimal 2.0 Mugen combos from Japanese vids? I've only seen neta combo videos at the moment. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y8rc_6Im60 Chin has switched over to Izayoi. No clue if the change is permanent or not.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted February 11, 2015 Posted February 11, 2015 I just saw him using Hakumen a few weeks ago. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Moblin Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I plan on at least subbing izayoi once 2.0 hits as well, Hakumen will always be my hakuna matata guy though. Looks like it's up to us to figure out optimal Mugen combos then... Surprising that the Japenese players haven't figured out this tech yet.
IndigoNovember Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 I just saw him using Hakumen a few weeks ago. Oh cool. Maybe she's his sub then. Looks like it's up to us to figure out optimal Mugen combos then... Surprising that the Japenese players haven't figured out this tech yet. While probably not optimal combos, the ones in the Mugen explanation and analysis video could be a good starting point: http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24777704 / https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVVE7mNNtFs I suspect they'll look somewhat similar since Hakumen has to use up lots of Magatama in order to power up Shippu (oh how I miss you Extend days when Shippu was just a flat 4k in Mugen, dat 6D > Mugen > Shippu for unburstable 5.4k).
mAc Chaos Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4xGYvf_dPQGo to :50. It looks like Hakumen still has his current Enma followup out of counter for 1 star.
BlackYakuzu94 Posted February 12, 2015 Posted February 12, 2015 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4xGYvf_dPQ Go to :50. It looks like Hakumen still has his current Enma followup out of counter for 1 star. I want you to pay very close attention to the date on that video.
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