Middle Tennessee Needs Gaming! Monthly Versus Tourneys - Antioch, TN

[Anne]

So if anyone is down and can put up with netcode, I'm fine with doing some Persona, GG, and maybe Street Fighter IV casuals to get some practice in before KoB, which I just got off for. I don't care to host on PSN. I'm off rest of today and tomorrow.

If you hit me up on twitter today I'll play some P4U. I'll play SF4 but only on xbox. PSN + PS3 lag actually makes me upset :<

[Alphakami]

So I made a little Ky +R combo chart.

Ky is better than Sol.

Kyle has advised me to make vid links for it. Any other suggestions?

[Klein]

The all uppercase "YES" and "NO" hurts my eyes.

[AlexSanteria]

The the Persona 4 Arena sequel has a name and new OG character. Say Hello to Persona 4 The Ultimax Ultra Suplex Hold:

http://shoryuken.com/2013/09/26/persona-4-arena-the-ultimax-ultra-suplex-hold-officially-announced-trailer-reveals-new-character-sho-minazuki/

Also the camp gay beatdown commences:

Edited September 27, 2013 by AlexSanteria

[Anne]

Thanks for coming out and being on point today guys.

[Jackie Chandler]

September 28th MTNG Tournament Results:

Guilty Gear Accent Core +R:

Persona 4 Arena:

King of Fighters XIII:

Akatsuki Blitzkampf: Ausf Asche

Vampire Savior:

Thanks again to everyone who made this a tournament a success, and a huge thanks goes to M'Ellis for running everything smoothly and making it so that I was more of a consultant than a T.O., haha. Hope to see everyone out at King of Bling!

[Kyle]

Yo Dayuuummm!

Dawww you guys.

:3

Looks like too much fun.

Wish I was there... wanna see some footage. Tell me about how everyone saved Vampires.

What was working? What was people losing to? How can I help?

Edited September 30, 2013 by Kyle

[Anne]

I lost in VSav to not having played the game :S I'll play a bit more and try to get into it. Kinda in a weird spot of just fiddling with stuff since P4A is starting to hit a point of blegh for me.

[AlexSanteria]

So from the Canada Cup we got this match and dear god, the level of play here was insane.

[Volpe-de-Glacio]

VSAV got me really hype, I'm glad we finally had a tourney for it. Haven't felt that rush in a good while, and it definitely inspired me to practice a lot harder.

@Kyle - I feel like the main things holding me back were a lack of match-up experience with Q Bee, not being able to reliably tech hit on pad, and having a weak rushdown game with Jedah. I had to rely on playing mad defense and throwing/poking/blood orb grabbing my way out of gaps in pressure.

Show me where the silly Jedah stuff at. Tad taught me a bit, and it got me thinking on how to apply my normals better. For now I'm working on learning midair blockstrings and testing out where I can use renda stuff to stop jabs and condition people to let me jump on their faces harder. Having more knowledge dropped on me definitely won't hurt. Can't wait to make my way up to Ohio or see you guys down here.

On that note, I'm finally going to put real effort into learning stick. On top of maybe being able to tech hit stuff now, I feel like it might be a good way to hit the reset button and rewrite my habits, not to mention clacking around on those buttons is satisfying.

GGs everyone.

Edited October 1, 2013 by Volpe-de-Glacio

[Kyle]

Regardless of tiers, jedah has a good time against Q-bee. Your air normals & movement can keep her out of the BUZZZZZ IAD range and Jedah can still mount an offense/reset which can confirm into a dashing mixup.

Rushdown: learn to 6[6]J.HK and land during the 2nd or 3rd hit, ACTIVE FRAMES. this gives the most advantage and allows you to, cr.lk, dash again or walk throw, or walk lp (to stuff jumps) etc. Jedah's poke game is strong. being defensive is not AS effective once players learn to beat your up+backs & Chicken-guarding etc.

Mid air block string, descending J.mp, J,hp.

I also like being neutral & poking w/ ascending j.mp then falling j.hp. Wall of limbs.

cr.lp RENDA cr.lp are must for jedah. Keep at it.

Silly Jedah Stuff:

www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?11975-VS-Jedah-Night-of-the-Demon&p=1478388&viewfull=1#post1478388

www.dustloop.com/forums/showthread.php?11975-VS-Jedah-Night-of-the-Demon&p=1478397&viewfull=1#post1478397

Good vids:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=vECNFWKaNSU#t=3m36s

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvY6HdxmzCY#t=1h51m42s

www.youtube.com/watch?v=CvY6HdxmzCY#t=1h35m40s

-Jedah's cr.mk & st.lp BLOW-UP QBEE you should literally be spamming it

Lastly, here's a dump of everything jedah I learned in may. I haven't aded to the character threads yet, probably should. Enjoy:

Claw x Wheel glitch is caused by Tech-Hitting the wheel standing and getting hit by the UB-Claw at the same time. Sooo cool.

From a reset a 6~[6] LATE j.hk is a weird cross-up in which the opponent CANNOT techhit & forces them to crouch, but than Jedah can Autocorrect j.mp.

After Jedah throws an ES-Wheel and confirms the air block, usually he goes for the UB-claw, However, most characters have an ability to stall their air mobility and avoid the claw after blocking the wheel. Shimatsuya was confirming their air block and then jumping into a full airchain to punish their movement options. Very effective at high lvl play.

Oouchi says d.hp infinite is “EASY!”. lol. just hold 6[6] and double-strum the J.hp. Saw him do 13-repetitions on SHUU Bishamon. We were all cheering.

Jedah’s DarkForce is a serious threat, it’s a get-out-of-jail-free card and when he is in the state all JP”s completely respected him and ran away.

The frame-trap mixup post Jedah’s airdash is to chain to J.hp. He can also delay the j.hp by a few frames in efforts to punish a chicken block. Regardless this usually setups a grounded UB or st.lp or cr.mk depending ondistance.

Doing IOH J.hk at a correct height to confirm a ground combo is critical. Input 6~[6] than hit j.hk as soon as possible. I recommend double strumming it.

Ground combo’s on hit always ended in st.mk for the +1 frame. Unless it was for the kill, than they would chain to cr.hk or cr.hp depending on spacing. Takes an experienced player to recognize where cr.hk would whiff & cr.hp is prefered.

Corner throw OKI w/ a low wheel than d.j.mp is really strong.

To input the pit super as a low-profile you buffer the inputs during cr.mk. contrasted to inputting 2, 5, 2+PPP and forcing jedah to stand up during the execution.

Against fireball characters, Jedah’s abuse advancing w/ 44~6[6] j.hp to confirm fireball punishes or stopping and staying at neutral.

HIgh lvl play has opponents trying to force 3-hit jumps-in against tall characters such as Jedah. however, the first attack needs to be very high. Jedah can recognize this, step toward than whiff cr.mk to force a low-profile and change the opponents spaceing. they will typically land BEHIND Jedah and he gets a free throw from this situation. Shimatsuya ABUSED this against Kaji & I.

Edited October 1, 2013 by Kyle

[Milln]

So from the Canada Cup we got this match and dear god, the level of play here was insane.

Video of Champ vs. Chris G

Champ lookin' like a Nascar driver, there. They look like thy're having fun, I like it.

[Grimstar]

Random question:

Anyone know of any locally owned game stores around TN that tend to break street dates? :P

[Jackie Chandler]

Wanna play the new Pokemon game early that bad, huh? :P

Nah, I don't know of any myself, but chances are that if you can find a local store that sells new games that ISN'T a chain retailer, they'll let you break the street date if you keep it on the down-low/plead and beg/promise them future business/get buddy buddy/suck some dick.

[Grimstar]

Wanna play the new Pokemon game early that bad, huh? :P

Nah, I don't know of any myself, but chances are that if you can find a local store that sells new games that ISN'T a chain retailer, they'll let you break the street date if you keep it on the down-low/plead and beg/promise them future business/get buddy buddy/suck some dick.

hmm.

Whelp, first time for everything.

[Anne]

From my experience if you have to ask that you're not finding a place that'll break street, and this probably isn't the best place to ask about it.

[AlexSanteria]

Random question:

Anyone know of any locally owned game stores around TN that tend to break street dates? :P

As someone who used to work games retail, chances are someplace that breaks street date probably bought stolen stock of a less than reputable "dealer". Not to mention, that shit is tracked. All it takes is you updating a system and it showing you first played a game before release date to get that shit noticed.

[Grimstar]

From my experience if you have to ask that you're not finding a place that'll break street, and this probably isn't the best place to ask about it.

...What are you, the Walter White of Video Game street dates?

[Anne]

...What are you, the Walter White of Video Game street dates?

I used to work in game retail when a competitor I knew got slammed for breaking street. Usually if street date is broken there was something shady in getting it or an employee decided to be really dumb, usually both. No retailer is gonna straight up break street unless you know somebody there really well, hence why if you need to ask it probably won't happen.

Also, most pubs don't care if you go online pre street date. There are some instances though (see Halo) where people started getting banned and junk though.

[AlexSanteria]

I used to work in game retail when a competitor I knew got slammed for breaking street. Usually if street date is broken there was something shady in getting it or an employee decided to be really dumb, usually both. No retailer is gonna straight up break street unless you know somebody there really well, hence why if you need to ask it probably won't happen.

Also, most pubs don't care if you go online pre street date. There are some instances though (see Halo) where people started getting banned and junk though.

Yeah apparently a few shops that broke street date have gotten a rep from Nintendo coming to say hi.

[Jackie Chandler]

Usually if street date is broken there was something shady in getting it or an employee decided to be really dumb, usually both. No retailer is gonna straight up break street unless you know somebody there really well, hence why if you need to ask it probably won't happen.

What? Retailers get games well before the release date all the time. There's nothing shady about making sure stores have plenty of stock before the games come out, especially when they're blockbuster games that require multiple shipments. Most chain retailers have sophisticated systems in place that simply won't allow the sale of a game early. That's why even if you find the game on store shelves at somewhere like Walmart, Best Buy, etc., the computer simply won't let the transaction go through. But some places, particularly Mom 'n Pop shops, don't have anything like that. They'll sell things to trusted customers as soon as they get them in, operating on a strict "don't ask, don't tell" policy. That said, however, they probably won't be breaking street date for a random stranger they've just met for the first time. On the off chance you let it slip, or were some sort of secret shopper to make sure they were following policy, they could end up losing their business. Not worth moving a single $40 game.

tl;dr - I disagree with the notions that breaking street date are shady or dumb on the retailer's part; however, it is undeniably difficult to find a store that'll break street date for you.

Yeah apparently a few shops that broke street date have gotten a rep from Nintendo coming to say hi.

And on a side note, I think this is toooooooootally ridiculous. I can understand shipping the game out early to make sure errors in shipment don't delay people's acquisition of the games, but did they really expect shipping it out two weeks early wouldn't result in people getting the game early, too? And even then, was it reeeeeeeally necessary for them to fucking fly a representative out to these places to take action? This is a kid's game, guys. Chill the fuck out. This is some straight-up stalker shit, tracking down who people posting on the internet are so they can fuck these Mom 'n Pop shops in the ass.

Edited October 3, 2013 by Jackie Chandler

[Anne]

Jackie, I'll explain this all on Skype, there's no reason to post it all here -.-

[Grimstar]

And on a side note, I think this is toooooooootally ridiculous. I can understand shipping the game out early to make sure errors in shipment don't delay people's acquisition of the games, but did they really expect shipping it out two weeks early wouldn't result in people getting the game early, too? And even then, was it reeeeeeeally necessary for them to fucking fly a representative out to these places to take action? This is a kid's game, guys. Chill the fuck out. This is some straight-up stalker shit, tracking down who people posting on the internet are so they can fuck these Mom 'n Pop shops in the ass.

Agreed. On top of that, I'm pretty sure there's nothing the game company could legally do if you legally bought the game from a store. It's entirely the stores fault, not the buyer. So that's sum boolshiyat.

[Jackie Chandler]

Agreed. On top of that, I'm pretty sure there's nothing the game company could legally do if you legally bought the game from a store. It's entirely the stores fault, not the buyer. So that's sum boolshiyat.

From my understanding, it's the store that gets in trouble because they technically didn't "legally" sell it, since breaking street date is illegal. It's still silly that it's such a big deal, though. I mean, do we all really feel so self-entitled to play games/watch movies/etc. for the first time on the exact same day? Would we really be so jealous that some people play games before us so early if the laws surrounding street dates weren't so strict and heavy? I don't think so. Hell, look at Europe. Online retailers have been known to ship games so that they arrive at people's houses before the street date, just so ensure they have their games BY the release date. And is it a big deal there? Not that I'm aware of. You know, not that Europe is the type of gaming model we should be striving towards, but that's besides the point. :P

[AlexSanteria]

So this is kinda the thing. It's a dumb kids game to us, but to Nintendo this is a multi-million dollar franchise. Also it's Nintendo, the friend codes Nintendo, the mini-disc Nintendo, the we're gonna run ad revenue on Let's Play Nintendo. When a store sells a game early, it's not so much as the game isn't legal, but they've broken contract with Nintendo saying that they will basically sell the game when Nintendo says they can start selling it. This for a game store usually means Nintendo withholding copies until either launch day or after to make sure that the game is sold on time. For someone like GameStop this is a big deal, and usually that entire store gets restaffed as a counter measure. For a local game store that is a death sentence especially if they are trying to legitimately compete with big box dealers. Just keep in mind that while the methods some people go to are a bit extreme, the people who bought the stock of games did sign an agreement and by breaking that they do so knowing the consequences.